4000 women report period problems following vaccine

[WineGetsMeThroughIt]

I've just seen this on my Apple News but can't view it as I don't have a premium subscription. Has anyone read the full article? Is there someone similar that this information has been published? I'm really interested in what it says and what is going to be done - if anything?

Menopause / or Did your periods change after Covid vaccine? http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4251363-menopause-or-did-your-periods-change-after-covid-vaccine

Has anyone been collating info on menstrual changes if you have the disease, rather than the vaccine?

Mine came early after my second, but I’m peri so it could have happened anyway.

I agree about what a PP said, if it was ejaculation involved the scientists would be taking it a lot more seriously

I disagree - most people are completely unaware of the link between covid-19 and/or vaccine, and ED

www.webmd.com/lung/covid-erectile-dysfunction#1

@RoseAndRose

Has anyone been collating info on menstrual changes if you have the disease, rather than the vaccine?

This is relevant - a research group just released a pre print looking at the impact of COVID (so infection, lockdown, vaccination) on menstrual changes, summarising findings from the small number of published studies

osf.io/fxygt/

@RoseAndRose

Has anyone been collating info on menstrual changes if you have the disease, rather than the vaccine?

That will probably be added to the ongoing data collection. Interim will be published regularly, as usual.

It's worth keeping an eye out for the next set.

"There have been a small number of scientific studies of variable quality reporting on menstrual cycle features during the pandemic, but it is still unclear whether apparent changes are due to COVID-19 infection/illness itself, or other pandemic-related factors like increased psychological stress and changes in health behaviours.It is also unclear to what degree current findings are explained by reporting bias, recall bias, selection bias and confoundingfactors.Further research is urgently needed. We provide a list of outstanding research questions and potential approaches to address them."

I disagree - most people are completely unaware of the link between covid-19 and/or vaccine, and ED.

Wow. I was certainly unaware of that.

It should be widely publicised. It might make some make vax refusers think again.

The headline is from MHRA data, so as always, they'll be wanting to first examine whether these rates are higher than a comparable unvaccinated population of women before suggesting a causal link. Info from article below:

Official data, obtained by The Sunday Times, show that the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) received 2,734 reports of period problems linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine, 1,158 related to the Pfizer jab, and 66 linked to the Moderna vaccine up to May 17.

The issue, typically involving “heavier than usual” bleeding, could have affected many more women who would not have thought to report their experience. The majority of issues were reported in women aged between 30 and 49.

Asked why the problems had not been added to the official list of possible side effects of the Covid-19 vaccines, the MHRA said a review with experts had found that there was no need to do so. The “current evidence” did not suggest an “increased risk” of period problems after the jab, it said, but it had published information on reports of menstrual disorders in its weekly report on adverse reactions.

I watched a video with one of the inventors of mRNA technology, in which a Japanese scientific paper was referenced showing that 48 hours post Pfizer vaccination, ovaries are the site of highest level of accumulation of the lipid nanoparticles used to encapsulate the RNA in the vaccine. This apparently was completely unexpected, and he said quite concerning.

@Backyard72

I watched a video with one of the inventors of mRNA technology, in which a Japanese scientific paper was referenced showing that 48 hours post Pfizer vaccination, ovaries are the site of highest level of accumulation of the lipid nanoparticles used to encapsulate the RNA in the vaccine. This apparently was completely unexpected, and he said quite concerning.

So what does that mean? 😕

Anyway, both my sister and I had issues with our cycles after our first AZ vaccine. Her cycles were incredibly short for a few months after and mine were longer with irregular bleeding during my af. Neither of us had an issue after the second dose.

@speckledostrichegg

The headline is from MHRA data, so as always, they'll be wanting to first examine whether these rates are higher than a comparable unvaccinated population of women before suggesting a causal link. Info from article below:

Official data, obtained by The Sunday Times, show that the Medicines & Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) received 2,734 reports of period problems linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine, 1,158 related to the Pfizer jab, and 66 linked to the Moderna vaccine up to May 17.

The issue, typically involving “heavier than usual” bleeding, could have affected many more women who would not have thought to report their experience. The majority of issues were reported in women aged between 30 and 49.

Asked why the problems had not been added to the official list of possible side effects of the Covid-19 vaccines, the MHRA said a review with experts had found that there was no need to do so. The “current evidence” did not suggest an “increased risk” of period problems after the jab, it said, but it had published information on reports of menstrual disorders in its weekly report on adverse reactions.

