Anyone not getting a booster?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

What are you reasons for not getting the booster?

@LostForIdeas

Systematic review confirming that adequate vitamin D level is essential

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33447107/

Meta analysis of vitamin C and covid shows it shortens ICU stays etc..

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33537320/

Just the first two I could find.

For 2.5 years we take everyday Vit 3 with k2 Zinc ascorbate Multi vitamin b Vitamin c I’ve started elderberry tincture for the winter We’ve never had a cold Never had covid Just come back from the canary island , so when we are abroad we drop the Vit d3

@LostForIdeas

There isn't actually any evidence vitamins are helpful for the general population unless you're deficient - apart from the current vit D guidelines which are already on the NHS website.

Any idea about how many people are deficient in vitamin D in the U.K.?
If my memory is right it’s about 40%, some of them who will be critically deficient. It also affects more people from asian communities, who already have more issues coping with covid.

But it’s not a good idea to check vitamin D levels and ensure people have the appropriate levels? Ok…..

My doc said anyone above the 40 degree parallel needs to supplement every day

@elliehamster

You really think we have a choice whether to have a booster or decline? There will be no choice soon. We are being cleverly coerced whilst being given the illusion of choice. If you have noticed world politics, many other countries are ahead of the UK. If you don’t get the latest booster (and god knows how many more boosters are in the pipeline, Israel is on their fourth fo example) then you will be classed as unvaccinated for the purpose of the vaccine pass - no entry to any public place including work. Australia have the army out and about to enforce this. Time to think hard about our government.

Ooh, sounds ominous

I think a lot of people are going to accept no holidays abroad or attending crowded events as a price they are willing to pay. I got the AZ as I thought it would give me immunity for at least a year and allow me to travel. I now see I was conned. I’m not having a Moderna ‘booster’ which is not a booster at all but a completely different vaccine. Then having to have another one probably in another few months, and on and on. Enough is enough.

I wasn’t sure at first but I don’t have time to be Ill, will be getting it after new year... just in case it floors me, I have too much to do before then..

All these people refusing a booster, I take it you’ll also refuse NHS care for Covid

I’m a smoker. Do you think if I get a smoking related illness, I will say to my. GP “no, no, don’t treat me, it’s my own fault for being a smoker” . Of course not! I will take any treatment offered/needed.

We’re not bloody robots who all eat the prescribed amount of healthy food each day, take our exercise and never do anything that’s bad for us. Not yet anyway! Although the way things are going, I see that being the future! For the moment at least, we have what’s called personal choice.

We are currently “allowed” to decide what risks we take with our own bodies. And quite frankly, that should never be taken away from us. Vaccine passports will coerce a lot of people into having jabs they wouldn’t have otherwise had. It shouldn’t go any further than that.

@DressingPafe

All these people refusing a booster, I take it you’ll also refuse NHS care for Covid

I’m a smoker. Do you think if I get a smoking related illness, I will say to my. GP “no, no, don’t treat me, it’s my own fault for being a smoker” . Of course not! I will take any treatment offered/needed.

We’re not bloody robots who all eat the prescribed amount of healthy food each day, take our exercise and never do anything that’s bad for us. Not yet anyway! Although the way things are going, I see that being the future! For the moment at least, we have what’s called personal choice.

We are currently “allowed” to decide what risks we take with our own bodies. And quite frankly, that should never be taken away from us. Vaccine passports will coerce a lot of people into having jabs they wouldn’t have otherwise had. It shouldn’t go any further than that.

You might find it's not quite as clear cut as that . I know someone who had a heart issue related to smoking and the surgeon was very clear to this person about receiving treatment and ongoing smoking . While they may not say it there are parameters . It's like giving a liver transplant to an alcoholic - there are stipulations .

All these people refusing a booster, I take it you’ll also refuse NHS care for Covid

So many illnesses are lifestyle related. Does it apply to everyone or only those refusing the booster ?

I think a lot of people are going to accept no holidays abroad or attending crowded events as a price they are willing to pay. I got the AZ as I thought it would give me immunity for at least a year and allow me to travel. I now see I was conned. I’m not having a Moderna ‘booster’ which is not a booster at all but a completely different vaccine. Then having to have another one probably in another few months, and on and on. Enough is enough.

this.
good faith has been lost.

