Time to move on

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This virus is here to stay and will always be around. So my question is, do we as a country move on once we are all vaccinated and get on with life as it were pre pandemic. Go out with friends, no face masks, travel Internationally and enjoy holidays, no bubbles at work or school. Not isolating untill we have a negative test ect ect. Or are we OK with going back a step everytime a new mutation pops up.

Personally for me, I think as this is around forever now and eventually will be controlled, I want things to go back to normal normal not go back a few steps if a variant appear. We can't evade them all and eventually one will evade the vaccines to an extent, but to lock the country up as we have and are doing, it's intolerable.

Seems ike the guardian has read my mind today, there is an article that the delta variant is in 74 countries now

Some people in mn defend the Australian model and that the UK should have done that approach, well this is not even safe "One case in point has been Australia, where a new sub-lineage of the Delta variant appears to have been responsible for new outbreaks, some apparently unrelated to imported cases identified among people in hotel quarantine."

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/14/delta-variant-of-covid-spreading-rapidly-and-detected-in-74-countries

Has the whole of the Australian population spent 13 months in lockdown yet though?

And are there 152,000 fewer of them due to covid?

Or are they still doing vastly better than the U.K.?

@PrincessNutNuts

Has the whole of the Australian population spent 13 months in lockdown yet though?

And are there 152,000 fewer of them due to covid?

Or are they still doing vastly better than the U.K.?

ask that to the Australians who had not been able to return to their country, or to the ones that keep going into lockdown for a few weeks as there is 1-2 cases in the area.

@PrincessNutNuts

Has the whole of the Australian population spent 13 months in lockdown yet though?

And are there 152,000 fewer of them due to covid?

Or are they still doing vastly better than the U.K.?

There isn't 152,000 less of us due to Covid either.

There are 152,000 less of us - true. Some due to Covid, some largely down to something else - often terminal/end of life who also had Covid.

@PrincessNutNuts

Has the whole of the Australian population spent 13 months in lockdown yet though?

And are there 152,000 fewer of them due to covid?

Or are they still doing vastly better than the U.K.?

I read that Australia has a very high level of vaccine hesitancy which means they may never reach herd immunity. That will mean they will need on and off lockdowns indefinitely as unchecked cases could spread like wildfire with so little immunity in the country.

I can't say I give a fuck about Australia. I don't live there.

Let's move on once the whole world has been vaccinated. Otherwise this is pointless. If travel is to resume, it can only happen once the rest of the world catches up. Global herd immunity, is that a thing?🤔

@HarrisMcCoo

Let's move on once the whole world has been vaccinated. Otherwise this is pointless. If travel is to resume, it can only happen once the rest of the world catches up. Global herd immunity, is that a thing?🤔

2050 then ??

Or we can go in and out of lockdowns forever EasterIsland which is it to be?🤷

I think most of us can agree there's just no simple solution to this 🙁

ask that to the Australians who had not been able to return to their country, or to the ones that keep going into lockdown for a few weeks as there is 1-2 cases in the area. I have and they are grateful their government have kept them safe, especially the healthcare workers. And we are one of the families that are being kept apart. The same in Hong Kong, and they have precious little else to say good about their government.

Yes vaccine take up is less but that is because the chances of having contact with Covid is close to zero. They are slowly getting on top of the communications challenge though. Shame we don’t get to take part in a lucky draw to win a Ferrari when we get vaccinated

If you think there is the slightest chance Boris is going to agree to endless lockdowns then you really must be in to torturing yourself. Unless he cocks up yet again, which no doubt is a possibility given we have only had the deep dark lockdowns because he cocked up before, we will be out of the uncertainty about the nature and scale of the variant by July and a lot closer to herd immunity. All the millennials I know will have two jabs by then.

@BonnesVacances

Would love to move on. Will have to wait until DD has recovered from catching Covid over a year ago and can get out of bed and go downstairs again though! FFS, it is sooooo offensive reading about how desperate people are for life to get back to 'normal' when there are a millions people in the UK suffering from Long Covid!

It's offensive because a) it minimises the poor quality of life being lived by people with Long Covid and b) people are equating that quality of life with having to live their own under some restrictions. The two really aren't comparable at all.

People saying the risk to children is tiny need to furnish themselves with actual facts, not just those they've made up or read which support their own point of view. Long Covid rates in children (and indeed adults) according to the ONS are around 10%.

Whether you think that's worthy of additional caution is up to you. It has nothing to do with me. It's too late for my DD. Would be just nice if some other DCs didn't end up living the same shitty life everyday because their parents believed some shite they've read on the internet and haven't fact-checked it for themselves.