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Will the unvaccinated have to “stay at home”

259 replies

auntpollie · 30/05/2021 09:36

I’m pregnant, due November and have decided not to have the vaccine until after baby is born.

I’m starting to worry that there will be rules for what unvaccinated people can or cannot do.

Will it be the case where you have to be vaccinated to eat / drink out, go to the hairdressers or nail salon etc....?

I don’t want to spend my time at home but I’m not comfortable being vaccinated whilst pregnant.

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Aposterhasnoname · 30/05/2021 09:40

Frankly, if we get to the point where the virus is spreading mainly amongst the unvaccinated, than I will back vaccine passports before lockdown all day long.

Sunnyfreezesushi · 30/05/2021 09:45

Typical mumsnet - the first post you get OP is really unfair and horrible. I think some people are just waiting to pounce.

I totally understand that the situation is very difficult for pregnant women. You are told that getting the virus yourself can be dangerous in pregnancy, but your instinct is to protect your baby. I suggest speaking to your GP and midwife as many times as you need to.

I had the swine flu vaccine in pregnancy and no problems. But this one, I would be worried too but I think on balance, it might make sense to have it. I think I would be the type to pay for an antibody test first.... Most people have minimal side effects from the Covid vaccines (that does not include me).

SmidgenofaPigeon · 30/05/2021 09:46

I agree with @Aposterhasnoname. I’m due in September and have had my vaccine. I will not support another lockdown if the virus is spreading mainly amongst the remaining unvaccinated population, so if you choose not to have it, and it is entirely your choice, yes I feel that the sacrifice to stay at home to avoid the virus should rest on you.

RedcurrantPuff · 30/05/2021 09:48

I don’t think so as hopefully the vaccines will drop transmission so unvaccinated people don’t present a significant risk.

User72642 · 30/05/2021 09:50

COVID could potentially affect your baby's growth. On balance, I would take the vaccine from the second trimester onwards.

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auntpollie · 30/05/2021 09:51

@SmidgenofaPigeon

I agree with *@Aposterhasnoname*. I’m due in September and have had my vaccine. I will not support another lockdown if the virus is spreading mainly amongst the remaining unvaccinated population, so if you choose not to have it, and it is entirely your choice, yes I feel that the sacrifice to stay at home to avoid the virus should rest on you.
@SmidgenofaPigeon

Really pleased you felt comfortable enough to have it.

We’ve waited a long time to be parents and I don’t feel comfortable with the risk.

Happy to have my vaccine after the birth!

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Geamhradh · 30/05/2021 09:51

Hopefully.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/05/2021 09:53

Hopefully won’t happen as it hasn’t to date- I won’t have it until I’ve stopped breastfeeding

Waxonwaxoff0 · 30/05/2021 09:53

I'm vaccinated but I hope not. I do not want to live in a country where we have that kind of dictacting behaviour and it's scary how many people on MN would be happy to see it. Ridiculous overreactions on here.

SmidgenofaPigeon · 30/05/2021 09:55

@auntpollie I’m not sure my decision or your decision needs to have anything to do with how long you’ve waited to be a parent- me having the vaccine doesn’t mean I’ve considered my baby any less than you have considered yours. You don’t know my situation in becoming pregnant either, and my journey TTC has fuck all to do with whether I think it’s right to take the vaccine or not.

As it is, I feel I’ve read enough and done crouch of my own research to think that, on balance, I’ll take a vaccine rather than be pregnant and at risk of catching covid.

SmidgenofaPigeon · 30/05/2021 09:55

*enough not crouch

Aposterhasnoname · 30/05/2021 09:55

What’s unfair and horrible is destroying businesses, livelihoods, and people’s mental health to lock down fully vaccinated people in order to protect those that have refused the vaccine. And yes, I know some people can’t have the vaccine due to their medical conditions, but if we get to the point where lockdown is being considered, they’ll need to shield anyway.

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auntpollie · 30/05/2021 09:57

[quote SmidgenofaPigeon]@auntpollie I’m not sure my decision or your decision needs to have anything to do with how long you’ve waited to be a parent- me having the vaccine doesn’t mean I’ve considered my baby any less than you have considered yours. You don’t know my situation in becoming pregnant either, and my journey TTC has fuck all to do with whether I think it’s right to take the vaccine or not.

As it is, I feel I’ve read enough and done crouch of my own research to think that, on balance, I’ll take a vaccine rather than be pregnant and at risk of catching covid.[/quote]
@SmidgenofaPigeon

Calm down.... Confused

I never suggested you hadn’t considered your baby any less.

I stated my own reasons for not taking the vaccine in pregnancy.

