Do you think they'll force the vaccine on us?

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Just that really and I don't mean like they'll force us down and demand we get it but do you think if we want to travel or be admitted to hospital or whatever they'll say we have to have the vaccine or do you think they'll be more like to encourage the older population to have it for those reasons?

I'm just a bit worried as I don't really want to have the vaccine not because I think they're going to put a microchip in us but mostly because it was done very quickly and we don't know much about it, this is the first year I've gotten the flu jab (because pregnant) and ended up really poorly so just a bit wary of the covid jab that's all - maybe I'm worrying over nothing but it's interesting to know what other people think.

[quote PinkFondantFancy]**@CherryPavlova* and there's my point made entirely. "Thanks @PinkFondantFancy* for doing the right thing attempting to protect your child and the rest of the herd. I'm really sorry your child was unfortunately one of the children damaged in the process. We're grateful that you did it though and I'd hope society in return does what it can to support you". Nope, didn't hear that from you. Just more sanctimony. Thanks.

Have I ever sat next to a child dying of a preventable disease? No but I have sat next to a child, nursing them for months while the medics weren't sure if they'd die, having been 100% healthy just before. So I'd say it's pretty close.

All these things are a risk benefit trade off. The risks to my child or in fact me of covid are vanishingly small. The risks to my child of say, measles, are higher and therefore the risk of a rare vaccine reaction is worth taking. This is why you'll find a lot of people questioning this one when previously they've questioned no others. Risking a rare side effect to maybe help others (no info yet on whether the vaccines do actually reduce transmission) doesn't seem like a good trade off to me[/quote]
Of course nobody wants to see vaccines damage people.

The risk of measles damage is far lower than the risk of C19 damage. The risk from measles is, individually quite low. It is the population risk that drives immunisation.

I get some parents won’t want to even take a small risk which is why compulsory won’t work but societal pressure and restrictions to protect others gives a choice.

“ The risk of measles damage is far lower than the risk of C19 damage. The risk from measles is, individually quite low. It is the population risk that drives immunisation.”

IIRC fatality rate for measles is 1 in 1000 to 1 in 5000 (0.1-0.02%). For covid the IFR for under 19s is ~0.0002 - 0.00004% BMJ IFR

Yes the fatality rate for Covid is tiny - much less than 1% in general

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I would assume when the mass population has been vaccinated all travel restrictions will be lifted. It will be a temporary measure

Is it not more than just mortality? Long Covid is just becoming evident with very long term effects.

59, 000 deaths in U.K. from Covid19 with a likely underestimate.
Compared to one measles death in UK.

That wasn’t by magic, it’s been a long slog by vaccination.

@Jumbogirl mortality from COVID is running at 3.6% in the UK