People refusing the vaccine why do defensive?

[fertilitybs]

I know a few people refusing the vaccine.

Whenever it comes up in conversation they her VERY argumentative, even though I haven't started any arguments and am actually quite respectful of peoples choice to not take it.

My question is, why are those not taking the vaccine getting so weird about it? If you're going to decide not to take it you should own your decisions.

Also people not taking it appear very entitled - want their cake and eat it. Still want to go nightclubs but still don't want the vaccine.

Can't have it both ways, you're also not being forced. I have no idea why people not taking the vaccine think this?

Anyway just a rant based on a recent disagreement with a family member.

Feel free to share your experience with me!

You don't sound very respectful or understanding if you're here to rant after arguing with a family member about it.

I am vaccinated, but I suspect the defensiveness comes from people constantly having a go at them and the massively pro-vaccine agenda being pushed. I completely disagree with vaccine passports - no medical procedure should be compulsory in order to live life in a normal way - it is coercion if the only choices are take the vaccine or be excluded.

I'm not

I believe there should be consequences to your choices - just like some countries have always not admitted people for not taking certain vaccinations for example. It's nothing new

@xXOXOx

I'm not

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I'm not having it at the moment as I'm on thyroxine from having thyroid cancer 10 years ago and I'm just a bit worried about the lack of long term data regarding thyroid conditions. I'm not saying I'm never going to have it, just not at the moment. I think it's a sensitive subject because people seem to have extreme views either way. I respect people whether they want it or not. Individual choice.

@fertilitybs

I believe there should be consequences to your choices - just like some countries have always not admitted people for not taking certain vaccinations for example. It's nothing new

As long as you agree with whoever's setting those consequences of course.

I'm not having the vaccine, I'm not defensive about it or entitled. Firstly I was planning on getting the vaccine after my pregnancy but now have decided against it altogether. It's definitely coercion not letting people into nightclubs etc, I don't believe young healthy people should need to take a vaccine that is in trials until 2023 when they don't know the long term effects. I'm fed up of people saying it's selfish, I think it's selfish expecting people to put stuff into their body when they don't know the long term side effects. I know people who have had severe headaches, constant periods, body has went numb on one side, ear infections and drs have just tried to palm it off as a coincidence when it certainly isn't.

I think, for me (I don't know if I get defensive but this is what I feel), a lot of people are quick to say it's selfish not to have it, so that may be how others feel too. And others imply that it's foolish to risk getting Covid without the vaccine. Not a lot of people seem to ask and leave it there, in my experience.

@xXOXOx they are approved for usage - they are not under trials

@fertilitybs

I believe there should be consequences to your choices - just like some countries have always not admitted people for not taking certain vaccinations for example. It's nothing new

I believe in bodily autonomy and personal freedom. I say this as someone whose dd was very vulnerable to swine flu back in 2010, so I am not unsympathetic to those who are vulnerable, but it is wrong to coerce people into injecting something into their body and/or threaten to remove liberties and privileges if they refuse.

@fertilitybs They are approved for emergency use, they are still in trials until 2023.

[quote fertilitybs]@xXOXOx they are approved for usage - they are not under trials[/quote]
You are incorrect. They have been approved for emergency usage and are trials are still ongoing.

There does seem to be a lot of defensiveness and anger from the people who decide not to get it. I'm not sure why they seem so surprised by people's reaction to not getting it when anti vaxxers have been derided for a long time, surely they knew when they made the decision what a lot of peoples reaction would be.

I've had my 1st vaccine but not the 2 ND because I had a bad reaction to it so have decided I will not have another so I am classed as unvaccinated . The reason many people unvaccinated are like they are is because alot of people who are vaccinated can't seem to just accept that other people have made a different choice they are called anti vaxxers and some incredibly awful names so they are defensive . This government is really pushing to make everyone get vaccinated by saying you won't be able to do this or that without being double vaccinated and this then adds another stone for people to throw and those who have not been vaccinated and its really annoying . I have no issues with the people who have made the choice to be vaccinated it's their body their choice and I've no issues with those that haven't as they have as much right to make the decision for themselves to not be . I see no reason why you should be vaccinated to do anything you can have covid having had both jabs so you could have lots of people with their covid passes carrying covid and passing it to each other who then pass it on to others . I can understand wanting a negative test that's fair enough

Maybe they’re just fed up of it ‘coming up in conversation’. I only really see it talked about on here, I don’t really talk about it in real life, people are just getting on. If you keep bringing it up, you may have your answer.

@Notthemessiah respectful and understanding are two different things. I can respect your choice but still disagree and not understand it

@SupermanWithTheGreyHair I didn't bring it up, another person did and only to discuss their experience and then all hell broke loose

Because of people like you

I can respect your choice but still disagree and not understand it

You can disagree. You don’t have to understand it.

You've made it fairly clear you neither understand or respect it - if you did respect it, you wouldn't be here arguing about it.

[quote fertilitybs]@xXOXOx they are approved for usage - they are not under trials[/quote]
They are approved for emergency usage only. They will be fully approved in 2023, and will still be under trials until then.

@fertilitybs

I believe there should be consequences to your choices - just like some countries have always not admitted people for not taking certain vaccinations for example. It's nothing new

Do you think that everybody should hold the same belief as you? If so, why?

@Notthemessiah I genuinely do respect it but correct I don't understand it they're two separate things.

What I don't respect is that people think the can refuse it and not have a consequence.

In the same way that if I am more likely to transmit a deadly disease (which although you can still transmit with a vaccine it lowers the chances) - I understand some venues wont want me inside. I have no idea why someone wouldn't understand that.