4000 women report period problems following vaccine

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I've just seen this on my Apple News but can't view it as I don't have a premium subscription. Has anyone read the full article? Is there someone similar that this information has been published? I'm really interested in what it says and what is going to be done - if anything?

The problem is many women won't link the two. I have spoken to two different women about this who both had messed up periods after but never linked it to the vaccine until I mentioned it.
If you are taking contraception that stops periods, nearing or in menopause, have irregular periods anyway you might not link your situation to the vaccine. I suspect that it is much more common that reported because people aren't reporting/linking it. Also we are only just now vaccinating younger people- 4 week cycle means you need 4weeks to know if you cycle is disrupted so we will only just be finding out.

@lovelybitofsquirrell

I'm TTC. Had vaccine on the Monday (2 weeks ago) due to ovulate on the Wednesday. Doing opks daily and haven't ovulated since.

This is my worse nightmare and why I've not had my vaccine yet. I had two miscarriages in December and March so desperate to get pregnant again and don't want to risk my cycles being messed up.

@KFB1978 you can’t possibly know that ‘any illness is a coincidence’. Thousands of women with either very regular cycles or no period for years having noticeable changes only in the month after they get a vaccination? That’s a reportable fact, and should be investigated.
Women deserve to know if there is a possible side-effect specific to us, and writing off something being experienced by so many as ‘coincidence’ is lazy and quite patronising. For me, knowing my cycle may be affected for a month or two wouldn’t change whether I got the jab or not, I’d just have been better prepared for the outcome.

[quote BoPeeple]@Sunbird24

This news story really concerns me. Anyone else? It feels like more medical gaslighting.

‘Coincidence’?

‘There’s no evidence to suggest that the vaccine affects fertility’.

Really? How the hell do they know that when the vaccine has only been offered to women of childbearing age for a couple of months?

I’ve had my vaccine but I have serious misgivings about how we’re being fobbed off about the potential side effects.[/quote]
It's the same as saying it's safe to have in pregnancy when no babies have been born yet whose mother had the vaccine during the first trimester. It seems like they are just assuming a lot of things and trying to dismiss anything that looks like it might put people off having the vaccine. Especially concerning as these side effects only affect women. Like a pp said, if main were affected this would be being taken much more seriously.

Where are we meant to report this? It's definitely more than 4000

Ah Yellow Card. Thanks I'll be on there!

I missed a period and now am getting them twice a month. Where before I was generally light I'm now so heavy. I've bled all over my bed despite wearing a pad. Keep flooding and it's so so heavy. Pain is worse too.

Is there any info about what happens to periods if you're also on the pill? Before the pill, my periods were earth shatteringly painful and ridiculously heavy. On the mini pill, they are practically non existent and I only get like 3 in a year. Interested to know if I should expect my old periods to make a reappearance after my jab (which is later this week)

Oh just saw some PP have mentioned their POP and Pfizer. That's good to know. I'll be prepared!

The article saying it's just a coincidence is a slap in the face. There's no way that painful heavy bleeding, flooding, delayed periods in extremely regular women and post menopausal bleeding are all just a coincidence. It's shamefully dismissive and medical gaslighting. Perhaps there is really nothing to be concerned with. But it doesn't mean that it all doesn't deserve to be looked into more and anything serious ruled out.

And the poster who said this post should be removed should also be ashamed. Trying to silence genuinely concerned women after actual evidence of me track irregularities. Did you happen to write the Coincidence article as well??

Has anyone seen Erin Brockovich or Dark Waters before? Just saying.... maybe one day this will all be nothing. But maybe one day it won't

I think the stats are far higher
In my circle of female friends and colleagues over half who are pre menopausal have had some problems
Some severe enough to warrant medical intervention
None of them have reported as like many no one seems to care when it’s period related

@WhatMattersMost what I don’t understand is - why - a simple fact check on the authors of that article - would show exactly why that science is very controversial.

If you post something on a thread like this that could potentially cause more confusion, distrust and fear - how is that helpful?

I’m not saying unherd should not be read - but if you choose to read it and share authors - with potentially MORE bias/less well regulated than MSM - isn’t it important to give that context when you share?

And - certain more radical authors are receiving bans from Twitter (Wolf etc) - because it’s too controversial/fake news/harmful/too much of a biased agenda. And isn’t unherd just following a similar type of path?

I’ll put that to you as well @winched. Did you REALLY not fact check that article/authors?

I reported my issue to yellow card and told the vaccine people when I went for my second dose. They actually did seem interested and didn't dismiss me.

Glad others are reporting.

[quote Hornbill123456789]@WhatMattersMost what I don’t understand is - why - a simple fact check on the authors of that article - would show exactly why that science is very controversial.

If you post something on a thread like this that could potentially cause more confusion, distrust and fear - how is that helpful?

I’m not saying unherd should not be read - but if you choose to read it and share authors - with potentially MORE bias/less well regulated than MSM - isn’t it important to give that context when you share?

And - certain more radical authors are receiving bans from Twitter (Wolf etc) - because it’s too controversial/fake news/harmful/too much of a biased agenda. And isn’t unherd just following a similar type of path?

I’ll put that to you as well @winched. Did you REALLY not fact check that article/authors?[/quote]
You must be mistaking me: I didn't share anything apart from my thoughts, and I'm asking questions rather than making pronouncements about what is true and what isn't. I'll add that I don't believe that all things that are banned are equal, though.

The only thing that I've read/watched that has been cited here is the video with Bret Weinstein, btw. I have no opinion on anything else.

@WhatMattersMost I didn’t mean ‘you’ specifically. It was a generic ‘you’.

