Do you think they'll force the vaccine on us?

[Closingtime94]

Just that really and I don't mean like they'll force us down and demand we get it but do you think if we want to travel or be admitted to hospital or whatever they'll say we have to have the vaccine or do you think they'll be more like to encourage the older population to have it for those reasons?

I'm just a bit worried as I don't really want to have the vaccine not because I think they're going to put a microchip in us but mostly because it was done very quickly and we don't know much about it, this is the first year I've gotten the flu jab (because pregnant) and ended up really poorly so just a bit wary of the covid jab that's all - maybe I'm worrying over nothing but it's interesting to know what other people think.

@Crazycatlady83

There is lots of information out there as to why the vaccine is safe and how it has been developed in super fast time - if you wanted to do your own research, you could find this.

I think there will be restrictions on life (travel etc) if you can be vaccinated but choose not to. If you have a justifiable reason not to be vaccinated, it is unfair they are put at risk for someone else’s free choice. These people should be allowed to participate in “normal life” safe in the knowledge people around them have been vaccinated and there is a reduced risk c19 will be passed into them.

I'm going to research it more - I think I'm still a little bit hard up after the flu jab which I know are completely different - I wouldn't want to put anyone at risk by not having it and I would very much like to travel in the future I don't think I want it while I'm pregnant as my immune system is already shot at and I don't think we know the effects it has on a developing fetus (unless I'm wrong, I'll look into it) - I was just wondering what other people thought, it's nice to come on mumsnet and read well thought out responses because on Facebook all they seem to talk about is them injecting us with a microchip or mass hysteria about the virus being a cover up for control

But then the tourism/leisure industry may struggle in countries where vaccination was to be made mandatory. They could face massive loss of revenue.

A lot of well-educated people with high spending power may still be wary of novel vaccines and favour destinations where vaccines were not compulsory.

Same with airlines

@ChasingRainbows19

No one can force you to have it. But I expect travel companies and some countries may want you to have it. Lots of people have vaccines already to go on holiday.... no big deal usually?

No big deal if you can afford it. Its clear young people will be way down the NHS vaccine priority list so low income, young and healthy people will be completely screwed over once again. No travelling (and probably cinemas or restaurants etc) for them unless they can afford to go private.

I understand - I am pregnant as well and so I am relying on other people’s immunity (and it scary when you hear people not wanting the vaccine cos they think the government will microchip you not that you said this of course!)

Although as it’s a “traditional” vaccine I would like to see if it’s safe in pregnant women because I have asthma so I feel if we open up, with multiple people not vaccinated but going about their “normal” life - I may be more at risk than now!

I actually wouldn’t mind being microchipped - I’m always getting lost (probably lost, hours out of my way lost) so it would be comforting to know someone could find me and guide me home

@Hayeahnobut

I'm mid 30s and otherwise healthy.

You may not even be offered it. The current plan only includes those over fifty, and the clinically vulnerable. Providing it to the under fifty group is subject to a cost benefit evaluation.

Yes, I appreciate that. I just wanted to make clear that I feel assured about its safety.

I think the government need to make it an absolute priority to ensure that the reservations people have about the speed of development and long term effects are impossible to miss. We shouldn't have to force people.

Having worked in a pharmaceutical company I one thousand percent will jump for the vaccine, as I see the testing everything goes through

These are the same companies that marketed drugs that caused birth defects in babies. I'm not anti vaccine, but I'd hope people aren't as blindly accepting of everything pharma does as you are.

@Hayeahnobut

Having worked in a pharmaceutical company I one thousand percent will jump for the vaccine, as I see the testing everything goes through

These are the same companies that marketed drugs that caused birth defects in babies. I'm not anti vaccine, but I'd hope people aren't as blindly accepting of everything pharma does as you are.

Which drugs?

@trulydelicious

But then the tourism/leisure industry may struggle in countries where vaccination was to be made mandatory. They could face massive loss of revenue.

A lot of well-educated people with high spending power may still be wary of novel vaccines and favour destinations where vaccines were not compulsory.

Same with airlines

But surely if you are vaccinated, but it’s not 100% effective (as they won’t be), you would be more attracted to countries that had compulsory vaccination as the more vaccinated people are around, the more chance of herd immunity, less virus etc., so less chance you would catch it.

