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Data, Stats & Daily Numbers started 5th August 2021

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boys3 · 04/08/2021 22:48

This is the DATA thread. We welcome factual, data driven and analytical contributions
Please try to keep discussion focused on these
UK govt press conferences slides & data www.gov.uk/government/collections/slides-and-datasets-to-accompany-coronavirus-press-conferences#history
PHE Variants of Concern Technical Briefings www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-novel-sars-cov-2-variant-variant-of-concern-20201201
PHE Vaccine efficacy www.gov.uk/government/publications/phe-monitoring-of-the-effectiveness-of-covid-19-vaccination
SAGE : Minutes and Models www.gov.uk/government/collections/scientific-evidence-supporting-the-government-response-to-coronavirus-covid-19
Data Dashboard coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Dashboard Vaccine Map to MSOA level coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/interactive-map/vaccinations
Covid 19 Genomics www.cogconsortium.uk/tools-analysis/public-data-analysis-2/
Sanger Genome Maps & Data covid19.sanger.ac.uk/lineages/raw
UCL Virus Watch ucl-virus-watch.net/
NHS Vaccination data www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-vaccinations/
Global vaccination data ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
R estimates UK & English regions www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk
Imperial UK weekly LAs, cases / 100k, table, map, hotspots statistics imperialcollegelondon.github.io/covid19local/#map
NHS England Hospital activity www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-hospital-activity/
NHS England Daily deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Cases Tracker England Local Government lginform.local.gov.uk/reports/view/lga-research/covid-19-case-tracker
ONS MSOA Map English deaths www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

Scot gov Daily data www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/
Scotland TravellingTabby LAs, care homes, hospitals, tests, t&t www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/
PH Wales LAs, cases, tests, deaths Dashboard public.tableau.com/profile/public.health.wales.health.protection#!/vizhome/RapidCOVID-19virology-Public/Headlinesummary
ICNRC Intensive Care National Audit & Research reports www.icnarc.org/Our-Audit/Audits/Cmp/Reports
NHS t&t England & UK testing Weekly stats www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
PHE Surveillance reports & LA Local Watchlist Maps by LSOA (from last summer) www.gov.uk/government/collections/nhs-test-and-trace-statistics-england-weekly-reports
ONS England infection surveillance report each Friday www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/previousReleases
Datasets for ONS surveillance reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/datasets/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveydata/2020
ONS Roundup deaths, infections & economic reports www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26
Zoe UK data covid.joinzoe.com/data#interactive-map
ECDC (European Centre for Disease Control rolling 14-day incidence EEA & UK www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Worldometer UK page www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/
Our World in Data GB test positivity etc, DIY country graphs ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-kingdom?country=~GBR
FT DIY graphs compare deaths, cases, raw / million pop ig.ft.com/coronavirus-chart/?areas=eur&areas=usa&areas=bra&areas=gbr&areas=cze&areas=hun&areasRegional=usny&areasRegional=usnj&areasRegional=usaz&areasRegional=usca&areasRegional=usnd&areasRegional=ussd&cumulative=0&logScale=0&per100K=1&startDate=2020-09-01&values=deaths

PHE local health data fingertips.phe.org.uk/profile/health-profiles
Alama Personal COVID risk assessment alama.org.uk/covid-19-medical-risk-assessment/
Local Mobility Reports for countries www.google.com/covid19/mobility/
UK Highstreet Tracker for cities & large towns Footfall, spend index, workers, visitors, economic recovery www.centreforcities.org/data/high-streets-recovery-tracker/

Our STUDIES Cornerwww.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/3869571-Studies-corner?msgid=99913434

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MRex · 29/08/2021 17:46

There are mild mutations all the time; opportunity to spread like a big festival can make one appear more prominent temporarily. That doesn't mean it will ultimately be more successful, it could even be weaker than other strains. Significant mutations are most likely from those who take longest to recover from illness; frail elderly and immune suppressed in particular. That's why they should be a priority for vaccination (including immune suppressed children). Most of the world has taken roughly that approach, though Indonesia (and was it Philippines too?) went the other way with vaccinating young who they felt were more likely to spread. I'm not sure how well that worked as an alternative strategy.

JanglyBeads · 29/08/2021 17:55

Thanks mrex, that’s what I thought.

Just googled Indonesia and it looks like it’s too early to tell, they were vaccinating teens in July.

boys3 · 29/08/2021 17:56

today's England spec date graphic - really just re-iterating winter's earlier post

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boys3 · 29/08/2021 18:00

like for likes cases as last reported today and as reported last Sunday for monday-saturday spec dates (as reported to the same point each week)

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boys3 · 29/08/2021 18:02

which gives a seven day case rate in England that is starting to dip.

