I can't take this anymore

[anonymous229]

I just don't have the energy for anything. Today has been cold, grey and miserable and there's nowhere to fucking go because everywhere is closed. Yes there's the local park but I've been there about 500 times since March and I'm bored sick of it.

How much longer can they keep us in this fucking awful state? I've had enough, I'm drained, I'm depressed as hell.

We've sacrificed so damn much for a virus that kills about 1% of people who catch it. I know that sounds callous but I'm facing the loss of my job (I'm self employed in events - ha!) and potentially my home because of this. The toll it's taken on my mental health is disastrous, but I feel like me and my family (and other families like us) are just collateral in all of this.

I know people will probably say things like we're lucky to be alive, but I don't feel lucky.

I can't live like this any longer.

It really should be that way

Ah you meant to say shouldn't - with you

Yep bloody phone 📱. I corrected it two posts down

Keep up

Er, maybe read the thread pontypridd and the flow of it. I was originally replying to this and the conversation was last night

Today 00:06Dustballs

Nobody seems to mention this anymore. Maybe they haven't much before.

But this is very dystopian - isn't it? More and more so.

Shutting down pubs, costa coffee and primark for a few weeks during a pandemic is not dystopia

Pre-Covid, I didn't go to pubs, Costa Coffee or Primark.

I had a job and a life and an income and could see everyone I cared about whenever I felt like it.

You have made many, many dim and insensitive comments about the catastrophic mental, social, educational and economic effects of lockdowns, @Flaxmeadow . This is just another one.

@etopp

Shutting down pubs, costa coffee and primark for a few weeks during a pandemic is not dystopia

Pre-Covid, I didn't go to pubs, Costa Coffee or Primark.

I had a job and a life and an income and could see everyone I cared about whenever I felt like it.

You have made many, many dim and insensitive comments about the catastrophic mental, social, educational and economic effects of lockdowns, @Flaxmeadow . This is just another one.

Most people just seem to wilfully ignore the fact that these catastrophic mental, social, educational and economic effects would also have occured if the virus were left uncontrolled. It's more emotionally satisfying I guess to have someone to blame and say that without lockdown you would have all these things going well, but it bears no relation to the reality.

Totally with you OP, so fucking fucking sick of it and I’m in a good position job-wise. I suffer from depression and all the things I can usually do to manage it are out of the window. I really disagree too with the no F2F medical appointments- they are failing so many people. I’m meant to be having CBT at the moment but there’s no point I can’t do it over fucking zoom it’s just not comfortable. Haven’t left home for weeks as pregnant so husband is doing all the errands and going out of my mind. Sending hugs x

I have always suffered from anxiety, but the effect of this lockdown on my mental health is beyond anything I've experienced before. I am finding this worse than the earlier one because at least we had nice weather then.

People who say this is worse than death can do one. Very often I feel I would rather be dead than live in this torturous hell. So many people are at risk of losing everything due to these lockdowns.

'Most people just seem to wilfully ignore the fact that these catastrophic mental, social, educational and economic effects would also have occured if the virus were left uncontrolled'

This!

What fun we'd all be having in gridlocked hospital carparks, relatives ventilated in corridors. I doubt there'd be much call for events whether the gov told people to stay at home or not.These pesky restrictions trying to keep it under control a bit.

Honestly this year was going to be shit what with there being a pandemic and all.

"Most people just seem to wilfully ignore the fact that these catastrophic mental, social, educational and economic effects would also have occured if the virus were left uncontrolled."

There is very little evidence of that and there is a whole middle ground between lockdowns and a virus being uncontrolled. It's not that black and white.

Also, the virus isn't exactly controlled right now, but that's a whole other topic!

'have always suffered from anxiety, but the effect of this lockdown on my mental health is beyond anything I've experienced before'

The pandemic. The effect of this pandemic.

If this is the worst thing you've experienced you've been very lucky.

You have made many, many dim and insensitive comments about the catastrophic mental, social, educational and economic effects of lockdowns, @Flaxmeadow. This is just another one.

No I haven't made "many", or even any,such comments at all

For the 3rd time. I was answering a comment, made last night, about dystopia

If people want to follow other people around looking to take offence at real or imagined meaning in comments, that's their problem, not mine.

Why not just debate the issues, instead of petty personal attacks and nit picking

The situation we, the country, are in is not "dystopia". Apparently to some this means I don't care about the effects of lockdown on MH, homelessness, job losses

I’m not going to lower myself to continue the conversation with you @Flaxmeadow - or rather my brain can’t dim itself sufficiently to understand what the hell you’re on about.

I too am so fed up. How much longer is this misery going to continue for? Lockdown is killing us all little by little, not the actual covid virus itself!

'too am so fed up. How much longer is this misery going to continue for? Lockdown is killing us all little by little, not the actual covid virus itself!'

Who isn't fed up. A vaccine is on it's way though, we just have to power through. Then we'll no doubt have years of post mortems and everyone with have lockdown ptsd (even though it isnt lockdown really just pubs and primark are shut)

@pontypridd

I’m not going to lower myself to continue the conversation with you *@Flaxmeadow* - or rather my brain can’t dim itself sufficiently to understand what the hell you’re on about.