And as more people are going to have the vaccine rather than not, it’s going to be more attractive for those countries to have mandatory vaccination scheme to attract the vaccinated people than those not!

@Hayeahnobut

Having worked in a pharmaceutical company I one thousand percent will jump for the vaccine, as I see the testing everything goes through

These are the same companies that marketed drugs that caused birth defects in babies. I'm not anti vaccine, but I'd hope people aren't as blindly accepting of everything pharma does as you are.

Which drugs are you referring to? Is this something that's happened recently? And which drug company was it?

They are probably referring to Thalidomide was a widely used drug in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Hopefully we have moved on in 70 years .......

I'm sorry, I know this thread is about something that is genuinely concerning you, but it has made me laugh. Mostly because there was a recent thread about people worrying about the armed forces being used to distribute the vaccine and there were lots of jokes about dart guns etc.

@Crazycatlady83

They are probably referring to Thalidomide was a widely used drug in the late 1950s and early 1960s. Hopefully we have moved on in 70 years .......

Surely not, no one seriously thinks that science hasn't moved on since the middle of the last century. That's why I asked which drugs @Hayeahnobut means, as I know it wont be Thalidomide

When you say will they force us to have it - who do you mean?
The U.K. government won’t be forcing it I’m sure - they don’t force anyone to have any vaccine

But other countries might not allow you to enter without being vaccinated and that’s their choice - airlines/events like concerts & festivals and will be entitled to make their own rules too as they are ornate companies and can make their own terms and conditions.

Are you sure the flu vaccine
Made you Ill?? It’s not a live vaccine so it doesn’t infect with you with the virus - really you shouldn’t get much side affects other than a sore arm.

But yeah I’d definitely do more research if I was you check the ingredients etc - the vaccines are all being tested/trialled the same way as any other one - it’s just happening faster.

I was just wondering what other people thought, it's nice to come on mumsnet and read well thought out responses because on Facebook all they seem to talk about is them injecting us with a microchip or mass hysteria about the virus being a cover up for control

Are you a new poster? If you look at the thread list for this topic you'll find loads of threads asking the same question going back months, you'll find lots of proper information if you ignore some of the crazies

@Hayeahnobut

I'm mid 30s and otherwise healthy.

You may not even be offered it. The current plan only includes those over fifty, and the clinically vulnerable. Providing it to the under fifty group is subject to a cost benefit evaluation.

No, the current plan is to vaccinate over 18.

The flu jab really shouldn’t have made you ill, it’s not a live vaccine?!?

@Hayeahnobut you're not talking about thalidomide are you...?

@Closingtime94

Just that really and I don't mean like they'll force us down and demand we get it but do you think if we want to travel or be admitted to hospital or whatever they'll say we have to have the vaccine or do you think they'll be more like to encourage the older population to have it for those reasons?

I'm just a bit worried as I don't really want to have the vaccine not because I think they're going to put a microchip in us but mostly because it was done very quickly and we don't know much about it, this is the first year I've gotten the flu jab (because pregnant) and ended up really poorly so just a bit wary of the covid jab that's all - maybe I'm worrying over nothing but it's interesting to know what other people think.

Presumably any kind of requirement to have been vaccinated (for travel or whatever other service) would only be implementable once everyone has actually been given access to the vaccine, which won't be for a long time yet. By that point, the earliest groups will probably have taken it at least year or so prior, so you'll probably know more about potential side effects and be more comfortable getting it if you need to.

@Crazycatlady83

And as more people are going to have the vaccine rather than not

What makes you believe that?

Aha! @Crazycatlady83 got there first!!

I'm only 32 with no under lying illness, I hope I have the option to pay to get it done privately and get a certificate that lets me travel, go to the thetre, the pub anything I want with no restrictions

No they can't force us - but equally why should they let us on a plane with chemo patients/ vulnerable babies etc when we could potentially be carrying a deadly virus 🤷‍♀️

Also OP have you never travelled anywhere that required vaccines ? Asia for example? It's already quite common.

They’ve previously said that nobody under 18 will be vaccinated and that there is no intention to vaccinate the entire population.

@Crazycatlady83

Although as it’s a “traditional” vaccine I would like to see if it’s safe in pregnant women

Exactly which vaccine are you referring to?