Uk get real. Watch this!!!!!

[Justa47]

apple.news/Ab7BD6VtsTzaTtXmPtLztxA

Hopefully none of your family will be knocked on the head by an errant branch or break an ankle down a rabbit hole on your deserted country walks!

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Because the OP is preachy af? That's my guess and certainly why I was annoyed.

You’re annoyed because the OP is preachy to people who are breaking rules? These people couldn’t care less about anyone but themselves so personally I couldn’t care less if they’re being preached to. I didn’t take OPs post badly because it wasn’t aimed at people like me who stick to the rules. I think we should all feel annoyed at people who break the rules without good reason.

Can we just step away from how the OP presented the video and take it for it’s worth as a video showing human suffering.

Young, fit people are dying. Their families are broken. People used to dealing with death are sobbing because it feels like a conveyor belt. Conversations that should be had face to face are happening on the phone. Staff are broken physically, mentally and emotionally.

And whoever said people die worse deaths- maybe that’s true, maybe it isn’t. Its the sheer scale here that’s unmanageable for even the most resilient person. Nobody expected this. ‘Are you emotionally prepared for a global pandemic?’ is not a medical school admission question.

It must be true then, it was on the BBC lol.

[quote PistolKnight]It's the report that was on bbc at 6

www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-55724994[/quote]
I just watched this. It was full on

Everyone should see this. If you had any thought about breaking the rules, this will make you think again.

Everyone should see this. If you had any thought about breaking the rules, this will make you think again

I don't even know where to start.
I haven't broken any rules. I don't intend to either.
You also assume that everyone who is already breaking the rules or "thinking about it" gives it a shit and will magically see the error of their ways by seeing a video.
It's just as likely people will think "give it a fucking rest, I KNOW what I should and shouldn't be doing, I'm doing my best"
Lumping everyone in together helps no-one.

Clive "Voice of Doom" Myrie avoiding asking pertinent questions such as how many patients have caught Covid in hospital.

A friend of DH has just lost his sister. No symptoms other than loss of smell on Saturday, felt totally normal. Had two apparently sudden and random coughing fits that resulted in her fainting so she rang 111 who advised her to go into hospital. Sadly she didn't respond to the oxygen and she passed away yesterday morning. She was only in her fifties with no health conditions anyone was aware of. It's terrifying.

But as others have said some people have no choice but to take risks due to work etc Its the government that need to get real.

Actually you know what. I did just watch it and it did make me ashamed. Ashamed that our government, and governments around the world, have sat on treatments that are now starting to gain some real traction and health endorsements from publications such as BMJ, lancet, NEJM, namely vitamin D and Ivermectin. These two simple and cheap solutions could have been used for months now but the medics stating they made a difference were ignored.

Or the systematic reduction in critical care beds that has been taking place for years but apparently we can now fund £100 billion on a moonshot testing problem - 70% of the total NHS budget.

So fuck off with your preaching and moralising at a public who are, by and large, trying very hard to do the right thing against an airborne virus - despite often huge personal cost to themselves - and instead direct your anger at the authorities who could have done something to alleviate this pressure and strain in the first place.

@Jaxhog

Everyone should see this. If you had any thought about breaking the rules, this will make you think again.

I think most of us have seen it, it was on TV last night. I don't break the rules and neither does anyone I know in real life.

The way this thread was presented really wasn't necessary though.

People have been sticking to the rules. The rules that said you had to send your children into school from September to December while the graph for new cases was going up practically vertically. The rules that said you should Eat Out To Help Out and get back to the office a few weeks before that. Government ministers are almost entirely responsible for all the additional deaths since September.

@TwelvePaws

EvilPea

No one is annoyed at people like you. So why tell the OP to piss off?

Because she told us all we should watch that and be ashamed.

I am ashamed our nhs isn’t supported and wasn’t better prepared.
I’m ashamed our government has haemorrhaged money on things like the still not working test and trace
I’m ashamed Of our governments handling
I’m ashamed of the lack of support for teachers and the vulnerable.
I’m ashamed our police have been thrown under the bus enforcing laws and guidance that has changed 63 times since they came out.

But for sticking over and above the rules, laws and legislation No I’m not ashamed

Because she told us all we should watch that and be ashamed.

