Denmark suspends Astra Zeneca vaccine over blood clot death - Not proven to be linked to the jab, but investigations are ongoing *title edited by MNHQ*

[Fluffymarshmallows]

A 49-year-old Austrian woman diedof ‘severe blood coagulation problems’ after taking the jab, and three more cases of blood clotting issues have been reported in the country.

Not proven to be linked to the jab yet, but investigations are ongoing.

metro.co.uk/2021/03/11/denmark-suspends-oxford-covid-vaccine-as-patient-dies-with-blood-clot-14224751/

It's more likely that they picked up covid in the clinic while waiting to be vaccinated than that the clots were caused by the vaccine. That has a more plausible biological mechanism. Hope thy have given them covid tests.

Italy has also stopped using AZ while they have blocked 250k vaccines going to Australia, it’s absolute madness

@grapewine

It isn't only DK either. Austria, Luxembourg and the Baltics have suspended as well for now.

CNN says Denmark, Iceland and Norway have suspended AZ

Estonia, Lithuania, Luxembourg and Latvia have also stopped inoculations from the batch while an investigation continues, the EMA said. The batch of 1 million doses went to 17 EU countries.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/health/denmark-astrazeneca-vaccine-suspended-b1815744.html%3famp

I wasn't making shit up.

Not sure if your remark is aimed at me, but I didnt think you were.
I perhaps should have written the words, "as well" after my post.

I live in Norway and my kommune suspended it's use of the AZ vaccine this morning. Other kommune's have followed suit and I think it's national now. We have a slightly different system here, we have nation wide government decisions, but local kommune's can also make their own decisions. For example if Bergen have low infection rate, but Trondheim has a high infection rate, Trondheim can go into lockdown but Bergen stays open.
It's all over the media here and in Sweden, Denmark and Finland. It's very interesting comparing the UK media response. My Mum has recieved the AZ vaccine and my inlaws too.

@Baileysforchristmas
Yes it amazes how EU countries are so keen to have Russian and Chinese vaccine that hasn’t even been signed off by the EMA and yet so quick to judge AZ vaccine as ineffective and unsafe. I know which one i’d rather have.

2 countries out of 27 is the EU being 'so keen'? You indicated in your thread that you understood the difference between the EU and individual countries. It still doesn't seem you do.

@LimitIsUp
There appears to be a sustained smear campaign from the EU regarding AstraZeneca, it really is very tiresome.
The only statement from the EU today in response to what's happened, is that they consider it safe to use and won't be recommending the other member states to follow the course chosen by six individual countries.

How is the difference between the EU and individual countries so difficult?
If Wales (just to pick a random UK country) chose to do something controversial, or made a damaging international statement, and people persistently said 'the UK' instead of 'Wales' when bitching about it, you'd be annoyed right? And you'd probably wonder what the poster's agenda was...

@lightand

Not sure if your remark is aimed at me, but I didnt think you were. I perhaps should have written the words, "as well" after my post.

Fair enough! Sorry. It's be a bit of a day.

Interesting read

www.politico.eu/article/eu-countries-halt-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-rollout-after-blood-clots/

[quote Baileysforchristmas]Interesting read

www.politico.eu/article/eu-countries-halt-oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-rollout-after-blood-clots/[/quote]
Interesting. Seems like there are also cases with pfizer. Wonder why then only stop az

Yes I find this information very reassuring

In the U.K., more than 11 million doses of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine have been administered — more than double the number across Europe. The weekly adverse reaction report, updated Thursday, shows there have been three deaths and 45 non-fatal blood clot-related events in the aftermath of getting the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine, and one death and 48 non-fatal blood-clot related events after the BioNTech/Pfizer jab.

@fourminutewarning

It has been ruled to be NOT linked to the jab

It hasn’t been ruled there’s no link.

It’s stated that at this moment no link has been found.

It is always crucial to spot the difference between these two. I’ve realised this a lot this past year.
Absence of evidence is not the same as evidence of absence.

