Genuine question for anti-Vaxxers

[kiddo5467]

So I have a question for SOME of the people who are against the vaccine.

It's not really relevant for those who don't want the vaccine as they don't believe it's been tested enough and don't want to be injected with something they don't know enough about. That's not my personal view but I can at least understand the rationale behind it and see why it would out some people off.

However, I've seen more & more people posting online about it being a 'conspiracy' and the government conning us all into getting the vaccine to suit their own agenda. This is what o can't get my head around. Do some people believe the government are trying to inject us with something negative to achieve some other hidden objective? If so, what do they think they're trying to achieve? Is everyone that's had the vaccine going to be wiped out? Unable to re-produce? Be tracked but some strange fluid in our bodies??

I'm not trying to antagonise anyone, I'd genuinely like to understand what people who believe the vaccine is part of a conspiracy, believe the conspiracy is?

Well, people have died and people have ended up seriously ill in hospital due to the jab so maybe holding out for a while longer to see more long term effects.

Thanks @Remmy123 - that's the group where I completely understand the rationale and agree with their thinking.

Personally I've had both doses as I was ECV and shielding. Had I not been, I might've held off a bit longer for this reason.

My question is for those who think the vaccine is part of conspiracy....does that mean people believe that we are being deliberately injected with something for some other reason than reducing the spread of covid?

Loads of people think this. They won’t give you any reason other than ‘control’ or ‘power’ and they won’t elaborate further.

That's the kind of thing I was meaning @SamanthaChumbaMumba

I knew some people believed there was an ulterior motive but I didn't know what it was, thanks!

@Pumperthepumper

Loads of people think this. They won’t give you any reason other than ‘control’ or ‘power’ and they won’t elaborate further.

This!! That's why I felt my need to ask the question. Anytime I ask, I get told it's to 'control us' but I couldn't figure out the logic!

Lots of people are really stupid. And we live in a country where the stupid don't Starve and have internet access.

Anti vaxxers are airheads.

My auntie firmly believes there's microchips in the vaccine. And even though she's a nurse and should've had it ages ago, she refused

I wonder this, too! Like you OP, I've had my COVID vaccine, but I absolutely get the rationale of those who haven't due to testing etc.

What blows my mind is the ones that refuse the vaccine (any) because they 'don't know what's in it' and then blow coke all weekend 🙄

@SamanthaChumbaMumba

I've seen people who believe that the vaccines a re part of a de-population plan, either by making people infertile or by shortening lifespans.

Others believe that there are tiny microchips inside the vaccine. Ideas on what those chips will achieve are varied.

Also curious about the microchips, seen as though most people carry a phone which can give people all sorts of both real-time and historic data. If it was the case, you'd think pharma would be targeting countries in the developing world where mobile ownership is a lot less.

It blows my mjnd that we could develop microchips so small that they can be injected as fluid!! I'm not saying it's not possible - I have no idea - it's just crazy to think that could even be created!!

@SamanthaChumbaMumba I thought they used microchip implants in pets rather than actual liquid??!

Microchips in animals aren't a fluid, they are absolutely tiny but wouldn't fit through a standard vaccine needle sharp. Having a microchip that could be administered via a fluid isnt overly unlikely, but being able to transmit any worthwhile data reliably from it to somewhere else or for it to provide any functionality would be impossible (at the moment). Biological computing exists where people seek to utilise the human body in playing a role in the functionality of the chip, but that's a while off.

@SamanthaChumbaMumba

Lots of people are really stupid. And we live in a country where the stupid don't Starve and have internet access.

Anti vaxxers are airheads.

Almost all of the concerns I've seen have had at least one kernel of evidence to support them. Of course, that doesn't mean that everyone is correct (they can't all be correct!), but I wouldn't be so dismissive, if I were you.

Lab leak origin theorists were dismissed as conspiracy theorists and ridiculed/called racist just a few months ago. Facebook censored and deleted posts, and fact-checkers 'de-bunked' it.

And now look......

Why would anyone cover up the lab theory?

My best friend is extremely intelligent. Overachiever at school. But she won't have the vaccine and believes the government response to the pandemic is part of a grand plan to control us. I've had my jab as I teach full time in a year 1 classroom, aka petri dish with my little dinks breathing all over me, cuddling me etc. Her response has flummoxed me and I don't know what to think.

@SamanthaChumbaMumba

Why would anyone cover up the lab theory?

Seriously?!

If something had leaked from your lab and killed millions of people, is there not a slight incentive to cover that up...?

No, why would the media cover it up? Why would they do a drip-drip of hints it was possible but then SILENCE SCIENTISTS and LEAK DOCUMENTS?