Anyone Else Wish Boris Would Just Tell Us if 21st June is Screwed

[Tiktokersmiracle]

Honestly

They know more than they tell us

This morning, someone on here posted a link to see how many Indian Variant cases were in your town, it said 0 for my town. Suddenly this evening, MSM is saying 5 cases since April 21st

I agree wholeheartedly with Adil Ray on GMB this morning- 4 MPs, 2 days, and all 4 said something different.

I want some clarity. We deserve clarity.

I've not broken even the tiniest of rules. I've had both vaccines. I'm so sick of this now.

And I'm so sick of the constant goalpost moving- originally, they said they expected the vaccines to limit deaths and severe illness. No mention of "completely". No mention of transmission.

Now suddenly they expect it to stop all deaths, all severe illness, and transmission too!

When you have a flu jab you are told it may not protect you from 100% of illness so don't take risks. At no point do they tell you you are fully protected.

Same as when I had my first dose of Pfizer in February- don't think this gets you home and dry, don't ignore the guidance, it's only your first dose.

I know it takes a fortnight from the weekend for my second dose to kick in too.

I had to postpone my wedding last June and I totally understood why. Even then, the vaccine was this golden goose that was going to get us all on the train to quote Jonathan Van Tamm. First it was "near the tunnel," then "it's arrived at the station but you can't jump on yet."

So why, when so many have done the right thing, signed up and had their dose or doses. Why oh why, based on transmission of an illness I was under the impression that in April we had reached herd immunity from, are they suggesting it's all been for nothing?

When do we say, enough is enough?

Why does Boris think it's acceptable to say "next week" he will say yes or no to 21st June?

My wedding is 26th June. I thought, like a fool last year, it would be fine

Yet now, I'm not sleeping, I'm anxious, and I can't get excited because I did that in April and now because of Boris' ineptitude and something like a small number of people saying no to vaccines, we will be practically back to square one. Why should the rest of us sit in this constant state of flux because of them?

If they know the risks, then that's up to them.

We do have to live amongst it
The numbers are way down today again
Deaths are miniscule.

Enough already!

Stop prolonging the agony and tell us, not make us hang on in the manner of a fucking cliffhanger.

Surely we have a right to that?

Wow. This thread took a nasty turn.

Just wanted to offer my sympathies OP. Everyone has struggled in their own way and it seems a lot of people have forgotten to ‘be kind’. I haven’t seen my mum since a week before Lockdown 1 as she’s in a nursing home. I’ve been up and down with anxiety as it’s challenging in a pandemic. Ive also been told to get over it on here. For what it’s worth I’m feeling much more positive about the future so your time will come too.

As a secondary teacher please rest assured that although your DC may feel they are struggling now, we’re aware of how rubbish it’s been and we’re trying to do our best to ‘catch everyone up’, make time for improvising mental health and all whilst still contending with our rubbish Covid mitigations.

*improving

I've tried very hard to be polite but when I've explained over all these pages that the first person got what I said totally arse upwards, yet others have then regurgitated the incorrect version of what I said, especially slagging off my kids, then damn straight I will finally have enough

You accused me for slagging off your kids when I categorically didn’t. It wasn’t a fluffy, coddling post but all I dared to do was suggest a different perspective to focus on and you jumped on my post like a cat with a firework up it’s arse.

But then, isn't that fundamentally what MN has become? A bunch of bullies who are oh so superior and twist what an op says just to get a reaction, so they can then whinge to HQ and get people banned

Not my experience but then I don’t go into every interaction looking for a fight with people who I don’t agree with. If you try hard enough that’s all you’re going to see.

I couldn’t give a shit who reports what to MNHQ tbh.

Like I said, what sad little lives you must lead, goading people who have had enough

Yes, like you’ve already said and clearly couldn’t wait to say again. I don’t deny there have been nasty posts on this thread but you’re absolutely not blameless. You’re incredibly hostile to posts that disagree with you but absolutely aren’t nasty, just not what you want to hear.

@motherrunner

Wow. This thread took a nasty turn.

Just wanted to offer my sympathies OP. Everyone has struggled in their own way and it seems a lot of people have forgotten to ‘be kind’. I haven’t seen my mum since a week before Lockdown 1 as she’s in a nursing home. I’ve been up and down with anxiety as it’s challenging in a pandemic. Ive also been told to get over it on here. For what it’s worth I’m feeling much more positive about the future so your time will come too.

