Slowly but surely, the truth is emerging.

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In a US interview with Bill Maher, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has just nuked the narrative.

“If you look at the Pfizer vaccine studies, the people who got the vaccine had a 23 percent HIGHER death rate from all causes.”

Bill Maher panics.
“But that could be the disease itself…”

Kennedy ends it.
“Then the vaccine doesn’t WORK, does it?”

That’s it. Game over.

If a vaccine doesn’t reduce overall deaths, it failed.
If deaths go UP, it’s not protection. It’s harm.

They censored doctors.
They buried data.
They bullied the public.

Now the truth is leaking out anyway. We have all been gaslighted on an industrial scale.

I really don’t get this type of post at all.

some people don’t think covid was real or ever serious. So all the deaths, full wards etc were just made up. Ok so they have ver specific tin hats

but assuming you believe it was real, was a risk, caused increased illness and death etc etc…. Then where do you think this all went? Why did it all massively reduce when vaccines were introduced, especially in areas where infections had previously been low so you can’t attribute to herd immunity?
anyway OP. Get a life, genuinely. You’re wasting it

lol.

At least this thread has provided incontrovertible proof of one thing: you really can't reason with stupid.

There are so many platforms now I've lost count and stopped following them. "Dissident" medics' email lists; the interviewees of Dr John Campbell and the scientists and medics who author the peer-reviewed and published papers he features; Peter McCullough's website, papers and materials; Prof Angus Dalgleish's materials. That's just a start.

So lots of people who have been widely and completely discredited then…. Wow

I am not an anti vaxxer, always had my annual flu jab. I had my first AZ jab (batch PV46664) on 27th February 2021 and over the next two to three weeks developed the following - exreme joint pains in knees, elbows, hands (locking thumbs), severe vertigo and balance problems, brain fog and constant anxiety and confusion, constant exhaustion and fatigue, extreme tremors, dry choking/retching attacks, difficulty swallowing. I had a first diagnosis in November 2021 which was reactive arthritis, which totally ignored the majority of my symptoms. In August 2022 the same consultant then diagnosed me with fibromyalgia. I then had an ECG, which was abnormal, showed that I had myocarditis and evidence of myocardial infarction. Around this time I had blackouts, which nobody could explain. In 2023, I asked to be referred to a cardiologist, which did not happen until March 2024, he simply told me to stop driving. I had an implantable loop recorder fitted in July 2024 and it showed that during these blackout episodes were caused by my heart stopping, from 8 seconds to 14 seconds. They then considered that I may need a pacemaker. On October 1st 2024, I had a cardio ct scan in London, fortunately my wife came with me, because on the way home in Victoria station, I had another "episode". I was taken back to the hospital, they downloaded the data from the ILR and my heart had stopped for 25 seconds. On October 7th I had a pacemaker fitted.
Prior to the first AZ vaccine (stupidly I had two more), I was an extremely fit, qualified fitness instructor who could quite easily walk 10 to 15 miles a day, now I am virtually crippled.
I joined a group of fellow vaccine injured, a UK charity called UKCV Family, which has around 3K members. If anyone is interested, then please read page 71 of the official UK Covid Inquiry from May 2024, which outlines the numbers of vaccine injured and deceased. I have also posted a link to the top ten AZ batches and the number of adverse reactions.

https://covid19.public-inquiry.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/23094440/C-19-Inquiry-Mod-4-prelim-22-May-2024-amended.pdf?fbclid=IwY2xjawNHEupleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHhCL3Gsap0ZxSAPowRB-pypRih9laP05GeZMckLa9d2pixnzQvHpj4_TYvMP_aem_AW5PbUHREeigSwRnJCWRSQ

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@oldtiredcyclist

I've always been happy to drink tea, but I notice that in several occasions I have been ill, and it has occurred after I drank tea in the previous week.

Interestingly, you have been ill after having vaccinations.

I think we can agree that this is no coincidence, and the tea must have been the cause.

