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Slowly but surely, the truth is emerging.

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Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:19

In a US interview with Bill Maher, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has just nuked the narrative.

“If you look at the Pfizer vaccine studies, the people who got the vaccine had a 23 percent HIGHER death rate from all causes.”

Bill Maher panics.
“But that could be the disease itself…”

Kennedy ends it.
“Then the vaccine doesn’t WORK, does it?”

That’s it. Game over.

If a vaccine doesn’t reduce overall deaths, it failed.
If deaths go UP, it’s not protection. It’s harm.

They censored doctors.
They buried data.
They bullied the public.

Now the truth is leaking out anyway. We have all been gaslighted on an industrial scale.

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BlanketyBlankBlank · 14/01/2026 11:17

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:15

So you got the flu vaccines but still nearly died of flu (a few times)? Hmmmm

The nuance is in the wording …. nearly.

Without the vaccine maybe the PP would not be posting?

TreeDudette · 14/01/2026 11:18

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:30

No, I believe the data takes this into account, so not at all relevant.

Have you read the study report? When you say you believe the data takes this into account do you know that? Have you reviewed the data or are you just assuming?

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 11:18

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:17

Their plan with weight loss jabs is to keep people hooked on them, for life.

Kerrching!!!

But that is capitalism, not government conspiracy.

Surely there must be a conspiracy?

Thanks for responding, btw. Can you respond to some of my other questions, or are you only answering the easy ones?

GentleSheep · 14/01/2026 11:18

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:14

You mean like Faucci lied about the lab leak, and Joe Biden lied when he said multiple times "if you get the vaccine, you won't get Covid". Or do Democrat lies not matter in your book?

There was no 'lab leak'. There is simply no evidence for it. Show me the proof.

BlanketyBlankBlank · 14/01/2026 11:19

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:17

Their plan with weight loss jabs is to keep people hooked on them, for life.

Kerrching!!!

But it’s not!

Why are you commenting on something you’re so clearly unenlightened about?

Did RFK tell you that as well?

Shartly · 14/01/2026 11:19

Ah yes, because RFK Jr. is a bastion of truth, and a fountain of knowledge on medical subjects. I think his cousin Tatiana Schlossberg said it best in the blog post she wrote in November before she died, when she pointed out that he was given the job ‘against all logic and common sense’, despite never having worked in medicine, health, or even the government. I worry for anyone who believes a word he says.

PigletJohn · 14/01/2026 11:19

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:11

Sorry, facts are facts, whether you like them or not.

And unsubstantiated rumours, are unsubstantiated rumours.

Which is what you're spreading,

PluckyChancer · 14/01/2026 11:19

Tell me your postgrad science credentials and I might listen. 🤷🏻‍♀️

My3dahliasarebloominlovely · 14/01/2026 11:20

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:15

So you got the flu vaccines but still nearly died of flu (a few times)? Hmmmm

Wow......
Hmmm yourself.

arethereanyleftatall · 14/01/2026 11:20

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:37

No, but there was an agenda to make money (vested interests) and increase control and compliance. Think about it, if health was our politicians concern during lockdown, why did they close the gyms but allow McDonalds to stay open throughout?

Eh? Gyms make money too! They’re businesses same as McDonald’s. People need food, they don’t need gyms. And if memory serves, it was the drive thrus they kept open. So everyone was in their own car. Kinda not the same as a gym where your treadmill puts you out in the open next to a stranger. If this is genuinely your level of thought, I would kindly suggest you step away.

Livelaughlurgy · 14/01/2026 11:21

I imagine the death rate of people who have chemo is greater than the death rate of those who don't.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 14/01/2026 11:22

Oh dear 😂

BlanketyBlankBlank · 14/01/2026 11:22

arethereanyleftatall · 14/01/2026 11:20

Eh? Gyms make money too! They’re businesses same as McDonald’s. People need food, they don’t need gyms. And if memory serves, it was the drive thrus they kept open. So everyone was in their own car. Kinda not the same as a gym where your treadmill puts you out in the open next to a stranger. If this is genuinely your level of thought, I would kindly suggest you step away.

Maybe OP was referring to those drive thru gyms, that should’ve stayed open!

