Time to move on

Overthebow · 10/06/2021 19:53

Yes I agree, I think it’s time to move on and get back to normal. To be honest apart from the obvious closed things everyone I know is pretty much back to normal now, seeing people inside and meals out etc.

prettyvisitor · 10/06/2021 19:54

Agreed.

lifeinlimbo2020 · 10/06/2021 19:57

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MonsterMash2210 · 10/06/2021 20:05

We will have to move on live with the virus at some point.

The virus is not going anywhere, so we need to find a way to coexist with it.

SonnetForSpring · 10/06/2021 20:08

If only it were that simple!

SausageFrog · 10/06/2021 20:08

Once everyone has the chance to be double vaccinated, yes. Not there yet.

GeorgeandHarold66 · 10/06/2021 20:13

I agree, once everybody who wants it has had both vaccines then we need to just get on with it. We don't obsessively look up the stats for other medical conditions or how many deaths have been recorded that particular day and we need to stop doing it now.

Gemzee · 10/06/2021 20:17

Agreed 100%

HazeyJaneII · 10/06/2021 20:18

I'd quite like to see clinically vulnerable children, like my ds, vaccinated....they seem to have been rather forgotten about.

Allmyarseandpeggymartin · 10/06/2021 20:19

@GeorgeandHarold66 Totally agree - I actually think it would do some people good to hear the numbers in context - “1600 people died in the uk today - 70 road deaths…400 cancer deaths…150 respiratory disease…7 Covid”

secretllama · 10/06/2021 21:08

Agree. Life is for living not existing.

Roonerspismed · 10/06/2021 21:10

So much. People aren’t dying.

takemetocedarpoint · 10/06/2021 21:12

I agree but only once everyone who wants to has been double vaccinated. I was listening to a great podcast today. It had chise (of Twitter fame: @sailorooscout is her handle I think). She’s a molecular biologist who worked on the Moderna vaccine and explained the situation really well. Basically if there’s a lot of uptake in vaccines she thinks that whilst covid won’t go away, it’ll become more like a milder flu or cold for most people like one of the other human coronaviruses. That would be amazing and I think every person vaccinated helps us all.

PicsInRed · 10/06/2021 21:15

Agreed. The level of fear and anxiety vs the residual danger (respective to what we've usually dealt with from epidemics including flu, RSV, measles, and whooping cough) is now at the level of a mass mental illness. What is really unacceptable is that it has all been entirely intentional - "project fear", to keep people in their homes. We are now faced with the tricky business of attempting to "detraumatise" those people to get society functioning properly again.

thecatsatonthewall · 10/06/2021 21:15

We can't fully, because most of the world hasn't been vaccinated and by that i mean we seem to have little control on our borders, we can't go on holiday and CV will mutate.

I know for some not travelling is a minor inconvenience but not for me and not for the millions who work in travel, now stuck on furlough, most wont have the money to take advantage of few restrictions.

Flyonawalk · 10/06/2021 22:47

@Allmyarseandpeggymartin That’s an excellent idea. Some context in the death figures, so people are aware that well over a thousand people die daily in the U.K., and that covid deaths are tiny.

garlictwist · 10/06/2021 22:53

I didn't really know anyone who had covid last year apart from those that worked on the front line but now it's spreading through my friends like wild fire - four of them this week. I do wonder if opening up is the right thing but equally we can't hide away forever.

Ostara212 · 10/06/2021 22:57

@garlictwist

I didn't really know anyone who had covid last year apart from those that worked on the front line but now it's spreading through my friends like wild fire - four of them this week. I do wonder if opening up is the right thing but equally we can't hide away forever.

Are they very ill? I do hope not.

Sunny360 · 10/06/2021 22:57

Absolutely 100% and I totally agree with @PicsInRed comments

ChocOrange1 · 11/06/2021 06:19

@garlictwist

I didn't really know anyone who had covid last year apart from those that worked on the front line but now it's spreading through my friends like wild fire - four of them this week. I do wonder if opening up is the right thing but equally we can't hide away forever.

Are your friends OK?

