Is anyone NOT getting the vaccine?

[JC2021]

Anyone on here choosing not to receive the covid-19 vaccine?

I am undecided, but resistant.

My reasons; you can still become infected and spread the virus. How sick you might become would depend on your immunity, your age/health.

So, in my mind the only good the vaccine 'may' do (no guarantees) is prevent you getting very ill. Although, even this is still not guaranteed.

So the vaccine may reduce the change of you becoming really ill.

Fully vaccinated people can still spread the virus unknowingly to others, the same as unvaccinated.

Views?

@loulouljh

A good friend from uni (now an academic) worked on the Oxford/AZ vaccine. Are they part of the government bit of your conspiracy theory or the bigpharma bit? Just curious.

Brilliant post.

@loulouljh

I am not having it. All this co-ercion is making me even more sure that my decision is the right one. No come back if it all goes wrong, masses of people with life changing injuries as a result. the vaxxed getting more ill than the unvaxxed. Will be endless boosters etc being pumped into your body. Plenty of reasons to not have it.

Surely this is just classic... 'Cutting your nose off to spite your face.'

Gene therapy? Someone's been sipping from the anti vax conspiracy cup.

@ichundich

Brilliant post.

Not the OP. Typical quotation fail.

Gene therapy? What's co-ercion?

You don't sound particularly bright to be honest.

I love the seatbelt/car crash post. When I was a teenager i wore a seat belt for the first time. I was in the passenger's seat and we had a head on crash. A passenger in the back seat was thrown into the back of my seat which pushed me forward and i received a face full of shattered windscreen glass. The crash was 100% the fault of the other vehicle. (overtook on a blind corner). So i always wear a seat belt, it's the law anyway now. And yes I've had both my covid injections, Pfizzer. But i digress.....

I don't see how people are being "forced" to get it? You can choose. There will be consequences if you don't have it, at least for now, because we are in a pandemic and by choosing to be unvaccinated, transmission needs to be controlled through other means (restricted travel, isolating etc). That's just how it is. And vaccines are routinely pushed- from literally before a baby is born, mothers get told to have whooping cough and flu immunisations. Then the vaccine schedule starts at 8 WEEKS old and continues into secondary school. I mean, surely if the government were wanting to do whatever the heck it is people think they are doing (tracking? Killing us off? Idk), they could do so very easily and systematically, and could have been doing it for years, through the vaccination schedule that already exists. I just don't think every government in the world somehow managed to pull off a fake pandemic purely to be able to inject people with some mystery substance for nefarious reasons, when a) there would surely be an easier way to do it b) it would have required a lot of cooperation and collaboration between governments that don't get on well/couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery and c) surely such a masterminded plan wouldn't have been immediately solved by randoms on the Internet who are freely and loudly sharing huge amounts of (mis)information/opinions about it online - wouldn't that shit get shut down? I don't know. Get the vaccine or don't get the vaccine. Maybe it will bring the pandemic to an end or maybe it will end up useless in the face of another variant. I just don't believe it's some huge conspiracy theory.

Love the insults guys! No conspiracy theories no. and why in earth am I cutting my nose off! I don't want the jab! I am comfortable with that! More than comfortable. And pretty bright too!!! Sorry to disappoint..

[quote OhDear2200]@JesusInTheCabbageVan I can link you to a really good article on Facebook by a real car engineer who’ll prove that seat belts are not safe at all. I also know a neighbours, cousin, half uncle who was killed while wearing a seatbelt.[/quote]
Lol! She was agreeing with her

Mumsnet's becoming as bad as Facebook and Twitter for crackpot antivaxxers wheezing on.

@JC2021

I have suffered with blood clots before and required thinning medication

Drip feed...

Obviously you need to talk to a doctor about weighing up the vaccine pros and cons then.

I delayed mine, basically because I massively overthought it and tied myself up in so many knots I couldn't come to a decision I felt happy with. I've just had to accept that there are risks either way now and that I can't just keep swinging between having it and not having it, shit or get off the pot essentially. So I've had mine and I'm avoiding any more weighing-up, it's done now and I'm glad not to be carrying round the weight of the decision anymore tbh.

@EnjoyingTheSunshine

I'm getting it and I'm currently 7 weeks pregnant. I don't fancy getting a bad case of Covid, which would be a greater danger to me and my unborn child than the vaccination.

Why would you do it at 7 weeks?! There's major brain development going on then. Why risk it? At least wait until your much further along.

So don't have it.

It really is that simple, don't want it, don't go and get it.

I have had both jabs and will have a booster if required. I don't understand this need to seek out affirmation for a very personal decision ?

If you have had previous health issues, I would have thought the best person to speak to, about your particular set of circumstances, would be your Doctor, not a bunch of strangers who have no insight into your medical history.

Do it or don't. I don't care either way. I'm double jabbed now and so is pretty much everyone I know. The one person I know refusing to have it is a rabid anti-vaxxer. I wish she knew how stupid she sounds but I just eyeroll and move on with my fully vaccinated life.

All I would say is that if you choose not to get it, accept the consequences quietly. Your travel will be limited, your entry to venues will be limited and people will think less of you. Nothing can stop Bojo and his cronies implementing these new laws around covid passports so no whinging if you choose to refuse this vaccine. Its your choice. Just maybe don't vote Tory next time.

Noone wants to hear the bleating about your human rights when you are quite happy to accept the protection afforded by those around you choosing to have the jabs. Medical exemption obviously applies.

The (very rare) blood clots with the AZ vaccine are a specific syndrome/reaction. Totally unconnected to "normal" DVTs. So previous DVTs are not a reason to not take the vaccine - the opposite is in fact true, given the vascular impact of Covid.

I've had both vaccines, had it for my own personal reasons not to benefit anyone else just myself. My DH doesn't want it and there's not anything in this world that would convince him otherwise even if it does stop him travelling or going to certain places. I respect whatever choice anyone makes its their business not mine I just hope people make their own decision and don't feel bullied or coerced either way.

You're about 6 months behind the curve, there have been endless discussions of views since the first vaccine was approved

There's nothing new to say, if you don't want it because it's not 100% effective then don't have it. What are you expecting people to say?
No one cn disagree with that as it's a fact

People aren't insulting you by pointing out that this is an illogical and also very selfish choice.

and people will think less of you

Only knobheads would do that! Anyone else would just respect that we can all make our own choices and concentrate on their own lives instead of judging others.

Suppose also come downs to how people see life. Plenty people go through life and happily take risks. Be it for adventure, development, achievement. Other people are like ‘no way would I ever do that’. Some people’s fear is stronger than others. When come to medicine, treatment, medication, we all take risks, there are side effects to everything even food you consume, air you breath. I am all for any vaccines. But then my dad lost his mum when he was 3 to polio. A year later there was a vaccine.

Why the vaccines aren't gene therapy myth busting
www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk/blog/why-mrna-vaccines-arent-gene-therapies/

I got double jabbed for five reasons.

1. If the virus keeps actively spreading and mutating, the chance of a new deadlier variant appearing is greater.

1. Vaccination programmes can work, look at small pox, polio ....

1. I just feel safer knowing I have some immunity to the virus. I am still distancing, hand washing and mask wearing but it just feels better for my mental health.

1. I'm not a frontline worker but I feel for those who are and I do feel some responsibility towards them to help by lowering my chances of contracting the virus.

1. The latest stas are suggesting the vaccine is working and whilst there are still hospitalisations and deaths, the awful numbers we saw in January aren't being replicated at the moment.

Just my tuppence worth