Does it apply to everyone or only those refusing the booster ?

Only those refusing the booster as this isn't a lifestyle choice, it's a refusal of NHS care. The care has been offered in the form of a free, effective vaccine and booster. You shouldn't be able to refuse that and then say actually you'd like that cancer patient's ICU slot.

I had Covid and was double jabbed. It was bloody awful and I was so glad I had the double vaccine to mitigate some of the effects.

Just had my booster and again very grateful that I have been able to get it.

My clinically vulnerable son had Covid and coped really well despite being unvaccinated.

If he could get the vaccine now I'd be delighted but at least I know he'd probably cope, especially with the added benefits of anti bodies.

@CatsArePeople you are fundamentally misunderstanding how viruses work. This one is nasty and out to get us, it’s mutating. The only thing that’s conning you is the virus, certainly not the scientists.
You crack on if you are unworried about getting seriously sick

So sky news are reporting that covid and two vaccines give great protection. So why should I get boosted? Why should anyone who has had this subject their body to a further vaccine? Where is the logic

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-previous-infection-and-vaccination-combine-for-best-protection-against-variants-12489031

This one is nasty and out to get us, it’s mutating.

What makes you think that Omicron is particularly nasty?

you are fundamentally misunderstanding how viruses work. This one is nasty and out to get us, it’s mutating

I think it is you who is misunderstanding. Viruses generally mutate to become more transmissible but less deadly. If a virus kills people too quickly the virus itself will die out as all its hosts are dead before they have manged to pass it on to enough other people. Ideally what a virus wants (if it could have wants) would be to make people a little bit poorly so they cough and sneeze but still well enough to go to work, travel on the bus etc that way in can infect as many other people as possible.

@Chachasha

Does it apply to everyone or only those refusing the booster ?

Only those refusing the booster as this isn't a lifestyle choice, it's a refusal of NHS care. The care has been offered in the form of a free, effective vaccine and booster. You shouldn't be able to refuse that and then say actually you'd like that cancer patient's ICU slot.

And care is also provided in the form of stop smoking clinics and weight loss clinics. . If you don't take that advice and care surely you should forfeit the NHS services.

[quote Nerdygirl]So sky news are reporting that covid and two vaccines give great protection. So why should I get boosted? Why should anyone who has had this subject their body to a further vaccine? Where is the logic

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-previous-infection-and-vaccination-combine-for-best-protection-against-variants-12489031[/quote]
Exactly!!!

And if a third is needed because vaccine 1 and 2 don't work as well why not tell those unvaccinated or those only with vaccine 1 to skip straight to the 3rd one.

Why make people get a 3 if only the third one works.

Viruses generally mutate to become more transmissible but less deadly.

This is something people keep stating as a fact, but I from what I understand there’s not clear evidence for it.

There are a lot more factors in play in terms of selection pressure than simple virulence/transmissibility.

Viruses evolve by mutation like everything else that evolves and mutates. It's all just happy accident. There is no choice, it's all accidental. Simple as that. If it benefits the virus than it survives better. But it could get more deadly and more transmisable just as easily. It's not conscious choice.

Viruses generally mutate to become more transmissible but less deadly.

I'd love to hear from any scientists whether this in fact true or not?!

so when more boosters come up, will it be that we need all the doses that ever been released, or the latest one will suffice? Also do we need to have a variety because single manufacturer doesn't produce all the desired results?

And if a third is needed because vaccine 1 and 2 don't work as well why not tell those unvaccinated or those only with vaccine 1 to skip straight to the 3rd one. Why make people get a 3 if only the third one works.

😂 That's like saying: why eat five portions of fruit and veg daily when we can just eat one and call it number five.

Bluebells

It’s not always the case but often is as a virus needs to spread to be able to mutate so if it incapacitated or killed it’s host very quickly it’s harder for it to do so.

And if a third is needed because vaccine 1 and 2 don't work as well why not tell those unvaccinated or those only with vaccine 1 to skip straight to the 3rd one. Why make people get a 3 if only the third one works

This is like Spinal Tap These go to 11*