Genuine question for anti-Vaxxers

[kiddo5467]

So I have a question for SOME of the people who are against the vaccine.

It's not really relevant for those who don't want the vaccine as they don't believe it's been tested enough and don't want to be injected with something they don't know enough about. That's not my personal view but I can at least understand the rationale behind it and see why it would out some people off.

However, I've seen more & more people posting online about it being a 'conspiracy' and the government conning us all into getting the vaccine to suit their own agenda. This is what o can't get my head around. Do some people believe the government are trying to inject us with something negative to achieve some other hidden objective? If so, what do they think they're trying to achieve? Is everyone that's had the vaccine going to be wiped out? Unable to re-produce? Be tracked but some strange fluid in our bodies??

I'm not trying to antagonise anyone, I'd genuinely like to understand what people who believe the vaccine is part of a conspiracy, believe the conspiracy is?

Yes I know someone who believes the vaccine makes you infertile.
Why the government/ 'they' would want to do this is beyond me!

China is also allowing people to have 3 children now so it’s kind of counter productive if their goal was to decrease the population.

@SamanthaChumbaMumba

I've seen people who believe that the vaccines a re part of a de-population plan, either by making people infertile or by shortening lifespans.

Others believe that there are tiny microchips inside the vaccine. Ideas on what those chips will achieve are varied.

Yes, if I wanted to sterilise or limit the lifespan of the population I'd start with vaccinating pensioners too 🤣

Very counter productive 😂

Senger is anti-CCP, which, if you believe what they're doing to the Uighurs is true, we all should be.

We know what they’re doing to the Uighur Muslims is true, and yes it’s a very good reason to be anti-CCP. But the problem with also throwing a load of unfounded theories at the CCP is that when those are discredited, people wonder what else has been made up. Now hopefully people would be clever enough to realise that there is plenty of evidence to prove that the atrocities committed against the Uighur people are real. Sadly though, the last year or so has shown is that a worrying amount of people don’t care to look much past the surface.

believes the government response to the pandemic is part of a grand plan to control us.

I honestly don't think this sounds too nuts. If you look at the Tory parties approval ratings, when the response gets harsher / stricter, their ratings go up. Ratings go down when they ease restrictions.

There's the questions around who benefitted financially from some of the contracts and emergency measures.

There's also the fact that literally everyone is agreement this pandemic and the financial aid has cost us a fortune. People still genuinely believe a country works like one big household. What happened the last time the household was struggling financially? Years of tory austerity and large scale approval for cutting services and benefits. The fact we've just "bankrupted ourselves" will likely give them a solid mandate to do this again, and win even more votes for it.

And then there's the fact nobody really cares about saving the NHS as much as they did in 2019. Which has always been one of their goals. Again, they've just given themselves a mandate.

To be clear - the tories obviously did not cause the pandemic (and I don't know any "conspiracy nutter" claiming they did)... but it's hardly wild to think a bunch clever people sat down, thought about how each possible response could shape the future, and went with the one most likely to benefit themselves.

Dad is into conspiracy stuff. Genuinely believes aliens exist

I think anyone who genuinely believes aliens don't exist is the conspiracy theorist

The people that put out the anti vax nonsense make massive amounts of money selling snake oil treatments as alternatives. Of they can convince people that the vaccine is dangerous more people to peddle their views, solutions etc to. Anti vax is run by so.w wealthy people getting rich on the ones below who are scared.

It makes people feel good to think they know something that us sheeple don't, great reset3, anti Big pharma ...don't tell them AZ are selling at cost and it's not about profit they won't believe it.

Andrew Wakefield has made millions of dollars and his ego is messaged by the following idiots. He is a typical narcissistic power hungry and found his followers

Massaged

It would be interesting to see a model/graph of how the situation could be today if social media had been around when vaccines were first introduced for the “standard” vaccines we accept now.

How did parents first feel when each of those vaccines were first brought out.

For those that don’t want to take it now due to it being “untested” long-term, are you grateful for those that took up “standard” vaccines all those years ago when they first came out?

For those who had those vaccines years ago, do you resent your parents for allowing you to have a vaccine that wasn’t properly “tested”?

Having watched the documentary a pp mentioned earlier, I’m gobsmacked that AW was struck off here, but is so prominent in the USA. Even more amazed that he’s been with a certain supermodel for so long (though she does have form for falling for narcissists!)

I saw on Facebook that some people genuinely believe the vaccine is to make people infertile and thus reduce the population in the UK over time. Sort of a reverse Handmaid's Tale.

I've finished having babies anyway!

It blows my mjnd that we could develop microchips so small that they can be injected as fluid!! I'm not saying it's not possible - I have no idea - it's just crazy to think that could even be created!!

Not just that they think it's a tracker! Trackers need batteries- my iPhone battery is huge and it can barely last the day. How would they get a lifetime battery in to a microscopic chip 🤷🏼‍♀️

Well fair point winched but not quite little green men communicating with nasa being kept as a huge secret!