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boys3 · 29/08/2021 18:22

and in the last seven days, based on a three day reporting lag, a majority of Councils with a falling rate in England (194 v 119, with 2 unchanged)

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sirfredfredgeorge · 29/08/2021 18:48

The numbers for England look pretty good but what is sort of concerning is the continuous increase in prevalence in 60s+. Even in London, which has got the lowest 7-day rate across all regions with cases falling, the trend is still on the rise

Given we're in the "expect everyone to get it", then eventually all those unvaccinated over 60's will get it, and many over 60's will have breakthrough infections, and this is what we're seeing, it's growing slowly rather than in a wave 'cos they're presumably not clustering in the pubs enough, we will see it continue to rise there until we add protection via herd immunity to stop it spreading as much.

Pubs and Festivals for the 18-25, and then schools will hopefully do that pretty quickly as long as we don't go overboard on delaying spread in those environments - I want overshoot in these groups were there's few risks as it will deliver protection to the vulnerable sooner.

herecomesthsun · 29/08/2021 18:53

To the contrary, it would be a great boon if we can keep numbers as low as we can for as long as possible Smile

That seems to be the policy on the continent, for example in Germany.

Having done rather well initially with our vaccine initiative we seem to be lagging behind other European nations wrt vaccinations now & to have resigned ourselves to infecting everyone in the country under 16. It is appallingly stupid.

herecomesthsun · 29/08/2021 18:59

www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/europe-pulling-ahead-britain-great-covid-race/

How Europe is pulling ahead of Britain in the great Covid race

We had a head start but ...

Europe joined the vaccine race late, but the pace ... in recent months has been staggering. France is now fractionally ahead of us on single jabs, while Finland, Denmark, Ireland, Spain and Portugal now all have a significantly greater proportion of their citizens fully vaccinated.

...many countries in Europe have more stringent measures still in place but are also more mobile and active....

Bizawit · 29/08/2021 19:29

To the contrary, it would be a great boon if we can keep numbers as low as we can for as long as possible

Regardless of the cost?

Bordois · 29/08/2021 19:41

So given that tomorrow is a Bank Holiday and then schools start to go back later in the week I guess the next 2-3 weeks are going to be a bit interesting case-wise!

buckles up for the ride

sirfredfredgeorge · 29/08/2021 19:51

The problem is you cannot suppress cases without lockdown, all other restrictions do is delay infection.

So then it's about the cost of the delay vs the savings.

Delays cost - not least the real risk of vaccines waning, but the actual restrictions themselves have other health costs. In the situation we have now, the risks are most heavily on people who have chosen not to vaccinate, harming others health to protect these people is not warranted.

herecomesthsun · 29/08/2021 20:03

@Bizawit

To the contrary, it would be a great boon if we can keep numbers as low as we can for as long as possible

Regardless of the cost?

masks? we already have

vaccines? we are just sitting on a load, apparently

tests? as far as I know, we have...

what is Europe doing that we're not doing? (see linked article)

herecomesthsun · 29/08/2021 20:09

The problem is that herd immunity is a false mirage.

If you bump up the cases earlier you will at this point just get more pressure on the NHS going into autumn and winter, more hospitalised people and more deaths. We will have 10s of 1000s of deaths anyhow, but that could be pushed higher by poor management.

sirfredfredgeorge · 29/08/2021 20:11

The problem is that herd immunity is a false mirage

Even the worst estimates for re-infection is 2%, so how can it be such? What is your evidence?

herecomesthsun · 29/08/2021 20:18

There seems to be a scientific consensus that herd immunity isn't possible with delta.

For example (there are lots of similar articles but this seems fairly recent) www.politico.eu/article/herd-immunity-not-a-possibility-with-delta-variant/

Herd immunity ‘not a possibility’ with Delta variant

Head of Oxford Vaccine Group says vaccination won’t stop spread
altogether.

LONDON — Herd immunity is “not a possibility” with the current spread of the Delta variant due to it still infecting vaccinated individuals, the head of the Oxford Vaccine Group Andrew Pollard said Tuesday.

Pollard, who was involved in the development of the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine, told the U.K.'s All-Party Parliamentary Group on coronavirus that, unlike measles — where 95 percent vaccination of the population would stop transmission — the same couldn’t be said for coronavirus spread by the Delta variants.
...
given the circulation of the highly transmissible Delta variant vaccination wouldn’t stop spread altogether.

“We are in a situation with this current variant where herd immunity is not a possibility because it still infects vaccinated individuals,” he said. “I suspect that what the virus will throw up next is a variant which is perhaps even better at transmitting in vaccinated populations. So that’s .. even more of a reason not to be making a vaccine program around herd immunity.”

herecomesthsun · 29/08/2021 20:22

and another article going into the maths a bit more

www.ndtv.com/world-news/has-delta-killed-the-herd-immunity-dream-2520643

Has Delta Killed The Herd Immunity Dream?

