Christmas and the unvaccinated

[Whathefisgoingon]

Has anyone changed their plans?

DP and I fully vaccinated including booster. Two year old obviously isn’t.

Plan was to go to the in laws, but there will be a couple of relatives there who are not vaccinated and live in London.

I have voiced my concerns to DP but he became defensive saying it’s no different to me popping to the ships. It’s obviously very different because when I go to the shops I’m wearing an FFP2 and not sitting indoors for hours on end with others.

Anyway, I genuinely don’t know what to do. The obvious solution is for all to do lateral flows, but apparently with Omicron they can change within hours so they’re not that reliable.

If these relatives weren’t going about life in London as normal, I may feel differently.

Thoughts?

I think there is a HUGE difference between accepted science VERSUS emerging science/small scale studies/non peer reviewed research.

We should NOT be basing our decisions on emerging science. We should be basing our decisions on robust, peer reviewed science.

WHO/NHS will be advising based on the robust/peer reviewed/accepted science.

The problem with posters like @bumbleymummy is, as per one of her papers here - it is small scale/out of date/not peer reviewed/ emerging science.

She is using it to push an agenda and that is dangerous. To dissuade others from making vital health decisions.

We should be trusting the NHS/WHO guidance - this science has been peer reviewed, and robustly tested.

The emerging science should be listened to - but you wait until it feeds into the accepted science before using it to make vital health decisions.

@ShinyHappyPoster @nojudgementhere @BelleHathor

@3WildOnes and @Whathefisgoingon my above post is to you too

I'm sure people make these threads for a wind up now theres a new one every day

@Wellbythebloodyhell

I'm sure people make these threads for a wind up now theres a new one every day

Agreed.

@Wellbythebloodyhell

I'm sure people make these threads for a wind up now theres a new one every day

Me too

Just because they are unvaccinated doesn’t mean they are dirty and should be avoided.

Well as one of 'the unvaccinated', that's how I feel after our friends cancelled Xmas day plans with us. It's shit how the world is right now. And no I don't have covid and never have so I'm not responsible for spreading it to anyone

Oh and treating me like a leper doesn't make me anymore inclined to take a medical treatment that I am uncomfortable with

@FromEden

Just because they are unvaccinated doesn’t mean they are dirty and should be avoided.

Well as one of 'the unvaccinated', that's how I feel after our friends cancelled Xmas day plans with us. It's shit how the world is right now. And no I don't have covid and never have so I'm not responsible for spreading it to anyone

Yes I know someone who has now been banned from visiting one of their family members house due to vaccination status.

I don’t agree with this, as the non vaccinated person isn’t out socialising or mixing with other people on a regular basis. They haven’t or ever had covid, the same as yourself and as Dh has said vaccinations are to protect yourself from serious illness.
Vaccinations don’t stop you catching it or passing it on to others.

Everyone has a choice and I for one won’t treat anyone any differently just because they’ve made the choice not to go ahead.

You’d have been more than welcome in our house!

@Whathefisgoingon

Why do you come on and ask for advice then when you don't get agreement then the other posters are wrong?

@PoppysDad240415 What are you referring to?