  • We’ve waited a long time to but parents
  • I’m not comfortable with the risk

Sorry if you’ve taken that personally, that’s not how it was intended.

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NicknamesAreLikeKleenex · 30/05/2021 09:58

It’s increasingly clear that Covid can cause problems in late pregnancy so if there’s another serious outbreak in your area and you’re not going to choose vaccination then yes you’d be well advised to stay at home. I think it’s vanishingly unlikely that you’d be ordered to though - there would be a wholescale revolt from the Tory backbenchers.

Sunnyfreezesushi · 30/05/2021 10:01

What about children? Will you back children not being educated in school if they do not have the vaccine? Cannot see government ever backing a plan to stop pregnant women from doing things, at most, perhaps advising them to shield if case numbers go up massively. Amazing how wary people are of lockdowns that they are not scared to throw away basic civil liberties.
Of course it is possible that private businesses might in the future be legally permitted to insist on vaccine passports to protect their own staff/business but eating out/nail salon/hair dressers are not essential (except for the people working in them). Many people got vaccinated thinking they could go on holiday this summer abroad and that might not happen. So OP if you really feel strongly about not having the vaccine then do what you believe in. But if you are worried about non essential services being closed to you, maybe you do not feel that strongly?

Remmy123 · 30/05/2021 10:03

I hope not and I very much doubt it

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auntpollie · 30/05/2021 10:04

@Sunnyfreezesushi

So OP if you really feel strongly about not having the vaccine then do what you believe in. But if you are worried about non essential services being closed to you, maybe you do not feel that strongly?

Or maybe I just don’t want to spend the next 6 months being excluded from certain places...

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/05/2021 10:05

@Aposterhasnoname

What’s unfair and horrible is destroying businesses, livelihoods, and people’s mental health to lock down fully vaccinated people in order to protect those that have refused the vaccine. And yes, I know some people can’t have the vaccine due to their medical conditions, but if we get to the point where lockdown is being considered, they’ll need to shield anyway.
No more unfair than locking up the entire population when the majority weren’t going to get seriously ill or die of covid!
OnlyFoolsnMothers · 30/05/2021 10:07

You have every right to choose whether to take the vaccine or not OP- but the MN bullying will No doubt try and tell you how wrong you are

Aposterhasnoname · 30/05/2021 10:08

Totally agree, and am dead set against lockdowns. But if that’s what it is decided we need to do to stop hospitals being overwhelmed, than vaccine passports are infinitely preferable IMHO.

Waxonwaxoff0 · 30/05/2021 10:10

@Aposterhasnoname

What’s unfair and horrible is destroying businesses, livelihoods, and people’s mental health to lock down fully vaccinated people in order to protect those that have refused the vaccine. And yes, I know some people can’t have the vaccine due to their medical conditions, but if we get to the point where lockdown is being considered, they’ll need to shield anyway.
Or we could just do neither.
FloraFauna27 · 30/05/2021 10:11

@auntpollie why did you tell @SmidgenofaPigeon to cam down? That’s exactly how your post read. You were the rude one here.

Samanabanana · 30/05/2021 10:13

I'm due in autumn and I've decided not to have the vaccine until baby is here. Hally to have it while breastfeeding but not while pregnant. There is no long term data to say it's safe. I had the whooping cough vaccine last week as that does have more data to suggest it's safe. I live in an area that has had high case numbers, working in a school throughout the pandemic and have not caught covid. So to me the risk of having the vaccine far outweighs the risks of not having it. I may reassess if things change. I too have had many losses and waited many years for this baby and I do not feel guilty for making the decision I have. I also don't believe that there will be any introduction of vaccine rules because where do you draw the line? You'd have to surely introduce passport vaccines for most common viruses, no?

Original poster
auntpollie · 30/05/2021 10:15

@FloraFauna27

@SmidgenofaPigeon said -

I agree with @Aposterhasnoname. I’m due in September and have had my vaccine. I will not support another lockdown if the virus is spreading mainly amongst the remaining unvaccinated population, so if you choose not to have it, and it is entirely your choice, yes I feel that the sacrifice to stay at home to avoid the virus should rest on you.

I said -

Really pleased you felt comfortable enough to have it.

We’ve waited a long time to be parents and I don’t feel comfortable with the risk.

Happy to have my vaccine after the birth!

SmidgenofaPigeon seems to have interpreted
that as me saying she cares less about her baby than I do.
Which is NOT what I said or meant!

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SmidgenofaPigeon · 30/05/2021 10:17

Well, I’m confused why you had to throw in how long you’ve waited to be parents- the implication of that is that it’s all the more precious to you and you won’t be taking the perceived risk of the vaccine, where others who may not have waited so long are more devil-may-care. That is how it read.