Slowly but surely, the truth is emerging.

[Chrissykabel]

In a US interview with Bill Maher, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has just nuked the narrative.

“If you look at the Pfizer vaccine studies, the people who got the vaccine had a 23 percent HIGHER death rate from all causes.”

Bill Maher panics.
“But that could be the disease itself…”

Kennedy ends it.
“Then the vaccine doesn’t WORK, does it?”

That’s it. Game over.

If a vaccine doesn’t reduce overall deaths, it failed.
If deaths go UP, it’s not protection. It’s harm.

They censored doctors.
They buried data.
They bullied the public.

Now the truth is leaking out anyway. We have all been gaslighted on an industrial scale.

OP I worry for people like you. I’m glad I don’t know you

Wrong!

Educate yourself before you make statements as fact!

I am not an anti vaxxer ( I’ve had 4 - all Pfizer, 3 in Copenhagen and 1 in Uk) however I wouldn’t have any more as I developed awful neurological stuff post 4th vaccine - lasted 8 to 10 months and eventually stopped - buzzing in fingers, buzzing in legs, atrocious back of head headaches, significant weakness on one leg , dizziness /spaceiness. Gradually and with a lot of work and beta blockers initially it went away . The thing is it could just be coincidence , but certainly timing wise it didn’t seem like it . To me though the point of a ‘vaccine’ is you don’t get it - my H has had covid 3 times since having them that he knows of and tested for so it clearly doesn’t stop it . However we certainly haven’t been having the same numbers die of it since vaccines came in so clearly there must be some benefit at some level. I just feel that for some people ( and all ages) it can cause issues and it’s random who will have issues with it . It’s a fine line though and certainly I think if like me you had a bad reaction you shouldn’t have more. I don’t hold however with the conspiracy theory all about control/killing people off etc - I think it was a worldwide issue, a lot of panic and it was rushed out as a panacea , when it wasn’t. I do think however it was initially a man made germ warfare thing that escaped and China was trying to keep it under wraps.

Sorry, facts are facts, whether you like them or not.

And you’re so wise and enlightened listening to anything RFK Jnr says? I don’t think so.
As soon a I saw the title of the thread I knew it would be an anti vaccine conspiracy theory.
Yawn, how predictable.

@Chrissykabel ok, I tried to respond in good faith as I do think its important people fell able to question and challenge but youre not interested in that.

Ill simplify the word salad - I read the journal you linked. It says repeatedly 'suspected', 'perhaps', 'one hypothesis' without offering a shred of credible evidence and in fact admits there is no proof of anything. You claim we are the ones with our heads in the sand when you are blindly bowing to 'papers' that don't actually contain any science or any research at all and admit that everything in the article is a guess.

Smallpox was almost eradicated through better sanitation, living conditions, diet, healthcare etc. BEFORE the vaccine was introduced.

So in places where these improvements don't apply (there are plenty of places with poor sanitation and health measures), why isn't smallpox still present today?

Edited to put in quote!

Kennedy doesn't 'end' anything by saying that the vaccine doesn't work. Anti vax bollocks.

What did they die of? Covid or something they already had? Were they generally healthy ?

you know the old adage - torture numbers enough and they will admit to anything……

@Chrissykabeland what does RFK Jnr know about facts? Or any member of Trump’s government?
They know plenty about lying.

So does it or do you just believe it does?

Oh Chrissykabel if only we could have rfk instead of Wes Streeting...this is British sarcasm in case you misunderstand me.

Thank you for this belly laugh.

I totally agree, but to be facts they have to be right…

Do you have a comprehension issue?

You mean like Faucci lied about the lab leak, and Joe Biden lied when he said multiple times "if you get the vaccine, you won't get Covid". Or do Democrat lies not matter in your book?

Oh honestly...... having nearly died from flu (a few times) and measles in my long life, I will happily opt for the vaccine what ever that halfwit says

So you got the flu vaccines but still nearly died of flu (a few times)? Hmmmm

OH gosh people not following you like sheep - so they must have their heads in the sand...

So.... If big pharma is trying to control us all, what is their plan around weight loss jabs?

Surely there must be a conspiracy there too?

(I don't think big pharma are saints, btw)

Do you mean you have seen and examined the source data?

Or do you mean you saw a rumour written on a toilet wall, or (less reliably) on a clickbait web page?

Show us your evidence.

I've been having a chuckle at your posts so far OP but that is just downright offensive. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Bet OP also thinks the earth is flat and we are being poisoned by chemtrails.

Their plan with weight loss jabs is to keep people hooked on them, for life.

Kerrching!!!

Except you are not providing evidence that they are facts.

I am not going to waste time arguing with you, because even if I could flat out prove beyond any doubt that vaccines improve our health you wouldn't believe me.

I prefer to do better things with my day.

I do hope this thread entertains you because otherwise you are going to get into heated arguments that go nowhere and frustrate you. That would probably give me huge anxiety and I don't wish that for you.

I also hope that if someone you love died or was severely injured by Covid, the Covid vaccine or any other disease or vaccine, particularly a common childhood illness, that you find peace. Fighting this battle doesn't make it better. It just upsets you.

I'm old enough to remember polio being a big fear for parents. Can't remember the last time I heard of a child dying of polio/being inan iron king because of polio or with calipers. Strange how that changed so fast and coinciding with the introduction of vaccines. I wonder how RFK or the OP explains it, I'd be fascinated to know.

There's also only one of mine got whooping cough, the one who couldn't have the vaccination. All these amazing coincidences.