As a secondary teacher please rest assured that although your DC may feel they are struggling now, we’re aware of how rubbish it’s been and we’re trying to do our best to ‘catch everyone up’, make time for improvising mental health and all whilst still contending with our rubbish Covid mitigations.

Thank you

It's good to hear that from a teacher

DD is a complicated soul. They were very badly bullied at a primary so we home educated for 4 months until they felt OK to return to a classroom

They have huge crisis of confidence at times still. And to see the report they got was incredibly upsetting

I don't envy teachers the task of catching up whilst teaching current stuff, and I know it's a thankless task.

What really started it off was one of their fave teachers passed away of Covid at the beginning of the year- they got too sick to have the vaccine in time. That hit them hard. They didn't speak for a couple of days.

That plus feeling so behind and useless, well, when they finally opened up they said they felt like they were drowning. School have arranged counselling- thank goodness because CAHMs is a nightmare here

It’s not a change though they always said it was a roadmap and depending on certain criteria ? That is as clear as they can be .

There are always variants ( some originating here ) but many will be no more serious or more infectious than existing ones , so figures will remain the same .

The government and all of us are in the middle of a giant experiment and the gathering of information .

You should just feel grateful we have sequencing and fact gathering and testing . A lot of countries don’t .

if the variant does not push up hospital admissions or deaths then hopefully the roadmap can continue . But I hate to state the obvious the government has very little control over the way this variant will affect people .

@Tiktokersmiracle Your poor DC, I can’t imagine experiencing that as a teenager. I used to think my teachers would ‘always be there’. Are school aware she is still struggling? I know what I’m like when I’m struggling - I’m the epitome of calm and no one would realise there is anything wrong. That’s why I’m probably over emotional on here! Encourage to reach out to a teacher she’s comfortable with - even by email - and tell her to be honest. We would then pass this onto pastoral and make sure procedures are in place to help. For example a few of my Yr 11s have a card that they can place on the table if they feel over whelmed and it’s a signal to me that they need to leave to go and see the pastoral team.

You’ve had a hard time in here in regards to your wedding plans but I can relate. When I’m struggling I will see the negatives in anything. Do you think the worries for your DC are being projected onto a “ruined wedding”? It’s easy for people to say ‘look on the bright side’ but when you’re having a rough time it’s so difficult to be thankful for things you logically know you should be thankful for.

[quote motherrunner]@Tiktokersmiracle Your poor DC, I can’t imagine experiencing that as a teenager. I used to think my teachers would ‘always be there’. Are school aware she is still struggling? I know what I’m like when I’m struggling - I’m the epitome of calm and no one would realise there is anything wrong. That’s why I’m probably over emotional on here! Encourage to reach out to a teacher she’s comfortable with - even by email - and tell her to be honest. We would then pass this onto pastoral and make sure procedures are in place to help. For example a few of my Yr 11s have a card that they can place on the table if they feel over whelmed and it’s a signal to me that they need to leave to go and see the pastoral team.

You’ve had a hard time in here in regards to your wedding plans but I can relate. When I’m struggling I will see the negatives in anything. Do you think the worries for your DC are being projected onto a “ruined wedding”? It’s easy for people to say ‘look on the bright side’ but when you’re having a rough time it’s so difficult to be thankful for things you logically know you should be thankful for.[/quote]
They are aware yes and have been great- they are far from the only one who is devastated by the loss of their teacher

They are the same- outwardly, calm, no tears, until it gets too much and we have a full on breakdown. But it takes a while for that happen and it did here too

I do get why people don't understand the upset over the wedding, but I waited a long time and it's the thing that has kept me focused. I totally got why I had to give it the push last year, it was the punctuation at the time of a month of shit, of realising my business was screwed, of taking on whatever odd jobs I could find. Then postponing the wedding. My friends mean a lot to me, purely down to not having family to hold on to. So having to choose between any of them, despite them assuring me that would be fine, isn't fine or possible to me.

Thank you for being kind.

You seem quite determined to pin this on people who have refused to be vaccinated. Borris is bullshitting you. The current emerging mess is because of his dithering and poor leadership not because of people not taking up vaccines. Hancock said it himself the other day, a third of those hospitalised with this new variant HAVE been vaccinated.

Of Fuck! We forgot to vote for a Prime Minister with a crystal ball!

The situation is fluid, the government is reacting, I hope lots of MNers stand for parliament next time, they seem to think they can nail this while the government is getting it all wrong!

And I didn’t even vote for them!