Denmark suspends Astra Zeneca vaccine over blood clot death - Not proven to be linked to the jab, but investigations are ongoing *title edited by MNHQ*

[Fluffymarshmallows]

A 49-year-old Austrian woman diedof ‘severe blood coagulation problems’ after taking the jab, and three more cases of blood clotting issues have been reported in the country.

Not proven to be linked to the jab yet, but investigations are ongoing.

metro.co.uk/2021/03/11/denmark-suspends-oxford-covid-vaccine-as-patient-dies-with-blood-clot-14224751/

Yes lets not forget Macron and his comments on AZ as "quasi ineffective" and Germany and its 8% effectiveness for over 65s.

I am sorry that you feel insulted NewLevelsOfTiredness, genuinely, but AZ has received nothing but shit from over the Channel and tbh I feel protective of the brand given their non profit making motive of making a global vaccine. I worry that the developing world will not want it given what feels like a campaign to undermine it

I am pretty sure nobody will forget Macron's stupid comments

@Nightbear

It’s an EU thing. We’ve already had EU politicians casting doubt on the effectiveness of this vaccine while simultaneously berating the U.K. and Astra Zeneca for not allowing them enough doses of it. They undermined their own population’s faith in it’s effectiveness and ended up, understandably, with low uptake of this particular vaccination. Now they’ve suspended it’s use when the statistics don’t justify it.

The 'EU' as recommended carrying on using the vaccine.

Two countries undermined their people's faith in the AZ vaccine. Macron is no more popular across "the EU" than he is in the UK.

Can you really, honestly, truly not see how wrong it is to take some news you read about two countries and make a blanket statement about 27 based on that?

When I wrote "Denmark has and continues to have a science-led approach to the pandemic and the vaccinations. Our health authorities have praised the AZ vaccine from the start." did the words just kind of breeze through you because it didn't fit the narrative you've decided on?

17 million people and under 50 people seriously effected! It’s ridiculous, even if there was a link, the risk is minuscule, a lot less than the virus. I wonder what the numbers are Pfizer?

@LimitIsUp

Yes lets not forget Macron and his comments on AZ as "quasi ineffective" and Germany and its 8% effectiveness for over 65s.

I am sorry that you feel insulted NewLevelsOfTiredness, genuinely, but AZ has received nothing but shit from over the Channel and tbh I feel protective of the brand given their non profit making motive of making a global vaccine. I worry that the developing world will not want it given what feels like a campaign to undermine it

Yes, but you're extrapolating something said in France and Germany and using it to paint 25 other countries with the same brush.

I don't know which part of the UK you're in, but if one of the other members did something stupid, that was very specific to that country, and yet the error was persistently referred to as a 'UK' error - wouldn't that bug the hell out of you. Can't you see that it's the same?

It is perfectly understandable to halt the use of a batch in connection. Whilst investigating. The signal that stopping completely gives out is dangerous to their own and other countries vaccine programs.

I think its reasonable to refer to the EU as a collective when discussing vaccines, since the EU dealt with vaccine procurement as a bloc and appears to show hive mind in the reaction to Astrazeneca. Now Ireland, Denmark, Norway, Bulgaria and Iceland have stopped using it too

Nightbear

It’s an EU thing. We’ve already had EU politicians casting doubt on the effectiveness of this vaccine while simultaneously berating the U.K. and Astra Zeneca for not allowing them enough doses of it. They undermined their own population’s faith in it’s effectiveness and ended up, understandably, with low uptake of this particular vaccination. Now they’ve suspended it’s use when the statistics don’t justify it.“

All the while, infections going up day after day. Tragedy in the making. So unnecessary

Thinking slightly outside the box let's put uk aside here.

What we do know
The eu entered into a best efforts contract with az later than most other countries.
We know this as they kicked off and published the contract.
What else we know for the 3rd time now az has not delivered the amount doses they said they would which has angered the EU.

Now if certain eu leaders not all don't think applies Denmark.
Say things that reduce the demand for az.
People say they prepared wait for other companies.
Now serious doubts over safety and pause on rollout maybe final nail in the coffin so to speak.

Yet then eu leaders moan about az not delivering their orders
That its been proven as less safe or quasi effective deflects blame on them for screwing up the vaccine buying in the 1st place its ok we don't want az anyway.

Could az in their contract pull the plug on eu contract as feels hard to imagine how they recover.
Just sell and deliver to countries that want it.
Give Australia the 250k doses eu blocked.
Could az maybe look to take production out of eu as they have massively damaged the vaccine and the companies reputation.

Well put!

I really think we in the UK shouldn't jump into the conclusion that the EU is ragging a campaign to discredit AZ because of hostility to the UK without knowing any details about what really goes on with those people who were impacted by the side effects. We don't know the details about their condition, their age, their illness circumstances. There a lots more than just a category as "blood clots". Why should you judge so lightly with this very seriously accusations? Not helpful at all!

Does anybody know if the blood clots reported were after 1 dose or both?

@heythereiamback

Does anybody know if the blood clots reported were after 1 dose or both?

1?

I would have to say sadly, the media has played a tremendous role in the perception of what's happening across the channel. Unless you read news from that side of the world without barrier, what you get to know has been filtered by other's bias. So very sad.