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Starting the Newcastle Diet...

360 replies

MrsWooster · 19/05/2017 11:45

Started yesterday after breakfast at 105.2kg. I've got a hba1c test today to track it.
So far so Good! Im using exante products as meal replacement and the almond vanilla shake was ok- quite marzipan y. The veg stir fry mixed with the laksa soup mix would have been OK if I'd added a LOT more garlic, chili and ginger. This morning's cherry berry shake was properly nasty- like thick old skool cough mixture. Live and learn.
Any hot tips, companions, advice are welcome.
Wish me luck.

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MrsWooster · 31/07/2017 08:15

93.7kg
Rubbish.
I'm not eating much but I'm eating the wrong stuff. Stranger to the toilet too. Come on, get a grip.

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Evewasinnocent · 31/07/2017 09:04

Find the right stuff ... and carry on! My inulin?(?) has arrived - no idea what to do with it!

MrsWooster · 31/07/2017 14:15

I sprinkle it into stuff - cereal in the good old days, shakes now or in soup or anything really. It will generally dissolve, tho can form a gloopy lump. It tastes a bit sweet but not so much that it will alter flavours significantly. Enjoy world shattering trumps!

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Evewasinnocent · 31/07/2017 19:47

Ooh - can't wait!

MrsWooster · 01/08/2017 09:03

92.8kg
More by good luck than good judgement. Watching the stats has been like watching a slow motion car crash, with the same helplessness. Ridiculous, since every part of this is under my control..but it doesn't feel like it. Over the last week or so, I've experienced a total inertia: I baked flapjacks for the dc and then just ate them as though it was inevitable and then almost binge ate them until they were gone as there was no option of moderating myself or, gods forbid, not eating them at all. I can't find the words to properly describe the combination of sabotage, helplessness, resentment and defiance that has been around. Hopefully the lucky loss today might jump me out of it a bit?

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 01/08/2017 10:15

Would it help at all to look at today as a new day or start? I think it can be really easy to get stuck in that sabotage mindset once you are in it rather than just put it behind you.

And look how far you have come since you started.

MrsWooster · 01/08/2017 20:48

You're right Rafa. I have to restart every day. It is such a strange (yet horribly familiar) feeling, being in this almost disassociative state from everything that is important and has been so hard-won...

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MrsWooster · 02/08/2017 08:46

92.4kg.
Steady away.

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MrsWooster · 04/08/2017 09:46

Lost yesterday's post. Strange.
94.2kg today.

Car crashtime again. Eating peanut butter off the spoon is killing me. Shakey breakfast, pb spoons, veg stirfry, pb spoons, shakey breakfast, pb spoons, veg soup, pb spoons... I must have done nearly a jar in 2 days so over 1000 extra cals. Stupid stupid stupid.

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MrsWooster · 04/08/2017 22:00

And lo, in the midst of the slough of despond, did come a great light: hba1c results back fro m the doctors aaaaaaaaaannnnddddd.... 39. Whoop whoop!

Slightly now regret spending the day eating choco liebniz. I shall think about it tomorrow.

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MrsWooster · 05/08/2017 10:02

93.6kg
Got to try; now that I have achieved the medical bit, I HAVE to persevere with the rest of the more 'aesthetic' Weight loss bit, with its very different health implications.

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Evewasinnocent · 05/08/2017 10:43

Hey great news on the results and long may you persevere!

CiderwithBuda · 05/08/2017 11:02

Hi MrsWooster.

Well done on what you have achieved so far. I read your thread just after you started and it just popped up again this morning so I have read with interest. I've been planning on starting on and off for over a year but can never quite bring myself to do it. I have the Blood Sugar book and the recipe book and I even joined the forum.

I'm not trying to put you off what you are doing so please don't think that! However - what you are currently going through with binging and the disassociative state is your brain basically telling your body that there is a famine. So it's hanging on to fat and triggering you to want more food. As it's starving. I wonder if you could trick your brain or over rule it by eating more nutritious calories. Make your 800 calories count. I know th shakes are easy but you need nutrients. Could you follow the Michael Mosley plan of 800 calls of low carb Mediterranean food and see if that is easier?

