I can't take this anymore

[anonymous229]

I just don't have the energy for anything. Today has been cold, grey and miserable and there's nowhere to fucking go because everywhere is closed. Yes there's the local park but I've been there about 500 times since March and I'm bored sick of it.

How much longer can they keep us in this fucking awful state? I've had enough, I'm drained, I'm depressed as hell.

We've sacrificed so damn much for a virus that kills about 1% of people who catch it. I know that sounds callous but I'm facing the loss of my job (I'm self employed in events - ha!) and potentially my home because of this. The toll it's taken on my mental health is disastrous, but I feel like me and my family (and other families like us) are just collateral in all of this.

I know people will probably say things like we're lucky to be alive, but I don't feel lucky.

I can't live like this any longer.

I think we should all stay at home for Christmas and have no dealings at all with anyone we're not living with.

I could say that - because that just happens to be what I do every single Christmas anyway. I could then very smugly say that I'm doing it "because I care", and "because it's the right thing to do".

However, I would be talking bollocks.

@Extraslice I am very glad that you are getting support.

@GetOffYourHighHorse

I doubt there'd be much call for events whether the gov told people to stay at home or not.These pesky restrictions trying to keep it under control a bit.

Us event people know that mass events cannot run now, however some of us have worked our whole life in this industry and some of us are self employed, and were earning a decent wage supporting our families and out goings. This has been taken away from us over night on March 17th for no fault of our own. Lots of us us are slipping through the net for government assistance.
It is VERY difficult to get another job now at any level. It’s not about the pesky restrictions. If we could work from home and earn a decent wage no doubt we would be a little happier knowing we were not going to end up homeless!!

@Nicknacky Im so sorry to hear that you lost your mum like that

MercyBooth Thank you, it was well before COVID. I only mentioned it because of GetOffMyHighHorses thoughtless comments.

'You went on holiday in August with 4 other households while many of us were still staying home. Hairdressers opened again on 4th July. My first appointment after lockdown was 17th September.This all stinks of "well i got mine" #oneruleforthem'

'One rule for them'? Who is them? It really doesn't 'stink' of anything. I was pointing out that actually things had been OK for a couple of months. Some people even went abroad. I'm sorry you had to wait until sep 17th for a hair do, maybe get your hairdresser's number and then you can text if they're shut?!

Nacky I'm a bit bored of your goading now. It was you who made comments about old people dying suggesting it wasn’t that bad, not me.

[quote Cantstandsmugness]@GetOffYourHighHorse

I doubt there'd be much call for events whether the gov told people to stay at home or not.These pesky restrictions trying to keep it under control a bit.

Us event people know that mass events cannot run now, however some of us have worked our whole life in this industry and some of us are self employed, and were earning a decent wage supporting our families and out goings. This has been taken away from us over night on March 17th for no fault of our own. Lots of us us are slipping through the net for government assistance.
It is VERY difficult to get another job now at any level. It’s not about the pesky restrictions. If we could work from home and earn a decent wage no doubt we would be a little happier knowing we were not going to end up homeless!![/quote]
This. Some people haven't got a clue.

Heaven help us if a really serious pandemic ever came our way, because we have shot our bolt several times over already.

I was pointing out that actually things had been OK for a couple of months

How was it ok for me - and others - to have no income for those months, because we lost our jobs and our sector closed in March?

It's like banging my head against the proverbial brick wall.

@GetOffYourHighHorse , events did not re-open in August. The "couple of months" to which you refer were no different from the months before or after, for us. Why is this so hard to comprehend?

How was it ok for people to lose the homes they had worked hard to pay for, for 25+ years in my case?

How do you imagine any of this ok for anyone, unless you have no imagination, no empathy and no idea that other people are in different situations?,

GetOffMyHighHorse I’m not goading ag all, you just don’t like that I’m answering you back.

Tell me, is it not a fact that it is the over 80’s who are most at risk of death from COVID? Any death is sad clearly, but I have never once said they don’t matter. That was you twisting my words.

But trust me. The deaths I attend are the most tragic that you can imagine and I would far rather pass away on my 80’s than the ones I go to.

And I’m still waiting for your reply to my comment about my parents. Have some bottle, why don’t you.

@Nicknacky isn't goading anyone. She has been bereaved, FFS. She is still right to say that COVID mostly affects over 80s. It's not a value judgement: it's a fact.

Nicknacky I'm sorry to hear about your mum

I have 2 toddlers and to be honest we break the rules and still visit family they look after my kids sometimes anyway (I know that’s no excuse for me to then go in there house but I do) that is keeping me sane so perhaps have some select people that boost your mood and are helpful with the baby and open up to them and see how they’d feel about you visiting them and vice versus I feel that could help only a tiny bit of course. I’ll probably get slated for advising you break the rules but you sound like your mental health is being severely affected and as someone who works in mental health I feel you need to do what you need to do to make yourself feel better! When I was on maternity leave I was all about getting out to baby classes groups etc and I really feel god new mums during this it’s so so shit!
P.S it’s for people like you I will be getting my vaccine if offered (I’m admin nhs so not sure where I rank in getting it) as hopefully it’ll get us out of this shit show!! Xxx

'How do you imagine any of this ok for anyone, '

None of it is ok, however restrictions are necessary in a pandemic not quite sure what else there is to say. You don't have to like it of course, who does, but there has been massive financial support furlough etc. It isn't as if nothing has been done.

