Anyone not getting a booster?

[LifesTooShortYOLO]

What are you reasons for not getting the booster?

Laughing

I want more information, which will begin to trickle out in the next days and weeks. Only 3 months since my last jab.

“Fully protected” didn’t last too long, did it?

@megustalacerveza

It's just mindblowing that the same cohort of people who refused to get their jabs and contribute towards herd immunity are largely the same cohort saying how the rising cases show vaccines don't work.

You couldn't make it up.

Exactly. Mind blowing

@hamstersarse

Waning

Leaky

Still transmit in same as unvaccinated

Yes, they have impacted death rates….but more waning than promised.

How you can say they are as anticipated is beyond me. Have you seen the emergency booster programme?!!!

Link to waning promises please

Sorry phone had a bit of a mad moment

As I was saying I’m laughing at people quoting WHO who have been very conspicuous in their abscence since March 2020.
I had my booster yesterday it was booked a couple of weeks ago so before the government went into panic mode. I could have had it in Sept but had Covid then.
I think the fact that the government have put everything on hold means that they know this is probably the real wave and as one friend put it “thank god Boris has decided that 65million lives are more important than a bloody party fiasco”. I am so glad they didn’t have good old Laura from the BBC asking questions after the press conference yesterday. We all know she’d have slipped in a party question.

@hamstersarse

“Fully protected” didn’t last too long, did it?

I don't remember anybody ever saying that the vaccines protected us 100%.

Exactly @edification . I only had second jabb2 months ago then got covid so efficacy didn’t last long did it? And to have the booster a month after recovering from covid would basically mean I have had a covid or the vaccine every month for the last 3. Is this safe? No one can tell? Time periods between jabs seem to have just gone out of the window

@onewayandday

Me, I won't be getting the booster. I've had both my Pfizer jabs and 2 weeks later found out I had myocarditis after crushing chest pains days after the jab. Coincidence or not, I don't know.

Me too. I’m awaiting a mri on my heart so going to see what comes back from that first as I’m in my 30’s and this only started after 2nd Jab. I tell myself it’s coincidence but I’m going to hold off on the booster for now

I probably will have the booster eventually but not rushing out to get it.

I had my 2 jabs with the understanding they would do something to a) protect me from catching Covid and b) stop me passing it on.

Then I caught Covid and passed it on to others.

However as expected, whilst it wasn’t fun, it wasn’t all that bad and I am not all that worried about having it again.

Whilst I have - probably - immunity from my previous infection, I’m just not in any rush to have another jab, risk side effects etc.

It’s not about not caring for others or being selfish - many things I have done during the pandemic have been about the interests of others. Nor am I an anti vaxxer. It’s just that, much like I don’t get the flu jab each year not being particularly at risk, I don’t feel the need for the booster at the moment.

Plus I am a bit burned by the whole AZ thing - a week later with my first dose & I wouldn’t have been offered AZ, and it was very uncomfortable being given my 2nd dose with a leaflet on my lap about how I shouldn’t have it due to my age, risks etc.

@AnotherOneWithNoGoodName

I never said 100% either, but let’s face it their 90+% promises didn’t last too long either.

People dismiss things like obesity, vitamin D as not being relevant with this one track vaccine hive mind but maybe we could have simultaneously thought about these things with the vaccines, as they aren’t the full solution (but yeah, let’s bring in vaccine passports anyway 🤪)

We’ve still got people with vitamin D deficiency which is just absolute lunacy.

We also don’t treat vulnerable people immediately who have covid with therapeutics, we leave them to keep developing symptoms and deteriorating. Monoclonal antibodies, for example, could be used early in disease, but no, we wait until someone can’t breath to start treating them.

Because the vaccine nearly caused my sisters death.. in a supposedly 3 million to one rare condition, that I've since heard of at least 5 other people in my circle have known people that had exactly the same.. no thanks.

