Slowly but surely, the truth is emerging.

[Chrissykabel]

In a US interview with Bill Maher, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has just nuked the narrative.

“If you look at the Pfizer vaccine studies, the people who got the vaccine had a 23 percent HIGHER death rate from all causes.”

Bill Maher panics.
“But that could be the disease itself…”

Kennedy ends it.
“Then the vaccine doesn’t WORK, does it?”

That’s it. Game over.

If a vaccine doesn’t reduce overall deaths, it failed.
If deaths go UP, it’s not protection. It’s harm.

They censored doctors.
They buried data.
They bullied the public.

Now the truth is leaking out anyway. We have all been gaslighted on an industrial scale.

Anti vaxxers are all a bit mad. Pity there isn't a vaccine for that.

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X22001051

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

Smallpox was almost eradicated through better sanitation, living conditions, diet, healthcare etc. BEFORE the vaccine was introduced.

Hey Op, honestly I think its important we question, demand clear research without conflict of interests and properly fund science to ensure things are challenged and corrected. Its great to follow the science and read the journals for ourselves rather than relying on sometimes bias reporting.

I would say this study's findings have been misrepresented. In fact the journal that published it has called on the media to stop misrepresenting it. Excess deaths are basically when there are more deaths than predicted. The study has found a rise in excess deaths but correlation does not equal causation and the article in the synopsis at the very top says they don't know why as there is no reporting on the cause of the excess death. This is a rise in mortality for all causes including car accidents, suicide and conditions where there is absolutely no proven or suspected link with covid or the vaccine.

On its on this study proves nothing. It literally could be there is a rise in road deaths, worse nutrition because of rising food prices causing more heart attacks etc, a rebalancing as people werent catching and dying from other illnesses such as flu.

Research is important and we should now support more as to the cause of extra deaths but to say this proves anything from covid is simply wrong.

There was another study that came out showing a spike of mortality in children after the covid vaccine and again it showed extra deaths not why. When a follow up study looked into the why they found that the spike was due to car and gun deaths that increased after lockdown was over. People are taking terrible things and bending them to their political narrative.

They were well, then they got covid, then they died.
So op, the covid vaccine didn't work, or covid didn't exist, or covid didn't kill people or all of the above?

FFS - you'll be the first in the queue demanding, yelling for chemotherapy / drugs if God forbid, your time comes. Don't post without taking a breath to consider your incredible stupidity.

So your assertion is that no vaccines have ever worked?

McDonald’s wasn’t allowed to stay open throughout. It was shut for months

None of your word salad means that the vaccine was not attributable to a significant portion of excess deaths.

Really - gosh

I wonder what type of people wielded the cars and the guns?

Which sexes and age groups?

I think I could take a good guess.

Perhaps we should focus on what is wrong with those groups of people first, before we come for the scientists.

I don't know why it is so hard for the conspiracy theorists to understand this.
It's the equivalent of saying people who are taking cancer drugs are more likely to die than people not on cancer drugs, and then claiming the cancer drugs kill people

RFK should know better.

Smallpox vaccine was introduced in 1796, long before better sanitation and living conditions. Try again.

She needs therapy 90% of people get a vaccine and carry on living their lives then you have people like op who refuse vaccines (her choice) but will obsess over it spend hours on google everyday and live in fear its just sad really.

Don't come in here with your facts.

(sarcasm :) )

Someone had a different view, takes the time to explain why and you call it “word salad”, you’re not only ridiculous believing anything from RFK, you’re blinkered and rude as well?

Can we discuss the polio vaccine?

Exactly

That post was extremely clear and easy to follow. If you found it so confusing that it came across as 'word salad' to you, then you definitely aren't someone I would listen to when it comes to health advice. Given the horrific measles outbreak in the US as a result of RFK's anti-vax position, and the subsequent needless and entirely preventable deaths of children from measles, it's clear that he is not a reputable authority on health matters either.

Just cos you’re too thick to get it doesn’t make it a word salad, it makes perfect sense.

you, however, not so much

Sure, but then might I suggest you check your history for some nuance as to when it was actually mass introduced.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Please show your evidence that this is true.

Here is mine from the BMJ in 1902, demonstrating not only that your claim is fallacious, but also that antivaccinationists (the term mentioned in the article), have been banging on about this for over 120 years and consistently proved wrong time and again.

https://www.bmj.com/content/2/2166/69

Lol at you recommending nuance.

@Chrissykabel hoping you will respond to some of my questions as I have another day of being ill yawning ahead of me and was hoping for a diversion.

If only there was a vaccine for this rotten germ 😁

And of those 90% of people, there is an increased risk of death of 23%.