[quote Hornbill123456789]@WhatMattersMost I didn’t mean ‘you’ specifically. It was a generic ‘you’.[/quote]
Thanks for the clarification: that makes more sense.

I've always had heavy periods, but since first AZ jab, my cycle is a few days shorter and even with a tampon and maternity pad, I can't move very far from a toilet on one of the days. Period used to be six days and is now five. Had 2nd jab recently so will see what happens. However, pre-covid, going on flights also marginally affected the next cycle too. I didn't bother reporting as thought it was a known side effect, maybe I'll report too.

This was on woman's hour a little while ago:

twitter.com/bbcwomanshour/status/1398266074861297665?s=21

Apparently some other vaccines can affect periods, as can some normal illnesses and viruses. We don't normally tune into it that much, all together.

It should be normal after a couple of cycles.

It takes 3 months for any changes to nutrition such as supplements or reducing alcohol to impact egg or sperm quality; so it doesn't seem unusual for a vaccine like this, that everyone is taking at once to show this side effect for a couple of cycles.

Somewhere there was research on ace receptors in the ovaries too, which could also be a connected reason (this is in relation to the actual infection not the vaccine.)

It doesn't mean that this shouldn't be reported or taken seriously though, and more research is definitely needed. As in all areas of woman's healthcare. Not least as I was told by an nhs director who's been organising the vaccine rollout that some women have been avoiding it or avoiding second doses due to concerns about fertility.

Flu vaccine known to reduce progesterone which can lead to heavier period for a cycle or two apparently.

Menstrual cycle is a inflammatory process too so anything that affects inflammation could impact.

@WarriorN

Flu vaccine known to reduce progesterone which can lead to heavier period for a cycle or two apparently.

Menstrual cycle is a inflammatory process too so anything that affects inflammation could impact.

Surely we would have a general idea if some post menopausal women started bleeding after flu vaccines right or that it can affect cycles?

@WarriorN that is exactly the sort of information I've been looking for! Thank you very much for sharing.
I was aware that stress and being poorly can affect periods from general knowledge and personal experience but have zero knowledge about general or specific vaccinations in relation to this.

As there are external factors such as these that produce changes in periods hence in fertile days, I also wonder how such events impact on hormonal contraception. Does contraception override such events or is it greatly reduced because of them? I have no idea and, perhaps there should be a whole new thread on this topic.
Avoiding unwanted pregnancy is as important to some women as trying to conceive is to others. Two different aspects but of great importance at different stages in women's lives.

@DoTheNextRightThing

Is there any info about what happens to periods if you're also on the pill? Before the pill, my periods were earth shatteringly painful and ridiculously heavy. On the mini pill, they are practically non existent and I only get like 3 in a year. Interested to know if I should expect my old periods to make a reappearance after my jab (which is later this week)

I take the mini pill religiously at the exact same time every day. I very, very rarely forget the time so maybe once every three years due to my forgetfulness I get a very light period for a day or so. Otherwise I never get any kind of spotting or bleeding. After the Pfizer vaccine I had light bleeding for a few days and I was not late by even 5 minutes in taking the daily mini pill. Maybe the vaccine or rather my body's response to the vaccine caused this to happen. Maybe it was just a coincidence.

I asked the doctor at the vaccination site if I need to take any further contraception precautions afterwards and he said no and I should carry on as normal. I was actually extra careful for about three weeks following the vaccine only because I don't fully understand the mechanism and potential interactions so I thought it was better to be safe just in case and it wasn't any hardship after all so why not be a bit cautious.

[quote Sunbird24]@KFB1978 you can’t possibly know that ‘any illness is a coincidence’. Thousands of women with either very regular cycles or no period for years having noticeable changes only in the month after they get a vaccination? That’s a reportable fact, and should be investigated.
Women deserve to know if there is a possible side-effect specific to us, and writing off something being experienced by so many as ‘coincidence’ is lazy and quite patronising. For me, knowing my cycle may be affected for a month or two wouldn’t change whether I got the jab or not, I’d just have been better prepared for the outcome.[/quote]
Sorry you took my post seriously. It was piss take in case anyone else missed it.

I have reported extreme levels of period pain on yellow card. Regular painkillers couldn't touch it. Painful to the point of being light headed and vomiting.

I really shy away from conflict, but @Hornbill123456789 I really have to say something.

You keep dismissing people's views as conspiracy theory and misinformation, even when there are genuine and statistical causes for concern. You keep 'fact checking' linked articles, saying 'but did you know one of the authors has ties to/once worked with/has been published on such-and-such a dubious person/platform' and then throw up info on that OTHER person or thing- it's largely irrelevant to what the actual person is saying in the article originally linked, but is a good way of just making the whole thing look questionable.

You also have, many many times over numerous threads, taken other poster's comments out of context or apparently misunderstood what they said, and then gone on to criticise them and even report them for what you claim they said, when it wasn't the case.

You've been repeatedly banned by MN because of this behaviour, but you just keep name changing and doing it on new threads.

I don't know why you have such a determination to police what information is or is not allowed on MN, we are all capable of reading info and making up our own minds. But your seeming obsession with this cause you've signed up to really doesn't seem healthy to me.

I very much hope your mum is recovering well from her surgery, and wish you well. But you really need to stop the constant tactics to discredit and dismiss anyone who disagrees with you- both posters and people/professionals they link to. Let people speak. If MN judges that posts are actually harmful, they'll remove them.

I certainly hope this thread is not removed, because this issue is important for women everywhere and there shouldn't be anything wrong with open and transparent discussion.