Nackers, I've plenty of bottle thanks. I'll say it again older people dying is not ok and high numbers are avoidable if people stick to social distancing etc. Many 80 year olds are fitter than some 50 yr olds.

there has been massive financial support furlough etc

But what about those who have had nothing?

I shouldn't get into any kind of discussion with someone so obtuse - but surely you can see that there are millions of people who haven't had a single penny of support? Please tell me you can see that?

GetOffYourHighHorse No you don’t 😂

You made an appalling comment and not you are ignoring it as you know you were out of order. Own it or apologise.

And thanks for everyone else’s sympathy, I feel like a fraud now as it was four years ago

I'm not ignoring it or apologising thanks. You said 'And let’s be realistic, it is mainly the elderly that die from this. That is a fact' which imo minimises deaths in older people. Everyone's life counts.

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'How do you imagine any of this ok for anyone, '

None of it is ok, however restrictions are necessary in a pandemic not quite sure what else there is to say. You don't have to like it of course, who does, but there has been massive financial support furlough etc. It isn't as if nothing has been done.

Nackers, I've plenty of bottle thanks. I'll say it again older people dying is not ok and high numbers are avoidable if people stick to social distancing etc. Many 80 year olds are fitter than some 50 yr olds.

I work via a limited company because I'm quite frankly not a good employee as my child had significant needs and need flexible working and often a lot of time off. As a result of my flexible wiring arrangements suited to my personal circumstances I got 0 financial support. I took a dividends in April to pay the bills ruling out Universal credit. I am not the only one in that situations.

I am also a mental health professional who during first lockdown barely survived mentally: to say people are just bored is appalling. People are developing serious mental health problems for the first time into their lives. Some have had their existing mental health issues exacerbated to the point they are barely coping. A bit of a relax in July meant nothing. Where I live we went into higher measures and the onto tier 3,

It's a fact of life that meant elderly people have multiple health conditions and there is the final thing that ends their life. Flu is a common one. It's not that on it's own that does it. It'a the final straw, for many it has been Covid if not that it would have been something else in close time proximity.

@GetOffYourHighHorse

I'm not ignoring it or apologising thanks. You said 'And let’s be realistic, it is mainly the elderly that die from this. That is a fact' which imo minimises deaths in older people. Everyone's life counts.

No - it's a fact. A plain, straightforward fact. Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge this, @GetOffYourHighHorse ?

GetOffYourHighHorse “Older people dying is not ok”....do you expect them to live forever? Many of the elderly will have been in care homes where social distancing is impossible.

And I’m fitter at 42 than many 20 year olds, so I’m not sure what your point is about fitness.

'Older people dying is not ok”....do you expect them to live forever?'

Oh you're just being silly now. Of course no one lives forever however it is very convenient to think all these people dying are already at an end of life stage. That just isn't true, many live full active lives. Have you not seen the news at all in recent months? Many requiring critical care with long protracted recoveries are younger people and I'm sure that really impacts mental healthy. So again, restrictions aren't great but they are necessary. It isnt just this country that restrictions are in place.

A vaccine is coming, the end is in sight.

@GetOffYourHighHorse what are things like for you? What sort of job do you have? How is your industry affected? Is your home secure?

Just wondering where you’re coming from really

As I can’t quite get your relaxed approach to restrictions and how you think they are not a big deal (if I got that right?)

Totally agree @anonymous229

anonymous, I am so, so sorry for how you are feeling. When I read your opening post a while back, I had no idea you had three young children at home, had the impression you were on your own and could please yourself (like me). Having kids puts a completely different complexion on the situation; indeed, those with children have it harder than others at the moment.

Regarding your work, I see you are in the 'events' business. I have a close relative who is a musician, used to touring all over the world, and everything has come to a standstill on that front, here and abroad. It is a very uncertain time.

I do hope the vaccine is available soon, anonymous, and that you can avail yourself of it quickly. It will make such a difference to all our lives. Hang on to that thought and please take care of yourself.

@GetOffYourHighHorse Im not complaining about waiting till Sept 17th for my hair. I CHOSE to wait. Because i was being sensible.

Just because i would like to visit one other household at Christmas doesnt make me irresponsible or selfish.

The continuing restrictions are ruining lives and will continue to do so beyond the end. I am close to the end of my rope. I feel like I hate everything and everyone; even this site has become utterly toxic and full of self-righteous coronoqueens patronising the shit out of everyone. I honestly wish I could slip into a coma and awake when it ends and not awake if it doesn't