Thank you for this. Although I'm not sure I agree with the last bit in the article about not needing to worry about it. Seems quite dismissive

@Backyard72

I watched a video with one of the inventors of mRNA technology, in which a Japanese scientific paper was referenced showing that 48 hours post Pfizer vaccination, ovaries are the site of highest level of accumulation of the lipid nanoparticles used to encapsulate the RNA in the vaccine. This apparently was completely unexpected, and he said quite concerning.

That is very worrying. I'd be interested to know which documentary it was and if there's any further research on it

@WineGetsMeThroughIt I'm pretty sure this is a clipped version of what was a 2+ hour long podcast.

I saw it mentioned on reddit and tried to find info about the credentials behind the guy in white (Dr Robert Malone, who are they are claiming is one of the inventors behind mRNA vaccine technology). Couldn't find anything 'dodgy' on him except stuff about mRNA technology dating back years. (If anyone else does find something I'd welcome it)

However the guy who runs the podcast - there was some talk on reddit statistics that he's been guilty of doing weird calculations in the past (or at least drawing strange conclusions) regarding a covid in pregnancy study.

So... as with everything on the internet take it with a massive grain of salt and check for biases.

I was completely on time and normal after first vaccine, and before that my periods were clockwork every 28 days since forever. However, my period is now 2 weeks late after second dose which was 3 weeks ago..... but, I haven't yellow carded because I am 56, and I am presuming menopausal. I suspect quite a few in my age range may be the same. Shall I yellow card?

I heard about this.

Mine came right on time.

Agree with PPs who said that the attitude is dismissive. Smacks of ‘women’s problems’ not being seen as serious.

I only knew to yellow card because of threads on mumsnet. I think I would have dismissed my messed up cycle otherwise, even though I'm usually fairly regular. I'd have put it down to being 42.

@Flyonawalk

Agree with PPs who said that the attitude is dismissive. Smacks of ‘women’s problems’ not being seen as serious.

Although I'm not sure I agree with the last bit in the article about not needing to worry about it. Seems quite dismissive

But it doesn't look like they say that anywhere in the article?

They're stressing that right now they don't know if it's causal or not, and more research is needed, and that they'll continue to monitor it.

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After reviewing the reports, Sarah Branch, MHRA’s director of vigilance and risk management of medicines, said the evidence “does not suggest an increased risk, following vaccination, with the UK’s three Covid-19 vaccines”.

She added: “The number of reports is low in relation to the number of women who have had the vaccine to date and the background rate of menstrual disorders generally. We continue to closely monitor these reports for potential signals.”

Dr Sue Ward,vice-president of the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists (RCOG), said: “Anecdotally some women seem to be reporting heavier periods after receiving the Covid-19 vaccine and we would support more data collection in this area to understand why this might be the case. If you do notice any bleeding that is unusual for you, we would recommend you contact your doctor.”

I had my first dose a month ago and am due my period in a few days, so I don't know yet if my cycle is altered, but what did happen to me a week ago was some spotting around ovulation time. This has never happened to me before, so I was quite scared as to what it might indicate, until I remembered it could be linked to the vaccine. They should make an effort to make sure these side effects are more well-known, as it can be quite scary when the unexpected occurs. Thanks to Mumsnet I knew about this and I also reported on the Yellow card website.
coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/

The coronavirus has an affinity for ACE II receptors, I understand, and these are found in a large number on adult ovaries and testicles.

academic.oup.com/molehr/article/26/6/367/5828941?login=true

I would be a lot more worried about the impact of covid on ovaries and testicles than the impact of the vaccination.

Apparently menstrual disruption can happen with other vaccines too - I can’t remember where I read that now but someone else may have seen it! Think it was a bbc article, seemed to say it’s nothing to worry about.

I haven't had my vaccine yet, but it wouldn't have even occurred to me to tell anyone if it gave me menstrual problems, I'm so used to them not being taken seriously anyway.

So sick of this issue being dismissed.

Serious gynaecological illnesses that involve blood clots include endometriosis and adymyosis.

Some vaccines are creating additional health issues (and death) involving blood clots. As recorded by government measurements.

It makes sense for women to be informed - and cautious.

Send off yellow warning reports.