What do we do if cases rocket in September?

[ncnoclue]

If schools etc being closed means that cases massively drop and we can in fact, live normal lives. And then once they go back, they shoot up again and we can't cope.

Is the plan to keep everything else closed, just to keep schools open? So even though everyone who wants it has been vaccinated and there's no other answer, we keep the economy closed indefinitely to keep schools open?!

I'm sure those ex City of London workers will still be spending money @CrouchEndTiger12, only they'll be doing it closer to home.

In our city the centre has been very badly hit. Lots of closures and job losses. But local shops, cafes, restaurants, many of which were closing pre pandemic are booming. So jobs bring created. I'm far from convinced that this is a bad thing.

@noblegiraffe

those same people never seem to be able to come up with realistic solutions.

Well that’s a lie. Masks in classrooms, for example. Impossible to implement?

There were howls of protest on here and other fora when it was suggested that pupils/teachers be forced to wear masks, so, without support, it was impossible.

@Porcupineintherough

I'm sure those ex City of London workers will still be spending money *@CrouchEndTiger12*, only they'll be doing it closer to home.

In our city the centre has been very badly hit. Lots of closures and job losses. But local shops, cafes, restaurants, many of which were closing pre pandemic are booming. So jobs bring created. I'm far from convinced that this is a bad thing.

I don't think they are. Wfh is very different.

There isn't always a place you can go out to for lunch. There isn't in my town.

Business meetings and lunches are now all by zoom.

Not to mention the social aspect missing.

You know schools had masks in classrooms from March to May, Bunny so your ‘impossible’ is just trying to rewrite history because you were wrong.

@Badbadbunny

Pupils were never forced to wear masks, it was recommended.

@herecomesthsun

Yes, there was an awful lot of "schools must never close" followed by closed schools Jan - March. Seems very reasonable in retrospect to have suggested there was a problem to be addressed.

People always go to shoot the messenger.

I had a thread at Christmas where I suggested that a change in messaging from the government raised the possibility of them closing schools. I was robustly admonished for this….and yet I was right. 🤷‍♀️

"Just to keep schools open"

"Just" like educating children isn't important at all

I think we established long ago that keeping schools open and educating kids was something that people viewed as utterly unimportant and that kids just didn't matter at all. Then the equating of parents wanting their kids to have an actual future as some kind of pro-Trump right wing terrorist group as well. Amazing how narratives can be rewritten and memories erased so easily.

Funny, what I remember is lots and lots of people claiming that people wanting mitigation measures in schools to keep them open actually wanted schools closed.

Of course, sadly, the ‘no mitigation measures’ lot got their way, and schools ended up having to close due to rampant covid.

I’ve been reading the leaked chat logs from the anti-lockdown lot that came under the Hart umbrella - Us4Them and the like.

The amount of political lobbying, meetings with MPs, contacts with friendly journalists they did to ensure the lack of mitigation measures in schools that led to them having to close is incredible.

My main classroom, as I have said many times on MN has no windows and a door on to a corridor. Not sure where a can do attitude gets me there...
Get digging? A wee tunnel would help you get some fresh air.
Enjoying the blinds talk. I could talk about them all day. We have the type with individual strats that fall off their hooks with the slightest breeze. The ventilation (aka massive winds) in my room have knackered the lot of them. So in the summer when it wasn't windy and dark the pupils couldn't read the screen. Oh well.
Which poster wrote that they never heard suggestions of how to fix problems? There were so many teachers explaining more eloquently than I could what mitigations would help. Over and over. (Into the void, clearly).

I'll dig a tunnel if Steve McQueen gives me a hand !