Page 11 | The unvaccinated out socialising.

Whiskyinajar · 2021-12-28T14:09:57+00:00

I know it's unreasonable to expect everyone to stay at home but I'm about to test as a relatives husband has just tested positive. It's now come out that he is unvaccinated ....not sure why. He's told his wife that he doesn't want the vaccine 🙄[hmm] What is annoying me is that he has socialised all over Christmas with family and my parents, many who are elderly with underlying health problems and who can ill afford to get this virus. Everyone now has to test . Thankfully it seems everyone (apart from him) has had both vaccines and a booster. Risks of them catching it are low but not out of the realms of possibility . Just feeling irritated that he's taken the risk of not being vaccinated and then mixed with everyone. No point to this post apart from me letting off steam but grrrrr! So cross.

ichundich · 28/12/2021 21:59

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-59353697

XenoBitch · 28/12/2021 22:02

[quote ichundich]www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-59353697[/quote]
It doesn't say anything about him getting Covid from an unvaccinated patient at all. He was working on a Covid ward... it could have been from anyone, or even somewhere outside of work.
Stop trying to lay blame where there is none.

Againstmachine · 28/12/2021 22:02

My FB is full of photos of positive LFT now.

I'd re-evaluate my friends 😂

Useruseruserusing · 28/12/2021 22:05

Why are people putting photos of tests on Facebook, is it some badge or something, to be proud of

Spotthedog91 · 28/12/2021 22:06

@ichundich my triple vaccinated grandad died from covid after contracting it from my triple vaccinated nan. She caught it from my double vaccinated auntie.

Now I can't tell you where she caught it... Fuck maybe they were unvaccinated.

userxx · 28/12/2021 22:06

@Useruseruserusing

Why are people putting photos of tests on Facebook, is it some badge or something, to be proud of

It's just fucking weird.

Useruseruserusing · 28/12/2021 22:07

How did the doctor know which patient he caught covid off

ichundich · 28/12/2021 22:08

According to various newspaper articles it is thought that he contracted Covid on the ward (ICU) where he was working. 90% of Covid patients in ICU aren't vaccinated. I'd say it's quite likely a non-vaxxer is to blame.

littlebilliie · 28/12/2021 22:09

@cherylshaw

It's madness and listen to the way people talk about each other! I'm disgusted at the divide people are making between vaccinated and unvaccinated

I have lost respect for anyone who is unvaccinated these people are not good citizens. However unpleasant it is to be vaccinated the risk to the CV is real and their banal fantasies about the vaccine is not.

XenoBitch · 28/12/2021 22:11

@ichundich

According to various newspaper articles it is thought that he contracted Covid on the ward (ICU) where he was working. 90% of Covid patients in ICU aren't vaccinated. I'd say it's quite likely a non-vaxxer is to blame.

What was the vaccinated/unvaccinated rate on his particular ward? And does it matter? He caught Covid and sadly died. He could have got it from work, the shops, his own kids. No one knows. Stop trying to use his death to make some sort of point.

cherylshaw · 28/12/2021 22:12

The figure is actually more like 36%

XenoBitch · 28/12/2021 22:13

@Useruseruserusing

Why are people putting photos of tests on Facebook, is it some badge or something, to be proud of

I have no idea. But I see it a lot. I met up with a friend a while ago, and she was showing me the photos of her own LFT from her phone. I don't know why this is a thing now!

sosijrol · 28/12/2021 22:17

@ichundich

According to various newspaper articles it is thought that he contracted Covid on the ward (ICU) where he was working. 90% of Covid patients in ICU aren't vaccinated. I'd say it's quite likely a non-vaxxer is to blame.

Public health wales - as of 2nd December, 76% of covid patients in hospital were double vaccinated. Where do you get 90% figure from? Be interesting to compare.

ichundich · 28/12/2021 22:18

It does matter if he caught it from an unvaccinated person (who tend to have a higher viral load). Even if he didn't, he might not have caught it at all if enough people were vaccinated. You can stick your fingers in your ears all you like; the fact remains that unvaccinated people play a huge part in Covid spreading and mutating and people dying.

QueenOfHiraeth · 28/12/2021 22:18

@Morechocmorechoc

You are just as much a ruck of catching and passing in covid having had the vaccine. Just less likely to get ill. Get your facts straight.

Surely that's not right? The vaccine reduces your risk of catching it and the viral load if you do, both of which reduce your chance of spreading it. www.newscientist.com/article/2294250-how-much-less-likely-are-you-to-spread-covid-19-if-youre-vaccinated/

sherrytrifleforthewin · 28/12/2021 22:18

Oh get over yourself, Ffs. When will 'the vaccinated' get it? This is not that simple, the vaccines are not fit for purpose, they just take the edge off at best and certainly don't stop transmission. I'm not anti vax. I've had mine but just think these ones are crap, have very low expectations.

