Anyone Else Wish Boris Would Just Tell Us if 21st June is Screwed

[Tiktokersmiracle]

Honestly

They know more than they tell us

This morning, someone on here posted a link to see how many Indian Variant cases were in your town, it said 0 for my town. Suddenly this evening, MSM is saying 5 cases since April 21st

I agree wholeheartedly with Adil Ray on GMB this morning- 4 MPs, 2 days, and all 4 said something different.

I want some clarity. We deserve clarity.

I've not broken even the tiniest of rules. I've had both vaccines. I'm so sick of this now.

And I'm so sick of the constant goalpost moving- originally, they said they expected the vaccines to limit deaths and severe illness. No mention of "completely". No mention of transmission.

Now suddenly they expect it to stop all deaths, all severe illness, and transmission too!

When you have a flu jab you are told it may not protect you from 100% of illness so don't take risks. At no point do they tell you you are fully protected.

Same as when I had my first dose of Pfizer in February- don't think this gets you home and dry, don't ignore the guidance, it's only your first dose.

I know it takes a fortnight from the weekend for my second dose to kick in too.

I had to postpone my wedding last June and I totally understood why. Even then, the vaccine was this golden goose that was going to get us all on the train to quote Jonathan Van Tamm. First it was "near the tunnel," then "it's arrived at the station but you can't jump on yet."

So why, when so many have done the right thing, signed up and had their dose or doses. Why oh why, based on transmission of an illness I was under the impression that in April we had reached herd immunity from, are they suggesting it's all been for nothing?

When do we say, enough is enough?

Why does Boris think it's acceptable to say "next week" he will say yes or no to 21st June?

My wedding is 26th June. I thought, like a fool last year, it would be fine

Yet now, I'm not sleeping, I'm anxious, and I can't get excited because I did that in April and now because of Boris' ineptitude and something like a small number of people saying no to vaccines, we will be practically back to square one. Why should the rest of us sit in this constant state of flux because of them?

If they know the risks, then that's up to them.

We do have to live amongst it
The numbers are way down today again
Deaths are miniscule.

Enough already!

Stop prolonging the agony and tell us, not make us hang on in the manner of a fucking cliffhanger.

Surely we have a right to that?

None of this makes any logical sense...... because like it or not there’s something so much bigger going on.
Right for the beginning people I listened to said this would never end and stated what would happen..... and it’s happening. Restrictions won’t be lifted, and if they are it will only be for a short time.
It’s terrifying that these people are in charge, they’re ineptitude is shocking.

But what's changed? Numbers are low across deaths and hospital admissions. That was fine before. Why not now?

The Indian variant is what has changed. But I imagine you know that.

@Zzelda

But what's changed? Numbers are low across deaths and hospital admissions. That was fine before. Why not now?

The Indian variant is what has changed. But I imagine you know that.

We've had other variants The vaccine is working in those not too stubborn to take it

The numbers are still relatively low

We can't carry on with half a life because of a few who used their judgement to say no

As I've said, it's personal responsibility. Everything was that before. It seems an alien concept now that people take their own risks and responsibility for their actions, beliefs and in some cases ignorance.
Literally the worst case of Nanny State I've ever witnessed

You need to calm down about your DC. Year 8 going into year 9, this is still early days.

Some of us have children in GCSE years who didn't get to even sit their exams.

@HandsOffMyRights

You need to calm down about your DC. Year 8 going into year 9, this is still early days.

Some of us have children in GCSE years who didn't get to even sit their exams.

DD is year 9 going to year 10 and has already started their GCSE studies.

But, you know, don't read what was actually written before you patronise me

Apologies. But year 9 to 10 is still nothing to panic about is it?

[quote User135644]**@Tiktokersmiracle

How is this Boris's fault? He's done well with the roadmap and the vaccines.[/quote]
You’re clearly a Boris fan, given your previous comment about him being blindsided by the Indian variant 🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️
The success of the roadmap remains to be seen. See above Indian variant.
He isn’t responsible for the vaccine programme. That’ll be the NHS.
@Tiktokersmiracle has done a v good job listing lots of our PM’s failings over the last 14 months. I don’t despite he’s had a hard job. But there are many, many things he and the Government should’ve done better.