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:22

MyrtleLion · 14/01/2026 11:17

Except you are not providing evidence that they are facts.

I am not going to waste time arguing with you, because even if I could flat out prove beyond any doubt that vaccines improve our health you wouldn't believe me.

I prefer to do better things with my day.

I do hope this thread entertains you because otherwise you are going to get into heated arguments that go nowhere and frustrate you. That would probably give me huge anxiety and I don't wish that for you.

I also hope that if someone you love died or was severely injured by Covid, the Covid vaccine or any other disease or vaccine, particularly a common childhood illness, that you find peace. Fighting this battle doesn't make it better. It just upsets you.

From the hundreds of people I know, I don't know anyone who died or was hospitalised by (or with) Covid. Strange, for a dreadful global pandemic eh?

I now a few who had been vaccinated who had a hard time with Covid though (fit young people, not old people). And I know of at least 5 who had an adverse event from their vaccine, and someone of 55 who died suddenly from an unexplained heart attack within 2 weeks of getting theirs. Coincidence of course ;)

My family, who have by enlarge not been vaccinated, all had very mild Covid symptoms. No sudden deaths, cancers, or unusual side effects either. Very strange.

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HelenaWaiting · 14/01/2026 11:23

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:49

So you believe that his war on ultra-processed food is unfounded? And his recommendations for a healthy diet consisting of more whole foods (meat, dairy, vegetables), and less refined grains, sugar and seed oils is bunkum do you?

All that is good advice but it is hardly original. Unless you were going through life believing that a diet of fast food and cream cakes was the healthiest diet, it's difficult to see how you could give Captain Brain-Worm any credit for this information.

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 11:23

Livelaughlurgy · 14/01/2026 11:21

I imagine the death rate of people who have chemo is greater than the death rate of those who don't.

Ah, that must be another conspiracy.

Because why would 'they' just conspire about COVID?

Perhaps all cancer is a big scam, none of it exists, and it is just a very expensive and complicated way to take people out?

(sarcasm)

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:24

BlanketyBlankBlank · 14/01/2026 11:17

The nuance is in the wording …. nearly.

Without the vaccine maybe the PP would not be posting?

Ahhh, that old chestnut. Classic case of delusional thinking.

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pimplebum · 14/01/2026 11:25

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:25

The usual 'head in the sand' crowd out in force today I see.

No a lot of us are using or critical brains

do you seriously expect a vaccine to cure everyone ?? That’s statistically impossible

every year there are a few deaths from all vaccines - does not mean we should not vaccinate

if it turns out that one vaccine was a bit crap and people still died , that’s sad and unfortunate for them , I am still taking the vaccine and vaccines in general

LISTEN to SENSIBLE Scientists not hot headed nutters with wonky agendas

KateShugakIsALegend · 14/01/2026 11:25

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:22

From the hundreds of people I know, I don't know anyone who died or was hospitalised by (or with) Covid. Strange, for a dreadful global pandemic eh?

I now a few who had been vaccinated who had a hard time with Covid though (fit young people, not old people). And I know of at least 5 who had an adverse event from their vaccine, and someone of 55 who died suddenly from an unexplained heart attack within 2 weeks of getting theirs. Coincidence of course ;)

My family, who have by enlarge not been vaccinated, all had very mild Covid symptoms. No sudden deaths, cancers, or unusual side effects either. Very strange.

And with that sample size, how could you possibly be wrong?

How could scientific papers looking at thousands and thousands of data points be better than your anecdotes.

I am now convinced, thank you.

BlanketyBlankBlank · 14/01/2026 11:25

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 11:22

From the hundreds of people I know, I don't know anyone who died or was hospitalised by (or with) Covid. Strange, for a dreadful global pandemic eh?

I now a few who had been vaccinated who had a hard time with Covid though (fit young people, not old people). And I know of at least 5 who had an adverse event from their vaccine, and someone of 55 who died suddenly from an unexplained heart attack within 2 weeks of getting theirs. Coincidence of course ;)

My family, who have by enlarge not been vaccinated, all had very mild Covid symptoms. No sudden deaths, cancers, or unusual side effects either. Very strange.

You’ve got a very different experience to me!

