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What do we do if cases rocket in September?

311 replies

ncnoclue · 25/07/2021 17:22

If schools etc being closed means that cases massively drop and we can in fact, live normal lives. And then once they go back, they shoot up again and we can't cope.

Is the plan to keep everything else closed, just to keep schools open? So even though everyone who wants it has been vaccinated and there's no other answer, we keep the economy closed indefinitely to keep schools open?!

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Flowerlane · 25/07/2021 17:25

I don’t think everything will close again. The economy won’t survive being closed down again for months on end.

TraumatizedFlower · 25/07/2021 17:25

There's no going back. Kids will get it and develop immunity. Job done.

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ncnoclue · 25/07/2021 17:25

Thank you both! I agree but was wondering / worrying

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Nikki305 · 25/07/2021 17:26

If it gets to that point they might recommend vaccinating kids. The other option would be just to let it run through schools to reach herd immunity, but no one really knows how that would work out. Given kids are exempt from isolating after the middle of August, I guess a lot of kids are going to catch it anyway

StealthPolarBear · 25/07/2021 17:27

@Flowerlane

I don’t think everything will close again. The economy won’t survive being closed down again for months on end.
People have said that all along and yet somehow we keep doing it, although I do think we're in for a shock when furlough ends. Back in March 2020 the thought businesses could survive three weeks closure was madness.
SleepingStandingUp · 25/07/2021 17:28

keep the economy closed indefinitely to keep schools open?! does anyone actually believe this though? I mean there's not been a time when the economy has actually been closed and they've opened when they could. But yes, woth a low death to case ratio, of course they'll close the economy forever

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ncnoclue · 25/07/2021 17:29

@SleepingStandingUp can you rephrase? Not following sorry.

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herecomesthsun · 25/07/2021 17:30

@Nikki305

If it gets to that point they might recommend vaccinating kids. The other option would be just to let it run through schools to reach herd immunity, but no one really knows how that would work out. Given kids are exempt from isolating after the middle of August, I guess a lot of kids are going to catch it anyway
Hmm, so will they send the young people home for 8 weeks while they try to organise that alongside vaccinating the vulnerable adults with boosters?

It is hard to see how this will work, really, even if they start to get their act together now.

Wouldyoudothesame · 25/07/2021 17:30

@TraumatizedFlower genuinely asking as I don't understand...I thought that people who had Covid could get it again so how would be achieve herd immunity this way? Do people actually develop immunity from catching Covid?

GintyMcGinty · 25/07/2021 17:33

Cases numbers don't matter.

Hospitalisation and deaths matter. They would have to go back to the point if the NHS not being able to cope before anything will happen.

If the vaccines keep working then there will be no changes no matter the case nos.

Overthebow · 25/07/2021 17:33

No they won’t keep everything else closed to keep schools open. They know the majority won’t comply with that and there’s no need now most adults are vaccinated.

Savannahnanana · 25/07/2021 17:33

We keep calm and carry on; same as before. Now, enjoy your summer and don’t spend time worrying about something that may not happen. 😉

rookiemere · 25/07/2021 17:33

Goodness knows, in Scotland it looks like we're heading into the new term with still all the risk of isolations so another ruined year of education. I'd gladly get DS15 vaccinated if it meant he'd actually get an uninterrupted in person education, but we're not being given that choice.

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ncnoclue · 25/07/2021 17:35

@Savannahnanana I don't call 3 lockdowns keeping calm and carrying on!

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NannyAndJohn · 25/07/2021 17:35

It's almost certainly going to be a case of when, not if.

And if our government still refuse to vaccinate children, we'll have no choice but to have another lockdown. Especially with flu season around the corner.

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ncnoclue · 25/07/2021 17:36

@NannyAndJohn you know cases are dropping right now? A far cry from 100k by 21st June

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Donationwitheverypack · 25/07/2021 17:36

I actually thinks schools open helps keep numbers down. There's better control and the kind of contact children have with each other is different in school to it is if they're meeting outside school.

Of course there have been lots of cases in school, there have been lots of cases in the community and that has meant lots of isolations, but how many of you who have had children who needed to isolate actually went on to catch anything? IME transmission within schools has been very low.

September will depend on the hospitals though, cases won't matter if the ping thing gets sorted and people aren't getting so ill

Myusernameisnotmyusernameno · 25/07/2021 17:37

Well I'm not having my child vaccinated until there's more research and testing done into it so they'd better not force it. I'm vaccinated myself but I don't think there's enough known about the effect on kids.

TraumatizedFlower · 25/07/2021 17:37

[quote Wouldyoudothesame]@TraumatizedFlower genuinely asking as I don't understand...I thought that people who had Covid could get it again so how would be achieve herd immunity this way? Do people actually develop immunity from catching Covid?[/quote]
Some immunity yes. How long it lasts is debatable. But more immunity means less chance of virus spreading so numbers gradually get low as to not be concerning.

WildWestWanda · 25/07/2021 17:37

Number of cases are completely irrelevant!

It’s numbers needing hospital treatment and the number of people dying.

At some point they need to stop publishing numbers

Flowerlane · 25/07/2021 17:38

@StealthPolarBear definitely will notice the difference when furlough ends.

Our high street is now like a ghost town and the local large shopping centre is going the same way.

TraumatizedFlower · 25/07/2021 17:39

@NannyAndJohn

It's almost certainly going to be a case of when, not if.

And if our government still refuse to vaccinate children, we'll have no choice but to have another lockdown. Especially with flu season around the corner.

You do talk twaddle😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
NannyAndJohn · 25/07/2021 17:39

[quote ncnoclue]@NannyAndJohn you know cases are dropping right now? A far cry from 100k by 21st June [/quote]
The reasons for the temporary drop have been widely discussed - the football coming to an end, schools closed in Scotland, and fewer tests being carried out.

Within the next couple of weeks we'll be able to measure just how much the Big Reopening is driving cases back up again.

HesterShaw1 · 25/07/2021 17:40

You've seen the falls in the last week haven't you? This is too soon to have been because most schools broke up last week. They are on their way down even though schools have been open.

Why, it's almost as though it's an infection curve rather than an infinite infection mountain!

SuperstoreFan · 25/07/2021 17:40

@WildWestWanda

Number of cases are completely irrelevant!

It’s numbers needing hospital treatment and the number of people dying.

At some point they need to stop publishing numbers

Why, so we can pretend everything is hunky dory and then shit ourselves if cases start rocketing?