That is rather insulting to say the least.
I became seriously ill, two to three weeks after the first AZ vaccination. There was absolutely nothing else which could have caused the myriad of symptoms which appeared in that period of time, given the fact that I was previously, extremely fit and had managed to avoid Covid thus far.

Of course there are other things. You didn't live in a sterile container, did you? It's human nature to make these connections but correlation does not equal causation.

"That is rather insulting to say the least."

Not at all. You have no way of knowing how ill I was. Are you trying to suggest that I am wrong in my knowledge of the cause?

That is so disrespectful. Not to mention unbelievably uneducated. Do some reason. Get some facts. Then come back (to apologise).

Jumping in here to say... it is not insulting in the least, it's application of logic.

I was totally fine when covid hit, walking miles etc, never been admitted to hospital in my life.

Then in our first covid lockdown (not in uk), an arm started to have issues, I ignored it them boom, I was sat down and could not stand up. Rush to hospital, Turns out blocked artery, so emergency stent op and 2 weeks in intensive care.

My life literally changed in a flash. And now I have many of the symptoms you describe.

And no vax. This was pre vax, during covid, and none in our house had covid. And I can absolutely be 100% no covid, because do you remember the mass testing in a certain country that was on telly? I was in that country.

No western vax where I am, and I am still not vaxed, the docs said no.

And yet your story of your sudden health issues is near identical to mine. Brain fog check. Tremors check, dizzyness check. And not a vax in sight.

I was drinking a lot of tea at the time though. Maybe that's what caused it.

Did you read any of the links I posted, because they are from official UK government sources. There was no other cause apart from the vaccine, which would cause an extremely fit person, which I was, to become so ill so quickly after having the vaccine.
Can you tell me why I and many, many others became so ill within three weeks of having the first Covid vaccine?
Up to 24/04/2022 there had been the following ADR reports on the yellow card system for AZ batch PV46664 - 6570 injuries and 15 deaths.
Are you saying that none of those happened?
People lie you, who try to minimise vaccine damage or deaths are pretty disgusting.
The phrase you used "correlation does not equal causation", is exactly the one which the KC defending the pharma companies and government used in the Covid Inquiry.

I posted above that I had and have the near exact same symptoms as you, still do as I type this... and you appear to have ignored it.

"The phrase you used "correlation does not equal causation", is exactly the one which the KC defending the pharma companies and government used in the Covid Inquiry"

That's because it's true.

You are mistaken.

Page 71:

"Submissions on behalf of Vaccine Injured and Bereaved UK, Scottish Vaccine Injury Group and UK CV Family by MS MORRIS KC 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 70 MS MORRIS: Thank you, my Lady. My Lady, alongside Mr Bradley and Mr Weaver of counsel, instructed by Mr Wilcox of Hudgell Solicitors, I represent three core participant groups: the Vaccine Injured and Bereaved UK, the Scottish Vaccine Injury Group and the UK CV Family. You have our written submissions and I'm grateful that they have been considered carefully by Counsel to the Inquiry and for the responses provided this morning. We have in turn listened carefully to Mr Keith King's Counsel's submissions this morning and I would like to emphasise a few key points. I will deal with the most practical point first, my Lady, the timetabling of hearings, because for those I represent the delay in substantive oral hearings from July this year to January next year has a significant impact. It may be seen as modest in the Inquiry's timings but it's significant to those I represent. The delays only serve to further exacerbate the feelings of marginalisation within the groups and has caused considerable stress to people who have also already faced significant challenges. There are several significant implications. Members of our groups have serious degenerative conditions and will face deterioration in their health over the next 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 71 six months. Others are still enduring a long wait for treatment that is being denied to them, meaning that their conditions will increasingly impact on their ability to participate and engage. And I ask my Lady to bear in mind that the fact that the hearings will now be in the middle of winter also means that those with respiratory conditions will find travelling difficult or impossible. The delay in the substantive hearings and the establishment of a clear factual narrative around the Covid-19 vaccines maintains a large lacuna in the public understanding within which important questions continue to go unanswered and within which further serious mistrust of government and healthcare institutions may grow. The delay in the Inquiry record...."