How do you know “hundreds” of people and all their medical history 🤔

MikeRafone · 14/01/2026 11:25

PluckyChancer · 14/01/2026 11:19

Tell me your postgrad science credentials and I might listen. 🤷🏻‍♀️

considering the Op doesn't understand the nature of smallpox and how it spreads - its doubtful she has a biology GCSE

TreeDudette · 14/01/2026 11:27

Have you read the abstract? It says that more people than expected died over Covid that one would expect given the vaccination rate and more studies are needed to understand why but that mRNA vaccines could potentially be a contributing factor. Additionally there was lockdown, job losses, restrictions on accessing primary care physicians and hospitals, increased mental health issues, lack of many support services for vulnerable people... There are lots of additional reasons people died in higher numbers over Covid. The abstracts says more studies are needed to understand why. Did you get the full article and read it?

MyrtleLion · 14/01/2026 11:27

MyrtleLion · 14/01/2026 11:08

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Please show your evidence that this is true.

Here is mine from the BMJ in 1902, demonstrating not only that your claim is fallacious, but also that antivaccinationists (the term mentioned in the article), have been banging on about this for over 120 years and consistently proved wrong time and again.

https://www.bmj.com/content/2/2166/69

I asked ChatGPT to transcribe the text of my link as it is very densely printed.

Transcription

July 5, 1902.
SANITATION OR VACCINATION.
[The British Medical Journal] 69

SANITATION OR VACCINATION.

In endeavouring to explain away the manifold proofs that vaccination prevents small-pox, perhaps no line is now so frequently followed by anti-vaccinationists as that which attributes to sanitation all the good effects of vaccination. Medical men are told that they are ignorant of the real facts, but they are aware that sanitary conditions materially affect health; but when the contention is advanced briefly to tax within prove the worthlessness of the anti-vaccinationist contention.

Sanitation is a term of varied meaning. A man with a clean skin, clean clothes, clean hands, clean breath, pure air, taking proper exercise and proper rest, is a better position to resist disease of any kind, including small-pox, than another man living under the opposite conditions. But the same sanitary measures which are powerful against one disease are not necessarily effective against another. The means which control enteric fever are not at all identical with those which check or greatly diminish the incidence and make and havoc caused by measles and whooping-cough; with the lessons which science has gleaned in the case of diphtheria or diarrhoea. Similar considerations apply to small-pox prevention. That disease is not known to have any special relationship to water supply or milk supply, or sewage, or soil pollution. In so far as overcrowding enables the infection to be carried more readily from individual to individual, the prevention of overcrowding is naturally regarded of value against small-pox; but the disease through which small-pox can be transmitted is so much greater than in the case of typhus, that the same results from prevention of overcrowding cannot be looked for in the two cases, and experience proves that as a matter of fact they have not been obtained. The value of sanitation is so abundantly proved in many directions that it is quite unnecessary for even its antagonists to advocate or record its beneficent effects for the promotion—vaccination would give sanitation the credit for results which are clearly due to vaccination.

Much of what is set down here has already been pointed out in the British Medical Journal or elsewhere, but the disregard of these facts calls for special reference to the one question of sanitation.

Vaccination Without Sanitation.

The City of Glasgow in its experience of small-pox a century ago proved that vaccination in the entire absence of sanitation had an immediate and direct effect in reducing the prevalence of small-pox. The population of Glasgow increased very rapidly from about 1780 onwards. In that year it was 42,832. In 1791 it was 65,578; in 1801 it was 77,385; in 1804 it was 102,000. The area occupied was very small, the people living layer upon layer in high tenement houses closely built together. Reports made in 1818, 1837, 1838, etc., show its sanitary condition to have been extremely bad—perhaps worse than that of any large town in Britain. Before vaccination was practised, in the earlier years due to small-pox in every two deaths from that disease. Under vaccination the deaths were reduced in six years to less than one in thirty-six years to less than one in seventy-six; and in eight years to less than one in ninety-three. In 1814, out of 800 cases, there was not a single death. At the same time overcrowding became no less prevalent and no less insanitary; and there was still quite insufficient small-pox in hospital, and the hospital accommodation for the treatment of ordinary diseases. But as a matter of fact in Glasgow, with sanitation going from bad to worse, with the population increasing as above shown, with measles deaths multiplying and small-pox increasing, vaccination diminished by leaps and bounds.