PracticingPerson · 11/06/2021 06:29

@Clotsaway

This virus is here to stay and will always be around. So my question is, do we as a country move on once we are all vaccinated and get on with life as it were pre pandemic. Go out with friends, no face masks, travel Internationally and enjoy holidays, no bubbles at work or school. Not isolating untill we have a negative test ect ect. Or are we OK with going back a step everytime a new mutation pops up.

Personally for me, I think as this is around forever now and eventually will be controlled, I want things to go back to normal normal not go back a few steps if a variant appear. We can't evade them all and eventually one will evade the vaccines to an extent, but to lock the country up as we have and are doing, it's intolerable.

Well, it's a point of view. It is based on ignorance but there you go.

I'm sick of reading the same ill-informed, unscientific fantasy drivel.

Sorry for not being more polite about it, but this just isn't a sane option. Yes we can ramp things down gradually but your suggested approach is stupid.

People comparing it measles are just given the relative infection rates and vaccination status.

chaosrabbitland · 11/06/2021 06:40

@GeorgeandHarold66

I agree, once everybody who wants it has had both vaccines then we need to just get on with it. We don't obsessively look up the stats for other medical conditions or how many deaths have been recorded that particular day and we need to stop doing it now.

yes this is how i feel . you have saved me typing my own reply to the ops post , im sick to death of it now and i just want everything back to normal as soon as possible . iv had first dose as soon as iv had my 2nd , thats it , im not wearing a mask anymore struggling to breathe at work all the time and in shops , iv been responsible so far , but we were told vaccines were our way out , so once everybody that wants to be is double dosed theres no more reason for this blasted gov to keep on banging on about restrictions anymore . and yes how many are now dying of cancer because their treatment was delayed or stopped because of covid ,but its only the press that mentions that never the gov though , that wouldnt suit the agenda , it might divirt us away from freaking out about the new scarients , o sorry i meant new varients that they keep banging on about , a nepal one was in the papers last week , im betting if they delay june 21 . then just as we might be back to normal in july then a monglolian one will appear !! well it would seem i have actually typed out my own reply to the ops post without meaning to , sigh ,well thats my rant over anyway lol

chaosrabbitland · 11/06/2021 06:45

@PicsInRed

Agreed. The level of fear and anxiety vs the residual danger (respective to what we've usually dealt with from epidemics including flu, RSV, measles, and whooping cough) is now at the level of a mass mental illness. What is really unacceptable is that it has all been entirely intentional - "project fear", to keep people in their homes. We are now faced with the tricky business of attempting to "detraumatise" those people to get society functioning properly again.

yes , my mum is 84 ,had both her doses and yet is still in fear of it , i can see her still wearing a mask and going on about hand sanitiser this time next year sadly , i on the other hand will not be . im not living in fucking fear for the next how many years of dying of covid when i might die from a load of other illnesses and i think a lot of people feel the same . what is the point in living if we are all going to be fussing about dying all the time ? god life is too short for it

AncientandFabulous · 11/06/2021 06:59

My dc is at university & it’s rapidly going through the student population. 3 out of their house have it & several friends. Waiting for dc to catch it now They were meant to be vaccinated this week but obviously can’t now.

We are starting to get emails from other dc school to say confirmed cases.

Another friend with dcs at different university are saying same & their dc has it.

So it’s here at the moment & while numbers are rising I think caution is a good thing.

GingerandTilly · 11/06/2021 07:00

Unfortunately, I think a lot of people are acting like we’re all vaccinated now but no children have been vaccinated and they play a significant role in spreading it plus most adults have only had their first dose which only offers 33% protection. If case numbers shoot up (which they are starting to) then more people will be exposed without being fully protected. Plus those with the AZ vaccines will still only be 60% protected even after 2 doses and they tend to be our older / most vulnerable. When everyone is vaccinated then yes, I’m hoping we can be more relaxed about new variants, but we’re not there yet and are facing a highly transmissible new variant. I think everyone wants to return to normal but let’s not rush to get there before we’re ready and mess everything up again.

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-why-the-uk-is-still-some-way-short-of-herd-immunity-despite-impressive-vaccine-rollout-12328512