....Has Delta Killed The Herd Immunity Dream?
Delta has shown to be roughly 60 percent more transmissible than the Alpha variant of SARS-CoV-2 virus

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Paris, France: As the Delta variant continues its global surge, experts are questioning whether the long-held goal of achieving herd immunity from Covid-19 through vaccination is still viable.
Herd immunity is achieved when a certain threshold of the global population has either been inoculated against a pathogen or has recovered from infection.

But whether or not it is achievable with Covid-19, with the regular emergence of more infectious strains, is up for debate.

"If the question is 'will vaccination alone allow us to dampen and control the pandemic?' the answer is: no," epidemiologist Mircea Sofonea told AFP.

He said herd immunity hinged on two basic factors.

"That's the intrinsic infectiousness of the virus and the efficacy of vaccines to protect against infection. And at the moment, that efficacy isn't there."

Delta has shown to be roughly 60 percent more transmissible than the Alpha variant of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, and up to twice as infectious as the original strain that emerged in late 2019.

The more effective the virus becomes at infecting people, the higher the herd immunity threshold becomes.

"Theoretically, it's a very simple calculation to make," said epidemiologist Antoine Flahault.

For the original virus, which had a reproduction rate between zero and three meaning each infected person infects up to three others herd immunity could have been achieved with around 66 percent of people immunised, Flahault told AFP.

"But if the reproduction rate is eight, as with Delta, that puts us closer to 90 percent," he said.

Were vaccines 100 percent effective at stopping Delta infections, that 90 percent could conceivably be possible. Unfortunately, they aren't.

Waning immunity? -

According to data published this week by US authorities, the efficacy of the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines at preventing infection has fallen from 91 percent to 66 percent since Delta became the dominant variant.

And studies have shown that the vaccine efficacy against infection with Delta falls over time -- one of the reasons why several countries are now readying for an autumn third shot, or "booster", vaccination campaign.

With all this taken into account, [without] other health measures such as mask-wearing or social distancing, Sofonea said it would take more than 100 per cent of people to be vaccinated in order to guarantee transmissions end -- an obvious impossibility.

Dghgcotcitc · 29/08/2021 20:24

I think the continent is opening schools in September too no? Most didn’t shut them last academic year and prioritised education much mor so surprised if they don’t this year! The shut schools is a very English/ USA-obsession. Given no primary kids being vaccinated across the continent then realistic it’s the same policy just that the public value education more rather than “protect kids from kids from covid at all cost”

Bizawit · 29/08/2021 20:38

@herecomesthsun but it’s not just only a question of money/ supply of equipment . Yes we have vaccines, tests and masks and have been utilising all these things.

MRex · 29/08/2021 20:40

Let's just go back into the logic for a moment. Transmission doesn't need to entirely end for outbreaks to diminish due to strength of community immunity and due to those cases that so occur being milder as repeat infections or for those with some vaccine immunity. More vaccines, more unvaccinated infections and vaccinated people being infected (whether with symptoms or not) will be increasing immunity daily; we are climbing from 92% a month ago. We will run out of unvaccinated who haven't been exposed and the 100% is not far away. Boosters may also have a significant impact on immunity for reduced transmission and reduced illness severity.

Acceptance that covid is now endemic means understanding that with the additional transmission capability we will all be exposed and hope vaccines will reduce the severity. Many of us will get sick, hopefully less severe illness, when do we accept that if not now? Many will get reinfected again in a year or two if the vaccines aren't improved or boosters given, we have to learn to accept that so when does that realisation come? In absence of any other plan, we are starting that proceas now, or we delay it, but that is the logic. I do not believe people are more willing to live another year distanced and in a mask with restrictions on activities, never mind living that way for the rest of our lives, because that isn't living.

herecomesthsun · 29/08/2021 20:47

[quote Bizawit]@herecomesthsun but it’s not just only a question of money/ supply of equipment . Yes we have vaccines, tests and masks and have been utilising all these things.[/quote]
but are stepping down their use a bit for the autumn term

Sunshinegirl82 · 29/08/2021 20:52

Went to Bath for the weekend and felt completely back to normal, a few masks still (maybe half?) but packed shops, restaurants, bars. Based on what I saw this weekend a significant chunk of people are just getting on with it now.

I think the "Europe is racing ahead with the vaccine message" is a bit misleading given we are not vaccinating teenagers yet. The JCVI have made a number of decisions that were initially criticised but were ultimately successful. I'm happy to trust them on the decision about if/when it's appropriate to extend vaccination to children.

herecomesthsun · 29/08/2021 20:58

@MRex by the way where does the 92% figure come from and are you including under 18s in that - because you should.

MRex · 29/08/2021 21:05

[quote herecomesthsun]@MRex by the way where does the 92% figure come from and are you including under 18s in that - because you should.[/quote]
ONS. There hasn't been antibody testing for little ones that I'm aware of. Children (excluding the older teens) have consistently had milder disease and lower infection rates than adults (

herecomesthsun · 29/08/2021 21:08

Little ones & young people are still part of the "herd" though.