A similar experience, indeed, is found elsewhere. In pre-vaccination times, small-pox, measles, and whooping-cough were in proportion to all causes of death. When, from about 1800 onwards, all small-pox deaths were included in registers, and the large majority were under seven years of age. Since vaccination began small-pox has in great measure disappeared from childhood, and has transferred itself to later years. Measles and whooping-cough, on the other hand, are still diseases of childhood as they were before. Sanitation cannot possibly explain this difference between small-pox on the one hand and measles and whooping-cough on the other. The practice of vaccination at once gives the necessary explanation.

Small-pox Age-incidence.

Among the vaccinated, small-pox, as has just been said, has largely transferred itself from childhood to later life; but among the unvaccinated it still largely prevails among children, though owing to the comparative infrequency of vaccination in fairly vaccinated populations, the unvaccinated are made, as it were, so rarely, and vaccination has had an indirect control of small-pox among the unvaccinated, finding no large percentage of its victims among children, while in the vaccinated it attacks a much less proportion of children than of adults.

Small-pox Age-incidence in Scotland.

It has been suggested that sanitation has a special beneficial effect on the young, and that would account for the altered age-incidence of small-pox in a vaccinated population. But that cannot be the case, owing to the ages at which the cough has not been altered, and the measles and whooping-cough have not been altered, and the measles and whooping-cough have not been altered. This is clearly shown in the statistics of the Edinburgh epidemic of 1871. The population of Edinburgh was 180,000, and the deaths from small-pox during that epidemic were 512. Of these, 386 were unvaccinated, 84 vaccinated, and 42 doubtful. Of the unvaccinated 216 were under five years of age, 43 between five and ten, 29 between ten and fifteen, 39 between fifteen and twenty-five, 37 between twenty-five and forty-five, 22 over forty-five. Of the vaccinated, only 5 were under five years of age, 9 between five and ten, 7 between ten and fifteen, 17 between fifteen and twenty-five, 22 between twenty-five and forty-five, 24 over forty-five. Of the doubtful, 3 were under five, 5 between five and ten, 4 between ten and fifteen, 12 between fifteen and twenty-five, 8 between twenty-five and forty-five, 10 over forty-five. These figures show that sanitation cannot explain the altered age-incidence of small-pox, and that vaccination alone accounts for it.

Small-pox—Incidence and Revaccination.

In Germany both vaccination and revaccination are compulsory, and small-pox has greatly diminished, but anti-vaccinationists in this country attribute the diminution to sanitation. In Germany primary vaccination is not compulsory before the age of one year, and in some places not till the age of two. The same has been the result of vaccination in England, where the practice of revaccination has also had a beneficial effect. In Germany the incidence of small-pox death at all ages is much lower than in England, and the proportion of deaths in childhood is very small. In England, where vaccination is not compulsory, and revaccination is not compulsory, small-pox among the unvaccinated is more prevalent.

Small-pox—Age-incidence in Sheffield, Leicester, Warrington, etc.

When small-pox came to Sheffield in 1887–8 the town was well vaccinated as far as primary vaccination was concerned. When it came to Leicester in 1892 vaccination was at a low ebb, and Leicester was almost entirely unvaccinated. But in Sheffield children under ten years old were attacked much less frequently than in Leicester, where vaccination was neglected. In Leicester, out of 361 cases, 236 were in children under ten years of age; in Sheffield, out of 1,277 cases, only 12 were in children under ten years of age. The difference cannot be explained by sanitation, as sanitation in Leicester was not worse than in Sheffield. The difference is entirely due to vaccination. The same result was observed in Warrington, where vaccination was carried out, and in Gloucester, where vaccination was neglected

See Jenner Number of Public Health, May, 1896.

Hiptothisjive · 14/01/2026 11:27

Chrissykabel · 14/01/2026 10:25

The usual 'head in the sand' crowd out in force today I see.

And the usual sensationalist post to suit a narrative based on a man who still thinks that MMR causes autism and doesnt agree with any vaccination. Pot kettle black I’m afraid.