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Starting the Newcastle Diet...

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MrsWooster · 19/05/2017 11:45

Started yesterday after breakfast at 105.2kg. I've got a hba1c test today to track it.
So far so Good! Im using exante products as meal replacement and the almond vanilla shake was ok- quite marzipan y. The veg stir fry mixed with the laksa soup mix would have been OK if I'd added a LOT more garlic, chili and ginger. This morning's cherry berry shake was properly nasty- like thick old skool cough mixture. Live and learn.
Any hot tips, companions, advice are welcome.
Wish me luck.

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MrsWooster · 10/08/2017 20:27

94.6kg
So can I use it instead of sugar in recipes..?! That's brilliant as, with aalso using almond flour, it suggests that cake is within a low carb, slightly lower calorie achievable zone!
Still resolutely plateau'd which is, frankly, tedious. Each day I think I'll have a fast day to get Things back on track and then decide on an alternate strategy which, coincidentally, involves eating much, much more. As I write it down, i think I may be seeing the problem...

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MrsWooster · 11/08/2017 09:16

94.6kg
Blah blah blah

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MrsWooster · 12/08/2017 10:48

93.6kg
So, plentiful consumption of vegetables quite literally trumps eating well over a kilo of cake. Good to know.

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Evewasinnocent · 12/08/2017 12:44

I only use almond flour for baking and have been using (very small amount - think dessert spoon) of molasses. Thought I'd try the inulin in the crumble and it seemed to work well. Good to be able to have your cake and eat it!

Buxtonstill · 13/08/2017 09:03

I use stevia as a sweetener.

MrsWooster · 13/08/2017 10:41

92.8kg
Steady.... could be the inulin, could be fewer snacks, could be more veg, could be that the Thorntons have run out.

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MrsWooster · 14/08/2017 09:34

92.7kg
And I had no tea last night- so tired I went to bed with the kids. Humph. Keep going with lots of water and fewer snacks...

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MrsWooster · 15/08/2017 15:48

92.5kg
Lots of water, and i went to the vit'nry today, apropos of something else, and i can reduce the metformin from 1500mg to 1000mg (slowrelease) each day and test the hba1c again in 3 months. Assuming all continues well, then down to 500mg for another 3 months and then I'll be off all diabetes meds. Hurrah, etc.

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MrsWooster · 17/08/2017 11:49

92.6kg
Was a kilo lower yesterday... either my diet or my scales are fucked. Didn't eat a lot yesterday but about 50% of it was toffee, so maybe that has something to do with it...

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MrsWooster · 18/08/2017 10:48

93.5kg
Damn you, belated giant poo. A day of weetabix, seeds, salad, veg soup and a delicious chocolate ice cream all still in situ at weigh in time. An hour later and I have to be tethered to the ground like Mrs Twit to avoid floating away. Unless it's three days of reduced metformin dose, in which case I am royally shafted.

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MrsWooster · 21/08/2017 17:44

93.0kg
Despite a couple of days of wanton indulgence during a friend's visit. Result!

Metformin reduction doesn't seem to make a lot of difference; maybe a bit of dizziness but that's par for the course with me.
Haven't had a shake for a while now: weetabix, seeds and inulin parp for breakfast, trying to keep to plenty of veg, protein, lowish carbs (not counting cake and biscuit frenzies during visits). As i write it, though, I can see that this is the maintenance diet! I need to tighten up if I want to get this last 7+ kilos off. No point doing two thirds of a job...

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MrsWooster · 25/08/2017 11:40

94.6kg
Shitfuckbuggerdamnwank. Looks like a brief camping holiday consisting of chips, pasta and toasted marshmallows is not conducive to a healthy bmi. Back on the path of righteousness as soon as I finish this rice crispie crunch.

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MrsWooster · 26/08/2017 09:55

94.5kg.
Weetabix, burgen toast with peanut butter, carrot soup, veg soup. Should be perfect but... couple of handfuls of peanuts and 4 bourbon with a cup of tea, probably a pointless 400 cals, snafu'd it. Having said which, I suppose it is unrealistic to keep expecting "single figure" drops - ie a kilo at a time at this stage. Time to tighten up again and grind away the last kilos.