Useruseruserusing · 28/12/2021 22:19

People post a lot of crap on here like knowing who someone in a newspaper article caught Covid from.

fevdec · 28/12/2021 22:20

Not sure if I'm missing something but what is it to do with an unvaccinated person? So if the doctor caught covid from a vaccinated person he would've been fine?

XenoBitch · 28/12/2021 22:22

@ichundich

It does matter if he caught it from an unvaccinated person (who tend to have a higher viral load). Even if he didn't, he might not have caught it at all if enough people were vaccinated. You can stick your fingers in your ears all you like; the fact remains that unvaccinated people play a huge part in Covid spreading and mutating and people dying.

No, it does not matter. He worked on a Covid ward, where every single patient has Covid. It would be impossible to tell what patient he caught it from. And like I said, he could have caught it from anywhere outside of work too. Please stop with your finger pointing.

Flaxmeadow · 28/12/2021 22:28

then how do you explain why the majority of positive cases currently are vaccinated people who have spread to fellow vaccinated people

Because the vast majority of adults are vaccinated

My reply was to someone who said the unvaccinated are only a risk to themselves. This is not true because the majority of patients in ICU are not vaccinated and so obviously this is a risk to the cancellation of routine operations, or emergency admissions, or whatever else, because the virus causes pressure on numbers

This is the whole point of the measures. To prevent services being overwhelmed.

But I do feel like im banging my head against a brick wall frankly. This information, repeated over and over again, on tv, the media, briefings etc is not sinking into heads. So I'm probably wasting my time

sosijrol · 28/12/2021 22:33

@ichundich

It does matter if he caught it from an unvaccinated person (who tend to have a higher viral load). Even if he didn't, he might not have caught it at all if enough people were vaccinated. You can stick your fingers in your ears all you like; the fact remains that unvaccinated people play a huge part in Covid spreading and mutating and people dying.

You’re living in LaLaLand!! I’m unvaccinated and I’m careful. I have been in close contact with someone who has been in contact with a positive case so I’m not seeing my parents for 10 days just in case. Not bothering with LFT as I’m fine at home and although they’re useful the tests aren’t perfect. I’d rather not risk spreading something. The majority of people I know who are vaccinated are cocky and think they’re totally immune. Here in Wales, you can go out and mix if you’re double vaccinated if a household member tests positive. You can literally live with someone who HAS covid and be allowed to go out and see other people. And people still think the great unwashed are the ones spreading it!? 😂😂

Lively123 · 28/12/2021 22:34

I think the only thing that was reckless here is you had a gathering of quite a few people some of which are vulnerable and not everyone did LFTs (assuming some did).

cherylshaw · 28/12/2021 22:34

@Flaxmeadow

then how do you explain why the majority of positive cases currently are vaccinated people who have spread to fellow vaccinated people

Because the vast majority of adults are vaccinated

My reply was to someone who said the unvaccinated are only a risk to themselves. This is not true because the majority of patients in ICU are not vaccinated and so obviously this is a risk to the cancellation of routine operations, or emergency admissions, or whatever else, because the virus causes pressure on numbers

This is the whole point of the measures. To prevent services being overwhelmed.

But I do feel like im banging my head against a brick wall frankly. This information, repeated over and over again, on tv, the media, briefings etc is not sinking into heads. So I'm probably wasting my time

Unvaccinated patients make up 47% in icu in the UK, so actually the majority is vaccinated

sosijrol · 28/12/2021 22:36

@Flaxmeadow

then how do you explain why the majority of positive cases currently are vaccinated people who have spread to fellow vaccinated people

Because the vast majority of adults are vaccinated

My reply was to someone who said the unvaccinated are only a risk to themselves. This is not true because the majority of patients in ICU are not vaccinated and so obviously this is a risk to the cancellation of routine operations, or emergency admissions, or whatever else, because the virus causes pressure on numbers

This is the whole point of the measures. To prevent services being overwhelmed.

But I do feel like im banging my head against a brick wall frankly. This information, repeated over and over again, on tv, the media, briefings etc is not sinking into heads. So I'm probably wasting my time

Public health wales states that over three quarters of hospitalised covid patients are double vaxxed…

Flaxmeadow · 28/12/2021 22:41

Unvaccinated patients make up 47% in icu in the UK, so actually the majority is vaccinated

Not true and even if it was, they would still be a minority in real numbers

If 10% of total UK pop adults are not vaccinated but they made up half or even a third of those in ICU, then obviously it is the unvaccinated putting pressure on services because they still a high number out of 10% of total population