Plan C to ban household mixing being discussed.

[MercyBooth]

Absolute fuckers.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10113747/Covid-UK-Ministers-discussing-banning-households-mixing-booster-jabs-dont-halt-winter-wave.html?fbclid=IwAR1iNfWAFoAJywK8_wUyX04mCsqh3WKDg4ywZjme6fs5I9xqx5r_ppFwSXU

They're making a rod for their own backs if they go for Plan C. Nobody will comply and how will that make them look?

I will be spending Christmas with my family. My DF is extremely ill, this may be his last Christmas and I will not have that taken away me. DM is struggling to cope and needs support, she will continue receiving help from us. I complied with every single rule the government imposed whilst witnessing people completely ignoring them, so I’m done with the rules I will be doing what is best for me and my family

They have to fit in all the covid stuff this week as next week they will be back to flogging ASHPs

@ivykaty44

I work with multiple households everyday, and so do many others. It’s going to be hard to say don’t see other households but go to work and they can all come inside there.

Last lockdown they were all stopped from entering work, so it made sense at home - to a degree

Many others will be in similar situations

This is what life was like at my school. Come to work but don't see anyone else.

No way will this government go down that route. They won’t even bring back simple measures so many other places do. They don’t even wear masks themselves in parliament etc. They don’t care about covid killing people and over running healthcare. It’s click bait.

I can’t for the life of me work out why masks and ventilation protocols aren’t mandated.

It'd be a drop in the ocean, anyway.

Almost all transmission is in schools, other crowded workplaces and then immediate households not wider family mixing.

I mean most working people only have time to see their extended family on the odd occasion, once a month or something. If we're talking retired granny goes to see retired granny friend, yes, that could be frequent, but they're less likely to be catching it and spreading it anywhere else anyway.

I can't see the modelling showing this would make hardly any difference.

[quote MercyBooth]@TreaslakeandBack Yeah After whats come out about No 10 last Christmas they are going to need a lot of luck.[/quote]
@MercyBooth what came out abou5 last Christmas?

@Justcannotbearsed
Boris had Carrie's mother in his house

Ds school are reintroducing mask wearing for the first two weeks after half term, they had 17% of pupils off with Covid last week.

@Tilltheend99

People who are so happy about catching flu are going to get a shock if they ever actually get flu. Pre Covid people didn’t go around saying how happy they would be to have flu.

“Oh Charlie, you just have the flu? Come in and work, we have that important meeting and you know we don’t mind a bit of flu round here”

Who's happy about catching the flu? But there are limits to what most people will do to avoid it, because it's not really that big a deal in the grand scheme of things.

Do you know you can do those things (bar the WFH) without the Government telling you to? And again, this is sourced from the DailyMail that had no particular source it wished to name. As far as I'm concerned, this type of 'journalism' is the lowest kind.

[quote SapereAude]@Justcannotbearsed
Boris had Carrie's mother in his house[/quote]
The story I read in the press a couple of days ago was that Carrie had a friend over for Christmas lunch, but was there as 'child care bubble'. I'm not sure what the childcare rules were back then in Tier 4, but I'm pretty certain childcare bubbles were supposed to be just that - for childcare and socialising between adults was prohibited

If this is true, it seems like another fuck you to families that were struggling with missing loved ones last Christmas

Honestly they can introduce what rules they like but compliance is another thing!

Fear has gone elsewhere off mumsnet. I certainly will be living life c=normally as I have done all year. No asymptomatic testing. No masks. No wfh

Serve strangers at a restaurant and bar but don't see your family. Yeah, that'll fly.

I don't see how they could possibly have the nerve to pull that shit. When we've got MPs packed into the house of commons without masks, and we're being fed the "get back to the office" line, with policies that actively drive transmission and absolutely useless messaging from government, the responsibility for an unmanageable third wave lies firmly with them. I have no idea why mitigations like compulsory masks inside haven't been brought in yet. To not introduce measures like that which reduce transmission now, but have zero effect on the economy or anything, then ban household mixing later, should not be tolerated.

Well to be fair on Boris he probably wanted someone his age to talk to.

In France 6k cases and 29 deaths.
The french still wear masks and cannot go to a bar or restaurant without proof of vaccination.
On market days masks have to be worn outside too.
Simple measures.

@MercyBooth are you trying to whip us all into A State of Fear?😏 I thought you were against that sort of thing?

I am always cynical whenever anyone from the government opens their mouth.

I decided that the stuff about acting now and personal responsibility so we can celebrate Christmas is them simply laying the foundations for "we asked you all to be sensible, you weren't....so no Christmas for you".

I would avoid household mixing- because so many children I teach will be in families who won't. My household have all had it in the last few weeks- my parents and DH's parent have not.

Indeed, we need to get firm on vaccination, you don't have to get vaccinated, but your lifestyle outside the home will be limited by that choice. Their vaccination choice shouldn't fuck the rest of us.

Surely this won’t work as households will mix at school, in pubs, in restaurants, in bars, in shops, at softplay etc etc etc so I can’t go to my sisters house but we can go to the same softplay. Hmmm

People should stop blaming the government and take their own responsibility.

Every decision made people are arguing about anyway .

Reduce mixing
Wear a mask
Sanitize

No one is stopping you .

I think they could (and should) implement plab B now (face masks, working from home) - but people just won’t listen anymore. I was in the supermarket last night. I was the ONLY one with a facemask on.

I’ve followed every rule throughout and have understood the reason for them at the time. But even I now think its getting pointless. Covid is not going away. I’ve just had my booster but DH isn’t eligible for his. So in my mind, its better for him to get exposed now whilst he’s still in the ‘window of protection’ from his vaccine rather than hide himself away and catch it later on when maybe his vaccine protection has faded a bit. As for DD, its just inevitable that she will get it this winter. I cannot see any way she will escape it.

I DO wear a mask. It's the 90% of everyone else who don't who are the problem. Those people are driving transmission and making it more likely that something like Plan C will happen. Plan B needs to be implemented and enforced now, because very few are adopting measures voluntarily.