Don't argue with an an idiot, they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

(which may or may not apply to @flaxmeadow, who knows).

If this is the worst thing you've experienced you've been very lucky.

What an awful thing to say to someone who is describing themselves as in the midst of a mental health crisis.

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'thought that the visors were pretty pointless in protecting others, and infact could make things worse?'

Surely if someone is talking and spitting they will catch some droplets likewise if they cough or sneeze. Got to be better than nothing.

My other mask issue (I have many!) it that if you are wearing something that gives you the illusion of doing something (when it doesn't) you are less likely to adhere to other measures. So hand sanitisation falls as does social distancing because people are wearing something they think stops transmission when it doesn't (needs to be N95 or similar respirator).

Social distancing is far better than mask wearing mainly because people are not wearing medical grade masks. Visors are meant to be rubbish but do protect the eyes!

The social implications of mask wearing is something else. It makes us less likely to interact which we need for our emotional well-being (well most of us). I saw parents playing with babies at a playgym before lockdown wearing masks. Missing all those important non verbal cues and facial expressions. It was heart breaking to watch.

To bring it back to the thread theme. We are social beings. We need to start living again not being scared of catching something that has a mortality rate of 0.15%. To give that context you're more likely to die from being struck by lightening.

I feel for you. People in some public sector roles are ok and they also want to shut schools again (they were shut to MOST before).... they get paid even if they sit around doing nothing. That will put more jobs at risk but they don't care.

Hang in there...you are right less than 1% die. Average age 80's

@Northernsoullover

Speak to your GP. They might be able to help. Its around 3-4% fatality rate though. I'm utterly miserable with it too. I totally get why we can't mix unchecked though.

Wow 3-4%

Still not worth the fucking lockdowns for months on end

GetOffYourHighHorse Has your income been affected in the last 9 months?

OP, you're not alone. It doesn't matter how 'glass half-full' a person you are, there really is a delightful rain of shit steadily puddling around all of us. Covid is the gift that keeps taking...
Please try to approach your GP for help - could you do a speaker call with your husband as back-up - it's harder to fob off two people than one.

'Has your income been affected in the last 9 months?'

I've said a few times those with financial difficulties or closed businesses of course I have sympathy for.

Not so much those who are bored, have decided restrictions are a waste of time (despite France etc all doing the same) and think it's only the old and sick die, so whatever.

GetOffYourHighHorse I thought as much. It’s always people like you that have strong opinions on how people should be feeling.

People are allowed to be “bored” (which is a simplistic word for feeling of depression, isolation). But you don’t give a fuck about that, you just think they are annoyed because the can’t sit and drink a gingerbread latte in Costa. Combine those feelings with financial difficulties and you have a perfect storm for mental health issues and suicide.

And let’s be realistic, it is mainly the elderly that die from this. That is a fact.

it isnt lockdown really just pubs and primark are shut

God, what country are you in? Certainly not the UK. Lucky you!

I am single. At the moment, I can't

• go out to my job. I've been working from home for most of this year. I haven't seen my much-loved team in months
• have friends round socially. I've barely seen anyone all this year as many of my friends live a few hours away thanks to a house move
• hug anyone - I think I have had 2 hugs since March as the people I care about largely didn't want to risk it or there have been lockdown rules in place preventing people meeting up
• go to my much-loved choir
• go to the salsa class I had just started before this all started that I was absolutely loving and that was doing wonders for my mental health
• get on a plane and go on holiday. I have family in Oz - want to bet when I will next see them? It's already been 2 years.
• teach the creative class I had just started doing in my spare time
• go to the cinema or theatre
• go and hug my friend's new baby

I mean, I could go on and on and I'm sure many could add to it. It's brilliant if your personal experience of lockdown means just not going to the pub but my life was a lot richer than that, thanks and this is pretty crippling in the bad weather

I'm posting from my empty bedroom, incidentally. I live down a quiet lane with no traffic noise/passing people. The nearest town is 15 minutes away in the car. It is a brilliant place to live ordinarily and it still has its advantages now but with the pandemic I am facing months of sitting here alone night after night after night and I don't really like these long dark evenings at the best of times. I am a pretty optimistic person and very much looking forward to next year but I am increasingly wanting to turn to violence when people say this isn't a lockdown. If you want to swap places and live with this level of isolation, be my guest.

I also know others in a similar boat to me. Three friends have been crying to me over Skype this week just because they are also on their own all the time and they can't take any more.

TheAdventures Just go for a walk and follow up with a nice snuggly hot chocolate. That’s all you need (according to a couple of posters here)

I hear you and I empathise.

'And let’s be realistic, it is mainly the elderly that die from this. That is a fact.'

Well I'm sorry but I don't think my parents are quite as dispensable as you do, nor do I think those with medical conditions are. You do know ICUs are overflowing with patients with covid don't you? Not these elderly you aren't bothered about but people in their 50s and 60s.

People contrary desperate to see granny for Christmas but not that bothered if they infect her.

Also, being bored is not 'depression' 🙄. Of course you're allowed to be bored just try a bit or perspective and positive thinking.