Uk get real. Watch this!!!!!

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@StamfordHill

People who've already had covid, especially recently, don't really need to be careful though. The risk of reinfection is minute, and they don't spread it either.

Do we have evidence that they don't spread it?

There was a point in Melbourne's 111 day lockdown during our winter where people seemed to be going insane en masse. This thread makes me think the UK is now in that headspace.

The problem is that quite possibly no one is thinking clearly anymore due to the stress of the situation which is more than human brains were built to take.

Hopefully small mercies like the hours of daylight gradually getting longer will give you some relief.

Since April 2020 we have had posters at my workplace (on the toilet doors!) that say "After all of this is over, all that will really matter is how we treated each other..."

Some of you will feel like punching me for this kind of platitude, and I had moments of being tempted to rip the posters down last year, but I now think it's a worthy idea and I enjoy pondering it during my quiet time in a cubicle.

Bog off with the four exclamation marks, OP. Do you have any idea how long the virus can survive on superfluous punctuation?
Haven't watched, probably won't. I have this thing called an imagination, and a mild allergy to sententious and manipulative beeb pieces.
HTH. Or was it GTF? TLAs are tricky.

Guessed it was the piece on the BBC news last night, it's all part of the stay at home campaign, there are also lots of posters up in places saying that you will kill people if you bend the rules

I broke the rules twice...once in April where I hugged both my dad and my sister when my mum died, and once in November when I hugged my sisters when my dad died. Do I feel ashamed about that? no I bloody well don't and never will.

@AcornAutumn,

Let me put this as politely as I can.

From posts I have seen from you on this and other threads, you either lack logic or empathy.

A virus has many routes of infection. So, yes, nosocomial infection is one of them, the one you choose to highlight, but there are many others, including complete idiots making their own (entirely incorrect and self serving) ‘risk assessments’.

The r number at population level is a gauge of how many other people one person infects. The Mathematics is exactly the same as for a nuclear reactor or nuclear bomb (absent immunity). if the r number is lower than one, infection (or fission) slows and stops. If the r number is greater than 1, the infection (or fission) grows exponentially. When this happens, you get uncontrolled infection spread, or a nuclear bomb.

In a reactor, you lower control rods to absorb thermal neutrons and keep the reaction under control. You cannot stop every neutron fissioning every uranium nucleus (that would be essential contacts and hospitals in the analogy) but you can absorb enough to bring the r number below one. We can do that by reducing contacts and wearing masks. It works! The r number is now substantially below 1, as most people do obey rules and we are getting some herd immunity via both vaccinations and herd immunity.

Now, to address the economy/life vs lives argument that you are so fond of.....90% of reputable economists who have done research in this area (I am happy to provide links if you like) have shown that locking down hard and early both saves lives and causes the least damage to the economy.

You need to put your bias to one side and read some real (not just your pet one or two people) research by both epidemiologists and economists.

I caught covid because I got spat at, nothing to do with breaking the rules, which I have followed.

Start by showing it to the Prime Minister, who condoned his own (now former) advisor and one of the Cabinet breaking the rules.

• Hopefully none of your family will be knocked on the head by an errant branch or break an ankle down a rabbit hole on your deserted country walks! Because the NHS dont have staff or beds for you so fix your own concussion and broken ankle Twat! So many fucking selfish people on here*

I have lost the ability to know what is serious and what is satire on this site.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE !!!!!

Why would you assume it's only rule breakers spreading or catching it? The people I know that have caught it in the past few months - hospital, care home, work, supermarket

Most people I know have caught it at work and are not rule breakers at all. 300 plus workers on a site travelling from all over the country and many of public transport. Can’t blame the people blame the government.

I'm starting to think some people will never recover from this pandemic, and it's not just the ones who have the virus. I can't see a lot of the more extreme supporters of restrictions going back to normal life after this

The reason rule-followers are sneering at this thread is the hyperbolic wording/punctuation. It's not going to be counter-productive because those who are behaving sensibly won't be daft enough to be put off doing the right thing out of mild irritation. However it's most unlikely to impress the unconverted. I don't need to watch the link; I already don't want myself or my nearest and dearest (or anyone, really) to die horribly and I know it is a possibility. Yes, people do die, but a lot more are dying earlier or suffering unnecessarily because of this - that is undeniable unless you're one of those persistent deniers, we all know the type.

I'm horrified at some of the anecdotes on here though. No-one should catch the virus through being spat at, and spitting should be a criminal offence - actually I think it already is, it comes under assault, but needs to be taken far more seriously. Someone spat at me the other week, but only from quite a distance, so more of a statement than an assault. Still shouldn't be happening.

I do totally agree that the government is handling it poorly in terms of when and how to lockdown and how to present it to the public. It loses so much goodwill, and heaven knows we need all the goodwill we can get at the moment. However, being miffed at the actions of the Prime Minister's former special adviser is NO excuse to assault the police, shop workers, health workers etc in the execution of their duties. And certainly no excuse to risk other people's lives. If you want to live dangerously, take up bridge jumping or something.

Oh stop. Everyone I know who caught it got it from work!

Problem is we're on complete overload with advice,opions and critisium the power of any message and guidance is dilutated .
We have a very strong core of people who just don't care till it directly affects them.

Refuse to watch due to excessive use of exclamation marks. Stop shouting at us.

I thought it couldn’t be worse than last night’s news.... yes it’s all real and perhaps we should be aware but I do think some of it was unnecessary (bodies in the mortuary- did they or their families consent to that being shown?). How will it make newly bereaved people feel to see that or all of that film?

The numbers are now coming robustly down. Yes we need to keep sticking to the rules as the majority are doing but what we are doing is working. There is a delay before the results of that will be noticiable in the hospitals.

Thank goodness for the front line workers and we will always be grateful to them. I hope they can recover from the trauma.

@Kokeshi123

How do you know it's "rule breakers"? The virus also spreads among key workers, kids who have to be in school, within households etc.

If you ask me I think it's being predominantly spread in hospitals and care homes.

Hospitals and care homes have been highlighted recently as main places people catch it, I'm sure I saw that 1 in 6 go in hospital for something else and catch Covid, it's like when people used to get MRSA in hospital. I'm sure all those poor people aren't rule breakers

@BeakyWinder,

Why do you believe that we won’t go back to normal? Who do you think wants us not to? Do you not believe that we live in a democracy?

Or are you a believer of this weird ‘great reset’?!

Schools and universities were massive sinks of infection.

Infection is about contact and school children and university students really struggle with masks, social distancing etc.

It is no coincidence that, as soon as schools and universities closed, infections came down fast.

This is not a political belief, merely fact. The sooner we can see our young back in their educational establishments, the better.

Given the rate of decline of infection and roll out of vaccinations, I think we will see schools back after half term. The more people are sensible, the more likely that will become.

Absolutely heartbreaking. People in their 20’s with no underlining health conditions fighting for their lives. Frightening. The poor staff are all at risk of developing PTSD too 😢

The consultant was right when she said ‘people just don’t get it’. Either that or a cohort of society have lost their empathy and are arrogantly carrying on doing what they want, despite the human cost. When did people become so selfish...