What exactly are we looking at ?

It's a submission to the inquiry. I see nothing re evidence or batch numbers. And this bit especially :

"The delay in the substantive hearings and the establishment of a clear factual narrative around the Covid-19 vaccines maintains a large lacuna in the public understanding within which important questions continue to go unanswered and within which further serious mistrust of government and healthcare institutions may grow. The delay in the Inquiry record.... "

It's basically someone saying, can we look at this, because if we don't, "conspiracy" might set in ?

You obviously didn't look at my earlier links to the top ten AZ vaccine damage batches or read page 71 of the Covid Inquiry.

"The delay in the Inquiry recording a clear factual
narrative also undermines its ability to make meaningful
recommendations for change, which we know are important
to you, my Lady. We have impressed on you before the
sheer number of people in the UK likely to have been
injured by the Covid-19 vaccines. As of 10 May 2024 we
understand the Yellow Card system to have received 2,688
reports of fatalities and 486,250 individual reports,
over 300,000 of which were reported as serious."

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AZ batch PV46664

Off the top of your head, how many doses in this batch ?

I just looked it up, so I know. Do you know without looking it up now?

Not a gotcha, genuine question.

Absolutely no idea.

Cool.

Quoting your post above :

"Up to 24/04/2022 there had been the following ADR reports on the yellow card system for AZ batch PV46664 - 6570 injuries and 15 deaths."

So when you said " do your research etc" my first thought was how big is a batch. I looked it up. Link:

FOI23-878response_redacted.pdf (publishing.service.gov.uk)

From that, Batch PV46664 has 1,222,000 doses.

So that's 1.22 million doses in that batch.

That's my research starting point. Get a feel of the statistics.

Next the yellow card. I assume you submitted a yellow card, so you are in that 6570 injuries mentioned?

I am not medical at all, just an Engineer. Just doing my own research as you suggested. UK yellow card site here :

Yellow Card | Making medicines and medical devices safer (mhra.gov.uk)

The first line on that site :

"Anyone can report an issue with a medicine, vaccine, medical device (including software, apps and artificial intelligence), blood product or e-cigarette to the Yellow Card scheme."

So it's totally self reporting, absolutely fine, that is how it should be I reckon.

Yellow cards are self reported, no doctor required. So, from these 6570 injuries , self reported on yellow cards by people who took one of the 1.22 million doses of PV46664, how did you determine how many of them were actually caused by the vax ?

I don't think I can do that bit, cos data. But I assume you have.

So how many of the 6570 yellow card injuries were assigned to the vax by medical doctors ? Hopefully with that info we can continue our research a bit. If possible. Or at least we will be able to do the stats and compare with others.

I would not expect it to be zero by the way.

@oldtiredcyclist

I also got the top ten AZ yellow card reports ( from the inquiry paper) . Statistically these look the same at first glance, but I would really need to cross reference these numbers with batch size on a spreadsheet, to get the PPMs to compare.

Have you done the crunching for that ? What batch had the highest PPMs ?

Batch number reports data.xlsx (publishing.service.gov.uk)

The table on the link above is a terrible way to present data. It should at least have batch size.

Nope. I truly am not

I didn't submit a yellow card ADR report until early 2024, because I didn't know about it, the same as many others on our support group. The latest FoI reports on these batch statistics are dated up to April 2022, nothing later and call me cynical, but I wonder what the reason was for that?
It should be clear to everyone, that the figures of 486,000 ADR's relating to Covid vaccines, mentioned in the May 2024 Covid Inquiry (300,000 of which were serious) prove that the batch report figures are very much on the low side.

Why do you seek to deny that my ill-health was caused by drinking tea?

There is no doubt that I drank tea, and no doubt that I became ill.

Why do you reject my assessment of the cause?