Will the unvaccinated have to “stay at home”

[auntpollie]

I’m pregnant, due November and have decided not to have the vaccine until after baby is born.

I’m starting to worry that there will be rules for what unvaccinated people can or cannot do.

Will it be the case where you have to be vaccinated to eat / drink out, go to the hairdressers or nail salon etc....?

I don’t want to spend my time at home but I’m not comfortable being vaccinated whilst pregnant.

Or she of course

auntpollie oh to be so lucky to be in such total ignorance of what it means to struggle to conceive!

You should thank your lucky stars traumatisednoodle that you’ve never been in OP’s shoes.

In answer to the OPs question and speculating, no, not in the UK. Though without the vaccine you may not be able to travel abroad. I wonder also if some employers where people are able to work from home will be reluctant to have unvaccinated people in their offices. Though mine have made it clear that will not be considered, only numbers and space/distancing.

Who says I have no knowlege of fertility stuggles.

@Totallydefeated

If that makes you miserable then sorry but that's your own choice

Scottishskifun what you and other who post similarly fail to empathise with is that OP and others in similar dilemmas are not blithely making a ‘choice’ as if choosing whether to have steak or fish to dinner. Or the brown shoes or the red ones. They’re being forced into a ‘choice’ they really don’t want to be making, seeing danger on both sides and finding it really worrying to be in the middle of a dilemma they see as risky either way, with an unknown outcome. It’s not a simple as you imply.

If you have read earlier posts then you would realise that I have a friend in the exact same situation who after multiple miscarriages does not wish to have the vaccination.

That's her choice but she also makes sure she doesn't put herself in any situation which increases her risk of catching covid.

The OP is saying that she would be miserable at the thought of not going to places, I simply stated she should assess the risk for herself and decide if its a situation she is comfortable with or not.

Everyone is making personal risk assessments with what they are comfortable with on a daily basis

It's peoples own choice, they aren't going to stop unvaccinated people from cafes so then it's are you comfortable being in a cafe. If yes then go ahead, if no then don't 🤷‍♂️

It's personal choice but I don't get then saying you will be miserable with your own choice! It's coming to summer anyway so outside is a lot easier anyway!

Your response to Op makes it obvious. Nobody who’s struggled to conceive and faced the possibility of time running out and if never happening for them, would ever suggest somebody should have waited to conceive when we have no idea how long the pandemic would last.

Ah, ok Scottishskifun I missed that. Yes, I would personally feel safer outside as a reasonable compromise, but of course it’s up to OP.

As soon as I saw the title of this thread I knew it would be full of nasty vultures..

Ignore the nasty comments with people deflecting their frustrations and implying you're wanting to go out raving in crowds..

I'm not having the vaccine whilst pregnant either, my choice and has nothing to do with anyone other than me and my partner. I don't care for anyone else's opinion as to whether they think I should or not. It's your own body and child and you have the right to do what's best for you. There definitely isn't enough research to be sure that it won't adversely affect an unborn baby or if it would affect baby in the future years. Not something I'm comfortable with risking. As long as we are safe and take all the precautions we have been doing so far then you will be as safe as you can be.

I really don't think they will say people who haven't been vaccinated have to be in a lockdown or restricted. It's discrimination and many people can't due to health issues. They may say people in at risk groups should shield, but again thats advice and if I were told I was at a higher risk for any reason I'd naturally want to shield anyway.

No idea how long tbe pandemic would last ? yes
But a reasonably good idea of when different age groups would be vaccinated.

Again, this just shows your utter ignorance of fertility struggles. For some women, waiting six, nine, twelve months could mean the difference between becoming a mother and never having a child. Even for younger women, when you’re struggling you’re never sure which month you might catch that one elusive golden egg. It’s unrealistic to suggest she should have waited. You don’t know her circumstance

So now you are expecting people who have fertility issues to wait and not go ahead with fertility treatment.

Absolutely disgusting

It is completely obvious that there is a substantial lack of empathy or basic understanding here.

Being absolutely nasty and vile to a mother to be is sickening

Judging her and making out she should have waited etc etc. Criticising nonstop.

I don’t want to spend my time at home but I’m not comfortable being vaccinated whilst pregnant.

But you are happy to increase your chances of getting Covid while you are pregnant? And you don’t care if you spread it about to other people during that time either

Totallydefeated
You won't believe me, but I know all about fertility treatment. We are not talking 6 or 9 months, it would have been 3 or 4. Nobodies fertility changes that much in 3 months.

@Blankspace101 vaccinated people can still spread it also

It was OP's choice to concieve, it is now her choice to remain unvaccinated. Choices have consequences.

@traumatisednoodle yes it can without a doubt

@traumatisednoodle 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Blankspace101vaccinated people can still spread it also

All the evidence suggests not.

The same as it was my choice to keep my pregnancy and to not be vaccinated.

How does it feel to you being nasty to a pregnant women who is no doubt feeling very vulnerable and anxious about her pregnancy already due to the involvement of fertility treatment?

12:47JMJTHEWEEDONKEY

Seriously how ? Unless waiting for cancer curing chemo, I don't see how and if OP was about to have chemo she would have certainly been advised to get vaccinated first.

@traumatisednoodle yes vaccinated people can still pass it on

@traumatisednoddle you stated that fertility can not change in those months. It can

Honestly if you choose not to have the vaccine then there will be some things you might not be able to do around others and that is fair and reasonable. We should not be locking down again because you have decided not to get the vaccine (insert personal reason that is important to you).

I am rather tired of people who think despite what has just happened in the last year thinking that they can carry on as normal and stuff the rest of us.

Totallydefeated
You won't believe me, but I know all about fertility treatment. We are not talking 6 or 9 months, it would have been 3 or 4. Nobodies fertility changes that much in 3 months.

If you say so.

I’ve had fertility treatment myself and, more relevantly, I also work in the field.

A) I have no idea why you’ve plucked 3 months out of the air as the time OP would have waited. Where did you get that from?

B) No fertility specialist would advise waiting months if OP is over 40 or has premature ovarian insufficiency. A wait of a few months CAN and DOES make a difference in some cases.

It seems you are determined to be right and will go to any lengths to argue you are, and will go to any lengths to give OP a kicking, despite not knowing very much about it. Being a patient (if indeed you were) is not the same as having professional expertise.