Whats the point of the EMA then..
I get each country needs make own decisions they collaborative brought into buying the vaccines together.
I thought the ema had to authorise.
But after that I guess its down to them.
If Italy doesn't want use it send those 250k to Australia then if they really only have 6months shelf life.
I fear even if cleared confidence in az will dwindle even further in Europe.
Hopefully they get more of the vaccines they do prefer in time.
I accept Denmark doing well..
Countries Eastern Europe less so.
Rates France and Germany seem to be increasing.

Interesting. Seems like there are also cases with pfizer. Wonder why then only stop az

Because its British and the whipping boy.

AZ have failed to deliver to the EU for 2 reasons - AZ failing to get the yields it needs and EU not providing the support needed to iron out the issues. But listening to leading EU politicians and commentators, the UK is to blame for AZ failures.

They are not treating the OX / AZ vaccine fairly and this can only be for political reasons.

Whether it's also because of Brexit and the need to 'punish' the UK, I don't know. But it must be of significant embarrassment that the UK are clearly doing better.

The concern I have is that it's not only creating AZ vaccine scepticism on the continent, but also in other continents e.g Africa where there is already significant scepticism.

I think we were daft to leave EU but I am dumbfounded at the shenanigans of the EU on Brussels and some of the 27 nations.

Nocebo effect, people who don't want the vaccine read that covid causes the exact same thing hms.harvard.edu/news/covid-19-blood-clots and got hysterical. Lots of people die every day.

But no forced vaccines ever, that I draw the line at!!!

Correlation does not mean causation. Not even sure there's even a correlation if you consider how many people have had the vaccine without issue and the odds of people developing a similar illness anyway.

@Pan2

I have reported this thread. We have no evidence in this country of blood clotting being a risk. And no evidence from any other country either.

Why report the thread? People should talk about it, no?

Since Norway has been mentioned here- did Norway suspend Pfizer when there was concern over a large number of deaths in the early days of vaccination campaign?

I was a bit worried about having the vaccine, I admit, at the beginning because how quickly it was released and administrated but the data coming through even looking at EU countries, the number that are being vaccinated and the cases of severe illness and death are minuscule even if it was caused by the vaccine which hasn’t been proved yet.

I don’t think threads like this should be deleted, it good to discuss it, it’s in the media, people obviously worry but the data is actually very encouraging for both vaccines, it’s very reassuring

I don't get this...is this not a miniscule proportion even on the slightest of chances there is a link?

It's like our risk perception and reaction as a civilization is on steroids and in warp drive. We might as well never leave our houses again as lighting might strike us down.

@backaftera2yearbreak

I’m getting my vaccine later. I may need to stop reading the news today...

Don't worry, major newspapers are cracking down on fearmongering reports about vaccine "injuries": twitter.com/BBGRichie/status/1370076362636136452

People are whining about it but I think we're just so OVER the "free" press after Meghan. They used to say "all the news that's fit to print" but this and Johnson & Johnson's asbestos baby "scandal" just frighten people! Better to be happy and safe

Living in Denmark, I can say with confidence that no one here thinks the U.K. is doing well WRT Covid 😬 and the Danish gov have no reason to use the U.K. as a whipping boy over this. The Az vaccine is widely accepted as people trust the authorities to make the right decisions. I think they’ll restart in 2 weeks having made a (very small) stockpile - the ratio of az purchased by dk was minimal - it’ll be used up in days.

@Baileysforchristmas

I meant dangerous as in miss information of AZ vaccine

Its not really misinformation is it?

I mean this vaccine is going into millions of people, any concerns have to be addressed, any hint of cover up, will mean a collapse in vaccination programs around the globe.

fwiw the french medicines regulator & the EMA has said AZ is safe but i am glad that any issues are investigated correctly and thoroughly even if at the national level.

Hopefully, all will be back on track very quickly.

Ten days after taking the jab.

I have veinous insufficiency and regular phlebitis, sometimes infected. If I die from a clot 10 days after having my jab it will overwhelmingly likely have nothing whatsoever to do with it.

I’m having my jab this weekend and can’t bloody wait. No idea which vaccine I’ll be given but I don’t miNd. The regulatory authorities in the UK have already said that the incidence of blood clots in those vaccinated with the AZ vaccine are no greater than those in the general population.

Really hope this doesn’t put people off. Having been treated for several blood clots, I’d really rather not contract Covid.