It isn't possible to give clarity in a fluid situation. Pandemics don't follow a certain set of rules, they're unpredictable.

GodessKali
None of this makes any logical sense...... because like it or not there’s something so much bigger going on.

Please enlighten us.
Preferably facts rather than vague hints about Goings On

@Sarahsteedman

My then new born ( and 3 year old) not being able to see her father for the first 3 months Inc Xmas) of her life as he was in hospital with Covid is cruel, having to put off a wedding is not.

Sorry but who are you to tell someone what they should be upset about? It's not a competition.

@Getyourarseofffthequattroah but it seems it is

They'll even make their own interpretation of a post to slag me off that is pulled out their arse. But that's OK cos I'm worried about my DDs mental health, my DS social isolation and fear of being around others and the fact we are approaching being back to square one because of selfish morons and conspiracy theories.

Just get out there & live OP. Since the start of all this, I’ve very much adopted a make the most of it attitude, live for today. When restrictions are eased, I’m out there doing everything I can. Last summer, I went on 2x holidays, saw friends, family, enjoyed meals indoors, went to theme parks etc. I had a fab summer last year to be honest, wasn’t wildly different to normal. And now, as restrictions have been lifting again, I’m out there, living for the moment really. I’ve sat eating lunch in my coat while it’s raining. Yeh, it’s a bit shit but my god did I feel better for a natter with friends. I’m sure mumsnetters probably think those out socialising again are selfish & not thinking of the ‘greater good’ but frankly, I do not care. I’m putting myself & my families needs first. We can evaluate our own risk.

I’m due to get married in August, cancelled last year also. I get it. It’s shit. But you will get married. It may not be when planned but you will. We made the decision to do a 30 people wedding this year in the hope that’ll happen. We’ll do a big party once we can more confidently do so..

They'll even make their own interpretation of a post to slag me off that is pulled out their arse

People can only interpret what you present.

Op, it's not all about YOU.

Whats pathetic is bullying on the internet. What's pathetic is making someone who is already feeling a bit shit, feel worse. What's pathetic is belittling people's issues just because they don't align with your own view.

Yup, definitely nothing to do with you or the way you communicate.

I feel for you OP.

If you need clarity I can help. There is no intention of ending this cycle of lock-downs. Lockdowns and the way that we comply have become a huge tool of power for the Government and they want to hang on to the precedent for whatever new emergency comes along.

BJ said himself ‘it is not vaccines, but lockdowns that stopped the spread’.

I suggest OP that you scale back your wedding, get married and help your children as much as possible, while realising that nothing and nobody is going to bounce back.

Best wishes.

@Brokensharted when the election happened in December 2019 (how long ago does that feel now?), I remember campaigning for Labour and saying to people, look what the Tories have done already, can they get any worse before you will vote them out and give everyone a chance?

And yet here we are. And indeed people will still vote for them and let Boris dictate our lives and come up with rules that make no sense. WHO have said Lockdowns do nothing in the longer term but prolong the agony. Masks are very hit and miss, especially when they are worn and re-worn or are shitty fashion ones.

But I've done what was asked.

I saw on another thread that in December, the government said all it took was 15 million people to be vaccinated to get back to normal. Yet we now have 36 million vaccinated.

I get that things change. But every single case was down. The MSM are saying my area suddenly had 7 Indian variant cases in 24 hours yet the government official website said no new cases at all. Which is it?

I think we do need to live amongst it. We won't reach Covid zero because we didn't do enough to stop it originally. So now that's what we must do.

I agree about endless lockdown, but half the country think Boris has been too lax, not too stringent.

Voting for somebody else would have meant a different person making broadly loathed decisions.

@Brokensharted

Labour are no better - they’ve bent over and taken it.

The public have got what they wanted - a fascist buffoon. I hope they enjoy it.

Oh I'm not a Keith supporter trust me, I'm probably one tweet away from being expelled from the party as he hates us socialists

He's a total mug and how anyone can get rid of 99% of the support the party had when Boris and his ineptitude and scams for his mates and deaths at the rate they are is a total loss.