No, the OP didn’t say ‘all’ I’d is should be ashamed, they said ‘the people breaking rules’ should watch and be ashamed. They probably won’t watch and won’t feel ashamed. But OP wasn’t including people like us who don’t break the rules. Which is why I don’t see why anyone who is following the rules has an issue with what OP is saying really.

Try again !

*Because she told us all we should watch that and be ashamed.

No, the OP didn’t say ‘all’ of us should be ashamed, they said ‘the people breaking rules’ should watch and be ashamed. They probably won’t watch and won’t feel ashamed. But OP wasn’t including people like us who don’t break the rules. Which is why I don’t see why anyone who is following the rules has an issue with what OP is saying really.*

@Msmcc1212 no I won't report. I don't agree with it and won't go but I'm not about to start calling police

@TrainspottingWelsh

I was going to throw a huge illegal rave tomorrow, and then spend the weekend visiting the in-laws and popping in to the homes of all the local elderly and any friends that couldn't make it to my party. But now some online random has told me not to, I have LEARNT and I'm ASHAMED.

Thank you so much for educating me op, I'm sure with just a few more informative posts you'll have covid eradicated.

👌👌👌

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Because she told us all we should watch that and be ashamed.

No, the OP didn’t say ‘all’ of us should be ashamed, they said ‘the people breaking rules’ should watch and be ashamed. They probably won’t watch and won’t feel ashamed. But OP wasn’t including people like us who don’t break the rules. Which is why I don’t see why anyone who is following the rules has an issue with what OP is saying really.*

I was going to throw a huge illegal rave tomorrow, and then spend the weekend visiting the in-laws and popping in to the homes of all the local elderly and any friends that couldn't make it to my party. But now some online random has told me not to, I have LEARNT and I'm ASHAMED.

Thank you so much for educating me op, I'm sure with just a few more informative posts you'll have covid eradicated.

🙄 But you only need to read on the many threads on here that show so many people do not seem to understand that one of the main reasons for restrictions is making sure the NHS copes. Videos like this show the pressure that NHS staff are under. Also many people seem detached from the reality of the illness whilst they’re thinking about what they’re missing out on. Videos like this show those realities.
Some people do need to be educated and they should be ashamed of their actions.

It’s important to understand the terrible effects of Covid, but I do think some of the BBC reports are filmed in such a deliberately emotive way that they start to feel a bit like government propaganda. When the camera lingers on people just willing for them to start welling up- actually that’s not just the BBC, it seems to be a trend across TV whether the programme is serious or not.

I was on a Zoom catch up recently with some of my husbands friends from medical school- they are in all sorts of specialisms now; pathology, neurology, general practice - also one is an A&E consultant and one a consultant in paediatric ICU. The friend who normally works in paediatric ICU is now working on a Covid ward - she particularly mentioned proning and said they try to have patients prone for about 16 hours a day, normally overnight as then they can do tests in the daytime when the patient is face up as that’s easier. She said they have a proning team who are now very good at it and very efficient- it didn’t seem to be this huge issue that it was made out to be in that news report. I don’t know - I’d rather these reports were made by the medics themselves almost as I think things get lost in translation through the journalists sometimes who are looking for a particular angle.

I’m not sure what I’m trying to say exactly - it’s good for people to see what is happening, but do wish it didn’t feel so manipulative and propaganda-like.

And yes I am following the rules, and we all should.

Wow some of you are so nasty. Op is just making a point. Lots of people are obeying the rules but many are not. If you don't like the thread just scroll past it.

@Kitcat122

Wow some of you are so nasty. Op is just making a point. Lots of people are obeying the rules but many are not. If you don't like the thread just scroll past it.

No the OP at first told us all to get real and then posted a link without any context or explanation and then pretty much accused everyone of breaking the rules.

People replied in the same tone. It could have sparked a good discussion had it been properly introduced.

I agree, GreatWave - and most of us had already seen it anyway. Televisions are on more at this time than ever before!

We need useful messaging. e.g a recent survey showed that only 5% of people properly understood about airborne transmission and the need for air exchange. There was similarly very low understanding about how a mask pulled up and down going in and out of places where the virus may have been able to "land" on the mask is increasing your risk by perfectly placing the particles below your nose to be breathed in and out.

@Timeontimeoff

Then it not at you is it.
It’s all the people making rationalisations up to break the rules. As cumulatively they cause this.