We will never get herd immunity to covid 19, that was never a realistic possibility.

It was zapped because it was a poster copying and pasting text from the daily mail comments sections saying "look at this anti-vax comment" @Suzi888

Not sure why you feel the need to repeat it, unless you really believe "big pharma" is injecting all us poor folk with carcinogens to cause "mass depopulation"? @suzi888 Would suggest a quick review of your critical thinking skills...

Calm down @ollyollyoxenfree 🙄

@Suzi888

Calm down *@ollyollyoxenfree* 🙄

Ah, nice misgony there.

I'm perfectly calm, just not sure why you feel the need to repeat health misinformation during a pandemic. Why do people get their kicks from causing anxiety & fear in others?

[quote hamstersarse]@AnotherOneWithNoGoodName

I never said 100% either, but let’s face it their 90+% promises didn’t last too long either.

People dismiss things like obesity, vitamin D as not being relevant with this one track vaccine hive mind but maybe we could have simultaneously thought about these things with the vaccines, as they aren’t the full solution (but yeah, let’s bring in vaccine passports anyway 🤪)

We’ve still got people with vitamin D deficiency which is just absolute lunacy.

We also don’t treat vulnerable people immediately who have covid with therapeutics, we leave them to keep developing symptoms and deteriorating. Monoclonal antibodies, for example, could be used early in disease, but no, we wait until someone can’t breath to start treating them.[/quote]
Yep I fully agree there.

Can’t get my head around the idea that we aren’t supposed to do anything at all until you need hospital and oxygen bar some paracetamol tbh.

Sorry there is one thing they want to try which are some anti virals. There are talks about giving them to vulnerable people just in case as they need to be taken very quickly once symptoms appear.
Except that, if those anti virals aren’t taken properly (right length of time, the right amount etc…) they actually encourage mutations of the virus. Which is one possible reason why we have omicron now
But yes, let’s give them out rather than the vitamin D, vitamin C, weight, smoking, controlling diabetes and all the other things we could do….

@LostForIdeas

But yes, let’s give them out rather than the vitamin D, vitamin C

There's no robust evidence that either vitamin C or D prevents infection or improves clinical outcomes in the general population. Doing a mass campaign and prescribing things for which there's no evidence they work is a big waste of time.

Yes to targeting obesity and smoking, but this is something the government has poured money into for at least the last decade, it's incredibly hard to get people to change behaviours in the long term.

@Fashionista1995

Because I’m still recovering from the first 2…

Same here. It's been 6 months and I've been bleeding (periods) every other week still.

What evidence do you have that vitaminD or vitamin C make no difference?

@LostForIdeas

What evidence do you have that vitaminD or vitamin C make no difference?

That isn't how evidence based medicine works @LostForIdeas

There is no robust evidence either are effective in preventing or treating COVID, therefore there is no justification in targeting resources to encourage people to take them or prescribing them beyond what is already recommended.

[quote ollyollyoxenfree]@LostForIdeas

But yes, let’s give them out rather than the vitamin D, vitamin C

There's no robust evidence that either vitamin C or D prevents infection or improves clinical outcomes in the general population. Doing a mass campaign and prescribing things for which there's no evidence they work is a big waste of time.

Yes to targeting obesity and smoking, but this is something the government has poured money into for at least the last decade, it's incredibly hard to get people to change behaviours in the long term.[/quote]
Why does anything need to be prescribed? Surely it's common sense you take vitamin C and D during a pandemic to make sure your immune system isn't unnecessarily deficient?

It's not about proof of one thing 'preventing infection', it's about not being run down and sickly so that you're more likely to catch anything going.

Immediate therapeutics is just obvious

We of course should be doing that, there are multiple anti virals and therapeutics that could be used immediately on a positive test to stop replication and improve outcomes for the vulnerable

The worship of the vaccine is just odd, especially since the same people say “it was never promised to end this”…..so why are we totally relying on it then?!?!