Do you think they'll force the vaccine on us?

[Closingtime94]

Just that really and I don't mean like they'll force us down and demand we get it but do you think if we want to travel or be admitted to hospital or whatever they'll say we have to have the vaccine or do you think they'll be more like to encourage the older population to have it for those reasons?

I'm just a bit worried as I don't really want to have the vaccine not because I think they're going to put a microchip in us but mostly because it was done very quickly and we don't know much about it, this is the first year I've gotten the flu jab (because pregnant) and ended up really poorly so just a bit wary of the covid jab that's all - maybe I'm worrying over nothing but it's interesting to know what other people think.

I don't think they'll start the hard sell unless uptake is much lower than expected.

How much have you learned about it and where have you learned it from? I found this programme very helpful and easy to understand. It's really important to listen to people who can answer your questions.

LBC Vaccine Hour.

To answer your question, I hope that the messaging will be sufficiently clear so that we don't need to be forced. I will certainly be having mine. I'm mid 30s and otherwise healthy.

Having worked in a pharmaceutical company I one thousand percent will jump for the vaccine, as I see the testing everything goes through and also have had covid and wouldnt wish it on anyone. Saying that, no, they'll advise advise advise but human rights would go back years if they withheld anything from people who didnt have it. Everyone's concerns are real and valid

I heard on the news earlier Quantas won't allow people to travel on their aircraft without proof of being vaccinated against Covid.

Same system that is in place for yellow fever at the moment for example.

No one will force you to have the vaccine, your choice.

Equally don't be surprised if it means you can't do certain things if you haven't been vaccinated.

I don't think they will actually force people but it will be kind if forced in a sense that you will likely need it to travel and do certain things in future.

@stayathomer

Having worked in a pharmaceutical company I one thousand percent will jump for the vaccine, as I see the testing everything goes through and also have had covid and wouldnt wish it on anyone. Saying that, no, they'll advise advise advise but human rights would go back years if they withheld anything from people who didnt have it. Everyone's concerns are real and valid

At a time when everyone has become so divided, I think this is a lovely comment.

It's not yet clear if everyone can safely receive a vaccine (eg the severely immunocompromised, those with allergies to an indredient). Will they be able to have an exemption, or are they stuffed? Or has that not yet been announced?

Australia is pretty strict about exemptions - but defined, medically-attested ones are accepted for other purposes where vax are required

I think there will be a lot of coercion that may nominally stop just short of making it a law violation not to have the jab and/or frequent testing. I feel that mandatory vaccination is acceptable only for those people in high risk occupational groups.

Absolutely they will. They already tried to pass a law to allow for that in Denmark.

Oxford vaccine: How did they make it so quickly? www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55041371

The article above is a useful read to answer the questions about speed of development - recommend a read

I think that travel to some countries might require vaccination. I suspect perhaps people's desire to travel again will have an impact on the uptake.

No one can force you to have it. But I expect travel companies and some countries may want you to have it. Lots of people have vaccines already to go on holiday.... no big deal usually?

Absolutely!
A very sensible measured post without hysteria

@nether

It's not yet clear if everyone can safely receive a vaccine (eg the severely immunocompromised, those with allergies to an indredient). Will they be able to have an exemption, or are they stuffed? Or has that not yet been announced?

Australia is pretty strict about exemptions - but defined, medically-attested ones are accepted for other purposes where vax are required

Not been announced, nothing has. UK will prob ably have an exemption but it's up to the rest of the world what they do. I wouldn't be surprised if Aus and NZ don't for travellers coming in

That was to stayathomer

No, but I'd expect a fairly aggressive public health campaign about how it's your duty to have it.

I hope they'll put out some clear information to reassure people with your kinds of concerns.

So long as they don't enforce the vaccine to cross the border into Wales, or to get into Devon and Cornwall, we'll be okay for a couple more years

I shan’t be having it when pregnant. It’s not like they are going to pin me down and force it on me.

Sarah Jarvis on Jeremy Vine said it would be unethical to force people to have it.

I know a lot of people are worried about how quickly the vaccines have been developed, but I have been educating myself about how they have managed to do this. They haven't cut corners, they have been running concurrent trials, which normally they don't hve the funds for. Given that this is a world-wide pandemic governments have been prioritising funds for vaccines.

There is lots of information out there as to why the vaccine is safe and how it has been developed in super fast time - if you wanted to do your own research, you could find this.

I think there will be restrictions on life (travel etc) if you can be vaccinated but choose not to. If you have a justifiable reason not to be vaccinated, it is unfair they are put at risk for someone else’s free choice. These people should be allowed to participate in “normal life” safe in the knowledge people around them have been vaccinated and there is a reduced risk c19 will be passed into them.

I heard on the news earlier Quantas won't allow people to travel on their aircraft without proof of being vaccinated against Covid.

A bit more on the..err.....Qantas ....announcement here:

www.flightglobal.com/strategy/qantas-likely-to-mandate-covid-19-vaccine-for-international-passengers/141248.article

It will simply be a return to the days of needing proof the likes of Yellow fever vaccination before travel to certain countries, entry into certain countries or getting a Visa for certain countries.

Nobody is going to be held down and have the vaccine "forced upon them", but there will no doubt be minor consequences for those who choose not to be innocculated.

I think it will be compulsory for travel abroad to lots of places. Possibly for large gigs and events, either that or a private negative test needed.

If safe for children, I think it should be compulsory for a school place unless a certified medical reason they can’t have it ie prior reactions to vaccines.

Can’t see it being compulsory for medical care.

They're not going to force people to have it, but there may be travel restrictions and perhaps job restrictions for people who don't have it (think working in a care home). TBH, no-one is going to put a vaccine out there that isn't safe - imagine the backlash.

If people don't have the vaccine, how on earth do you think we're going to get out of this mess. Also, we need proper herd immunity to protect people who cannot have the vaccine for genuine health reasons.

Do your research (properly, not taking everything Fred from Facebook says as gospel), think about the thousands of people who've been part of the vaccine research programme who've already had the various vaccines.

I do understand your reluctance with being pregnant - perhaps you could delay until you've had your baby and finished breastfeeding. You may also find you won't be offered a vaccine for several months anyway as they're looking at vaccinating the elderly, health and care workers and the vulnerable first.

But surely if too many people refuse the vaccine it won't be effective?

I'm mid 30s and otherwise healthy.

You may not even be offered it. The current plan only includes those over fifty, and the clinically vulnerable. Providing it to the under fifty group is subject to a cost benefit evaluation.