When do you think bars / restaurants will ban unvaccinated people?

[Getafuckinggripman]

Because I do think it will happen...

I don't think there's a chance in hell that businesses will voluntarily ban perfectly good customers.

They will if it eventually becomes law... or if they are deemed "unsafe" against massive chain businesses who can afford to do this. For the record I hope you're right - I'm still unjabbed!

Never. I can't have the vaccine for medical reasons. I will sue the arse off anyone who discriminates against me because of my disability.

I very much doubt it will become a blanket policy but I wouldn’t be surprised if some individual businesses try it.

Why when they are struggling and have months of little to absolute no trade would they ban someone with cash?

Why would you think they would?

I dont think it will happen either.
Could be wrong.

Uk Government is now saying that we have to accept up to 20,000 deaths from covid per year.
Some of those people will have been double vaccinated, and walking around, prior.
So cant see a ban happening, personally.

I think it will happen. It’s not far fetched.

@oohmethumb

Never. I can't have the vaccine for medical reasons. I will sue the arse off anyone who discriminates against me because of my disability.

Which prompts me to wonder how that would go in court if a business banned unvaccinated customers to offer a layer of protection to an employee who also couldn’t have the vaccine??

Just musing.

Hopefully never,

i think it's a good idea.
would attract lots more customers.
those with genuine medical exemption could have a pass.
those who just don't want it could go elsewhere, ie keep away from me.

This is happening in Northern Ireland I think. It wouldn't surprise me if it does in other UK countries as well. Although why these businesses would want to cut their trade after the year they've just had I can't imagine

@alexdgr8

i think it's a good idea. would attract lots more customers. those with genuine medical exemption could have a pass. those who just don't want it could go elsewhere, ie keep away from me.

How would it attract more customers? Those who are unconcerned enough not to have had a vaccine v those who are only prepared to go to places where it's guaranteed everyone's been jabbed. I wonder which group is the most frequent users of bars?

There is already talk / rumours about certain festivals later this year having to ask for covid passports, it will be / is already the same for air travel. There is already talk of "no jab, no job" specifically for care home or NHS workers. Eventually I think this will spill over into other work sectors, not because I think employers or hospitality businesses will WANT to do this. But the pressure to follow suit will be sky high in my opinion. Again... I don't want this to happen!! I'm just wondering if anyone has the same fears.

IME the people who go to bars normally are the ones least likely to be vaccinated. Why would they keep them out? What's the point in being vaccinated if you are still anxious about getting covid

No chance this will happen.
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We have a lovely local character pub. In normal times you have to battle your way through a very busy bar to order food/drinks for bar area and outside. Throughout people in our borough have been extremely careful and I can't see many wanting to stand in the bar area. The pub either have to continue with app order/table service for outside (which actually I think some will continue with as it'll be popular) or it might be the case that it's only vaccinated and those with exemption. I'd certainly feel much more comfortable with that.

There is already talk / rumours about certain festivals later this year having to ask for covid passports, it will be / is already the same for air travel. There is already talk of "no jab, no job" specifically for care home or NHS workers. Eventually I think this will spill over into other work sectors, not because I think employers or hospitality businesses will WANT to do this. But the pressure to follow suit will be sky high in my opinion. Again... I don't want this to happen!! I'm just wondering if anyone has the same fears.*

I don't think this will happen at all. I don't have fears though because I've been vaccinated. I think there may be an exemption card for those medically exempt. I think for those who would rather be protected by virtue of everyone else being sensible and having it, the govt won't be able to do anything without a massive law suit

@FflosFfantastig

This is happening in Northern Ireland I think. It wouldn't surprise me if it does in other UK countries as well. Although why these businesses would want to cut their trade after the year they've just had I can't imagine

It's Ireland that's doing this. As in the Republic of Ireland. Not Northern Ireland.

I don't know what I think about this as a policy. It's complicated. I'm all for vaccination but I'm also all for bodily autonomy. Closing certain aspects of society off to unvaccinated people feels a bit Hunger Games. Also why should it be The Ivy's/Wetherspoons'/Zizzi's/your local pub's job to establish the medical status of their customers?

It feels a bit gimmicky as a policy. Not to mention discriminatory.

I'd like to see how Ireland fares with it. My gut says it'll hang around for a bit while they get through more vaccinations, and then it'll get quietly dropped because the Irish hospitality industry doesn't like it and it doesn't actually achieve anything.

Of course they won't. They won't turn away custom, although they might well ban staff who aren't vaccinated.

The fear will be if we bring in rules like the US ones where those who are vaccinated don't need to isolate for 10 days after a confirmed contact with someone with covid but unvaccinated do, why would you risk having staff out and screw up your rotas when you could insist on only hiring people who have already been jabbed?

But customers would only be a risk to themselves.

@oohmethumb

Never. I can't have the vaccine for medical reasons. I will sue the arse off anyone who discriminates against me because of my disability.

Same here

@alexdgr8

i think it's a good idea. would attract lots more customers. those with genuine medical exemption could have a pass. those who just don't want it could go elsewhere, ie keep away from me.

You know vaccinated people can carry and pass the virus to you?

Just seen in the news
Ireland to restrict indoor dining and bars to fully vaccinated people

Ah yes @BIoodyStupidJohnson sorry my mistake, ROI. I think it might creep in as 'the norm'...

People are vastly overestimating the protection the vaccines give them both from others and for themselves. So far we think it cuts transmission by UP TO 50%. It makes hospital admission v unlikely. It doesn’t necessarily stop you getting covid or passing it on. It helps, it’s important but it’s no guarantee of anything

I really don't understand these threads tbh.
You have had your vaccine right? So what is the issue with having the unvaxxed around? You've done your bit to help stop the spread.

I remember last year millions of threads about the great unmasked and the utter delight from some weirdos at the mere thought of those who couldn't wear one would not allowed out. Or that they would need some fictional letter/card from their gp to show any nosy fucker who wanted to know their personal circumstances as these things would have to show all relevant health issues..
How they would be turned away from places left, right and centre. Okay it became sort of law, however with so many exceptions it wasn't really worth it. There's been countless threads ever since about the unmasked out and about.

Why not go one further and have flu vax venues that ban everyone who hasn't had it?