I would worry that as soon as you decide to finish what you are doing that you will binge and put it all back on. You need to eat real food for the rest of your life. Maybe now would be a good time to give your body proper healthy nutritious foods.

MrsWooster · 05/08/2017 21:24

Thanks, Cider, I think you are right; the physiological stuff, mixed with the psychological self sabotagey stuff is a potent brew... definitely time to move towards the MM healthy plan, if not take it up completely. The doubt stem from my worry that a lifetime of self delusion over portion size and food 'not counting' etc will mean over eating unless I am on the VERY prescriptive shakey diet which I am also perfectly capable of fucking up, as the thread shows

Half way time: some shakes, more and better food, less peanut butter.

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MrsWooster · 06/08/2017 10:05

94.1kg
I've told friends about this now so hopefully shame will encourage me to focus... more likely my bloody minded streak will mean I am 30 stone by Christmas. Did try the nourishing myself this morning with a slice of burgen toast with pb after breakfast instead of a sneaky slice of soreen and all the dc's left over crusts. Is 50 too late for maturity to kick in?

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MrsWooster · 07/08/2017 09:57

94.3kg
Inexorable, creeping horror

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MrsWooster · 08/08/2017 09:07

93.7kg
After more eating yesterday. Weird. Shakey breakfast, slice of soreen, cottage pie for lunch and too much kfc for tea. Also 5 Thornton chocolates as won at the summer fete tombola. Which were stale. But I ate them anyway. And now the box is open so...

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mando12345 · 08/08/2017 09:14

Mrs woos terms you have done so well! Squirt washing up liquid on them now.

mando12345 · 08/08/2017 09:15

Flipping auto correct obviously Mrs wooster, trying to write quickly!

mando12345 · 08/08/2017 09:25

New to your thread, I have quickly skimmed through and you have done so well.
I was diagnosed prediabetic about 8 years ago and I low carb to get a normal hba1c but it is hard.
I normalise my blood sugar by low carbing so if I was to comfort eat it would be on unsweetened peanut butter so something fatty not carby and that really does limit what you eat, honestly, you feel sick and full up! Whereas if it was biscuits/cakes I can put away a whole cake.

CiderwithBuda · 08/08/2017 13:36

Don't blame yourself . It's not your fault. Do some research into set point weight. Sadly your body is trying to get back to its 'set point'. Which we make higher by constantly dieting!

MrsWooster · 08/08/2017 18:37

Cider that is an interesting thing! It chimes with my experience that I have always pinged back to within a fairly close range of weights... not sure about the 'not my fault' bit; I have spent a LOT of time over the years more or less consciously thinking it's not my fault and ultimately this have given a sort of fatalistic acceptance of the chunky status quo. I feel this a bit at the moment too, that the weight (and probably the diabetes) will creep back and there's nothing I can do. I am determined that there is and that I can control this. The quick bit of reading I have done says the set point is strong but can't 'win' over healthy-calories-in v sensible-exercise-calories-out. As you suggested in your first post, healthy eating and nourishing myself MUST work, especially if I up the exercise a bit.
Mando brilliant idea but ds would murder me and I just ate three more! I will unleash the dc and dp onto them tomorrow and that will solve the problem in the manner of a swarm of locusts going over a farm. Which reminds me, I MUST get hold of the 'Little House on the Prairie' books for dc!

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MrsWooster · 09/08/2017 16:12

94.3kg
Trying food... 1 protein weetabix plus mixed seeds and a slice of burger toast and pb, salad with chicken bacon and avocado salad for lunch and veg soup for tea. Lunch was prob high calorie as it was at a cafe but all the roughage should've but hasn't helped with The Other Matter... I am currently back on the liver salts so with one thing and another things MUST move somehow. If I can lay off the Thorntons, I might even lose some more weight.

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Evewasinnocent · 09/08/2017 20:18

You weren't joking about the inulin! I used it rather than any stevia in Mt Wong's crumble recipe - delicious - but decidedly noisy!

Evewasinnocent · 09/08/2017 20:18

Mr not Mt!