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MrsWooster · 26/08/2017 21:37

May have overtightened it and stripped the thread... succumbed to a handful of Revels whilst watching the Emoji Movie with the dc. Hopefully used the calories up by laughing, contrary to expectation.

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MrsWooster · 27/08/2017 10:11

93.8kg
Laughter is the best medicine, it would appear.
Weetabix and toast, McDonalds salad, and veg soup, the revels and a bit - maybe 4 small squares - of GB chocolate so I call that a win.

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CiderwithBuda · 27/08/2017 10:43

Could you dump the Weetabix? Maybe have a couple of hard boiled eggs? Carbs are not our friends!

lynmilne65 · 27/08/2017 14:35

Dear God !!

MrsWooster · 27/08/2017 22:28

That's always been my instinct cider, but I am focussing on calories-in at the moment, with a burgeoning healthy respect for the power of roughage! I will tweak it all again, I hope.
Are you ok, Lyn..?!

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Buxtonstill · 28/08/2017 09:26

There are 50grams of carbs in 2 weetabix!

MrsWooster · 28/08/2017 19:10

I only have one! Seeds with it, inulin and full fat milk. Could be worse.
93.7kg today, although I ate bugger all yesterday. Busy day today, with no extraneous grub (so far) so maybe more loss...?

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MrsWooster · 29/08/2017 08:43

94.6kg
Pretty fucking annoying; breakfast; chicken fillets, albeit in breadcrumbs, with very few peas for dinner, and veg stir fry for tea. Can't add to more than 1000 calories and the fitness app says i used over 2000 cals as I was on my feet all day, clearing out the hellhole garage. I need to remember to look at the long game...

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MrsWooster · 30/08/2017 09:17

95.7kg
To quote Abney, this is Not Very Good. Went a bit bonkers yesterday - feeling miserable and petulant. Not to the extent of putting a kilo, mind. More and better trips to the loo called for.

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BitOutOfPractice · 30/08/2017 09:30

11kg list! Wow! You're doing so so well. I'm going to read back now

CiderwithBuda · 30/08/2017 09:35

You are not eating enough and your body is frantically hanging on to what it has as it is in famine mode. I'm sorry - I know it's not what you want to hear. But maybe this is now not working for you.

I bought the BSD book and cook book and was planning on doing it but following it properly with low carb Mediterranean food as Michael Mosley suggest but I was worried about how sustainable it was. Easy to lose weight on so few calories yes but our bodies/brains are clever things and they don't want to starve. They need nourishment. So they hang on to the fat because they NEED fuel. 800 cals a day is starvation rations and your body will over ride your wishes to lose. It needs nourishment.

If you really want to carry on doing the 800 calls can you do the low carb Mediterranean plan and see if eating more quality healthy food helps.

Or you might have to accept that you have come to the end with this.

MrsWooster · 31/08/2017 09:11

94.2kg
By dint of just weetabix and seeds for breakfast, minimal amount of Bolognese sauce and broccoli (with a handful of wholewheat penne because they were there...) and.... falling asleep at 4.30 and not getting up til today. Not completely practical as a long term solution.
I have been reading about starvation mode and I can see some logic in it, in terms of metabolism slowing down in response to limiting calories, but not to the extent of overriding calories-in-calories-out. I need to up the ante on the exercise to encourage my metabolism; to eat healthy, HIGH FIBRE and lowishcarb foods because I know that carbs don't particularly agree with me; and, crucially, stop fooling myself that I will lose weight if I have a couple of biscuits or handfuls of peanuts when I know perfectly well that this adds 3-400 calories which is plenty to maintain or, in conjunction with too little fibre, increase weight.
More and more, I think there aren't any magic tricks here. As Prof Taylor said about the diabetes part, it's not magically due to shakes or anything else, it is just reducing the fat by fair means or foul until the personal trigger point is reached. In terms of weight loss I need to apply common sense and roughage and, in all senses of the phrase, move my arse.

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