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Slowly but surely, the truth is emerging.

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Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:19

In a US interview with Bill Maher, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has just nuked the narrative.

“If you look at the Pfizer vaccine studies, the people who got the vaccine had a 23 percent HIGHER death rate from all causes.”

Bill Maher panics.
“But that could be the disease itself…”

Kennedy ends it.
“Then the vaccine doesn’t WORK, does it?”

That’s it. Game over.

If a vaccine doesn’t reduce overall deaths, it failed.
If deaths go UP, it’s not protection. It’s harm.

They censored doctors.
They buried data.
They bullied the public.

Now the truth is leaking out anyway. We have all been gaslighted on an industrial scale.

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luckylavender · 14/01/2026 10:51

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:25

The usual 'head in the sand' crowd out in force today I see.

Hardly. Many of have known that RFK was an idiot for a long time.

Shmee1988 · 14/01/2026 10:51

I agree with you OP 100%. The covid vaccine wad absolutely rubbish and I have no idea ehy anyone with a brain cell would allow themselves to be injected with it

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 10:52

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:49

So you believe that his war on ultra-processed food is unfounded? And his recommendations for a healthy diet consisting of more whole foods (meat, dairy, vegetables), and less refined grains, sugar and seed oils is bunkum do you?

I applaud any advocacy for healthy food (like me!), but that doesn't make the advocate a scientific expert.

You really wouldn't want my advice on epidemiology.

Couldyounot · 14/01/2026 10:52

Oh, you're a fan of the brain worms guy who doesn't believe in vaccinations. Lord love you.

RedTagAlan · 14/01/2026 10:52

Thanks for that link.

What I find interesting in all these conspiracy claims is that the Chinese Sino Vax and Russian Sputnik are never mentioned.

Sure, I get it that they were "dead virus" vaccinations and not RNA. But they never mention the studies that show they were less effective than the RNA, and that more people died of Covid.

China was desperate to develop an RNA vax, but they never managed it for covid. They did claim it later for Monkey Pox though.

But Sinovax etc was shown to reduce covid deaths. Yet some folk still claim Pfizer did not prevent any. Even though Pfizer was shown to be better.

Deadringer · 14/01/2026 10:53

Fruitbat1954 · 14/01/2026 10:47

I do find it strange there were no flu deaths in the covid period and still dont no one person that died of covid, very odd 🤔

Lucky you, i lost several people to covid.

Hoolahoophop · 14/01/2026 10:53

I thought the main reason for the vaccine was not to prevent the individual who had the vaccine from dying. But to reduce the amount of virus in circulation. Thereby reducing the overall deaths as fewer cases means fewer deaths.

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:54

Deadringer · 14/01/2026 10:53

Lucky you, i lost several people to covid.

'With' Covid.

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travailtotravel · 14/01/2026 10:55

Correlation is not causation.

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 10:55

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 10:43

So why did they make the vaccine development open source?

https://radvac.org/

What about the huge amounts of money spent on PPE? Is that a separate conspiracy or the same one?

@Chrissykabel ?

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:56

Hoolahoophop · 14/01/2026 10:53

I thought the main reason for the vaccine was not to prevent the individual who had the vaccine from dying. But to reduce the amount of virus in circulation. Thereby reducing the overall deaths as fewer cases means fewer deaths.

Vaccine didn't prevent transmission, and in fact, if you vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic, virus just mutates faster to adapt, so no scientific basis in this argument what so ever.

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youalright · 14/01/2026 10:56

Op have you thought about therapy to look into why you're still obsessing about covid and vaccines 6 years on. This isn't normal you need to live your life. Living in fear is not good and must be hard for you. Maybe try and get a gp appointment

BlanketyBlankBlank · 14/01/2026 10:56

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:25

The usual 'head in the sand' crowd out in force today I see.

The usual realistic people are out in more force, thank goodness!

RFK 🤣🤣🤣

SailingIntoSunset · 14/01/2026 10:56

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:25

The usual 'head in the sand' crowd out in force today I see.

RFK. 🤣😆🤣🤣🤣

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:56

travailtotravel · 14/01/2026 10:55

Correlation is not causation.

Extra deaths caused by climate change then?

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MyrtleLion · 14/01/2026 10:56

As the abstract says, the truth remains to be established.

Now find a peer-reviewed study that explains it, or one that says deaths were due to the vaccine, or that says the vaccine failed.

Omicron was a very severe form of Covid that killed a lot of people, so it's not surprising of the vaccine was not 100% effective.

I'm still recovering from a nasty bout of flu, despite having had the vaccine. From previous exposure to flu I know it would have been much worse if I hadn't had the vaccine.

I also want to know if you are just concerned about Covid vaccination or whether you think other vaccines are dangerous or ineffective. Vaccines have saved billions of lives worldwide and eradicated some diseases completely and minimised the effects f others.

Posts saying vaccines are dangerous threaten public health as others stop vaccinating children and themselves, weakening herd immunity.

Andouillette · 14/01/2026 10:57

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:39

You lot can throw your toys out of the pram all you like (people often do when they realise they have been taken for fools), but you need to engage with the real world data, like the population level study in Japan, not the lies the mainstream media have spun you.

Sorry, not going to give any value to the opinions of somebody who thinks Captain Brain-Worms is a good source for anything.

BlanketyBlankBlank · 14/01/2026 10:57

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:49

So you believe that his war on ultra-processed food is unfounded? And his recommendations for a healthy diet consisting of more whole foods (meat, dairy, vegetables), and less refined grains, sugar and seed oils is bunkum do you?

Is that you Rob?

ghostyslovesheets · 14/01/2026 10:57

How’s that measles outbreak working out for America?

Coffeeishot · 14/01/2026 10:57

Blueuggboots · 14/01/2026 10:21

If you believe anything RFK says….well…

I mean eh !

RedAndWhiteBlanket · 14/01/2026 10:58

Surely you need to look at who the vaccine was given to first - older people. Who are at more risk of dying from other causes than younger people.

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 10:58

Yes, @MyrtleLion

Was Polio a hoax? Smallpox?

Rosecoffeecup · 14/01/2026 10:58

I want what you are smoking

Grammarninja · 14/01/2026 10:59

Read it. Nothing conclusive in there. It literally says that in the first paragraph. I'd be very willing to believe this if there was some exact science to hang it on. Until then, I'll happily continue to ignore RFK.

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 10:59

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:56

Extra deaths caused by climate change then?

Can you expand on this point, please?

I don't follow.

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