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Boris has more waffle than Bird's Eye...

412 replies

Smithtylater · 11/05/2020 19:23

Why can't he just answer a question straight?
And also if you have children did he just suggest you tell your employer and stay home? That is not going to go down well!

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JamieLeeCurtains · 12/05/2020 21:27

Yes, tax plus NI

JamieLeeCurtains · 12/05/2020 21:29

And the personal allowance was £2,605.

Trumpeterwolf · 12/05/2020 21:41

He strongly reminded me of a presentation I had to give when I knew I was out of my depth. It was obvious to everyone. I’d known before I started that i wasn’t up to it and it was horrendous so in that respect, as a human I feel a little bit sorry for him.
But equally-my incompetence was rightly picked up by my superiors and I was removed from that position my mutual agreement
It’s unforgivable that he is allowed to continue when he’s so obviously struggling.
And yes. It’s unprecedented (fed up with that word) and some issues should be expected but he is just off the scale useless.

Rache49 · 12/05/2020 23:02

Winston Churchill, who Boris aspires to emulate , would be spinning in his grave and would have done a much better job. Dominic Raab has done a great job so far and continues to do so.

KenDodd · 12/05/2020 23:11

Trumpeterwolf

I'm guessing your inability to do the job better didn't cause the death of tens of thousands of people though.

Trumpeterwolf · 12/05/2020 23:22

Ken. No it didn’t however awful it felt at the time! I think he knows he’s not competent and that’s perhaps even worse

KenDodd · 12/05/2020 23:49

I think he knows he’s not competent and that’s perhaps even worse

I'm not sure he cares though, well, maybe he cares about his reputation but that's all.

JudyCoolibar · 13/05/2020 00:09

The best you can say about Raab is that he's not quite as useless a Johnson, Patel and Hancock, but if ever there was damning with faint praise, that's it. Neither Johnson or Raab can come close to coping with PMQ since Starmer became Leader of the Opposition.

JamieLeeCurtains · 13/05/2020 05:52

I liked this. The sublime John Crace on Johnson's 'nonsense':

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/11/motor-misfires-as-pm-tries-to-steer-away-from-car-crash-of-night-before

Sostenueto · 13/05/2020 06:19

Yep dead on. The would be Churchill but not has always waffled.

Roussette · 13/05/2020 07:27

Good article above, sums it up really. And I, for one, am very much looking forward to PMQ's today with Starmer forensically dissecting everything BoJo puts forward. The delight for me is Boris doesn't have the 'hear hear' baying crowd behind him.
A true test of any Prime Minister - prime ministers questions on your own facing your adversary with no army behind you.

He owns this. The job he wanted all his life. The only slight bit of sympathy is... I wouldn't wish this awful pandemic on any Government but that's it really. PUtting aside him getting COVID (awful for anyone) he has been noticeably absent, whether it's laziness or delegating I don't know. Too many holidays, too much ducking and diving.

Now he can't. We need our Prime Minister, he needs to step up.

Harls1969 · 13/05/2020 07:30

As long as you're all alert, you'll be fine Confused

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 13/05/2020 07:54

I'm a lert. We are all lerts now.

JamieLeeCurtains · 13/05/2020 08:07

Musing here. What medication would a person be on, who's been very ill with Covid-19 & lung problems? Might it be something that affects communication skills or cognitive thought, or interacts with alcohol? He just seems so incoherent.

I was signed off work for a total of 12 weeks after a blood clot in my lungs. Part of the problem was getting used to the medication - and, frankly, getting over the shock of it all.

TheLadyAnneNeville · 13/05/2020 09:24

We were all rooting for BJ to be well and recover. He has. Excellent. It doesn’t take away from the fact that he has mishandled this nightmare right from the off.

He should resign.

TheLadyAnneNeville · 13/05/2020 09:28

Ohhhh, @Roussette.... me too! He’s incapable of real debate. I think he thought it’d be like his days at Balliol. Lots of noise and “Fwah fwah fwah!” He's fucked now. Starmer will pick him apart and show him up for the man he is.

Can’t wait.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 13/05/2020 09:30

I see Starmer is now more trusted and popular than Boris in a poll today.

When is PMQ? I want to watch trash Johnson in that cool dissecting style😁

TheLadyAnneNeville · 13/05/2020 09:36

Isn’t it a pity Starmer wasn’t “in” at the last election? Our UK would look somewhat different now.

lyralalala · 13/05/2020 09:58

Winston Churchill, who Boris aspires to emulate , would be spinning in his grave and would have done a much better job. Dominic Raab has done a great job so far and continues to do so.

That would be the same Dominic Raab who gave two different versions of the same policy, that directly contradicted each other, in less than an hour on Monday morning?

He’s no better when it comes to clearly communicating with the public. Being well spoken and understandable isn’t helpful when he gets it completely wrong.

Ditto Gove with his creation of the one hour myth (wasn’t remotely clear that was his opinion) and causing confusion over the children going between parents houses.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 13/05/2020 10:05

PMQs are noon on all the news channels.

If Johnson is like another Tory PM, he is Eden, and this is his Suez. He should do an Eden and get out claiming illness.

In the words of Nye Bevan, complete with stammer: "If Sir Anthony Eden is an honest man, .......and he might be. ......Then .....He is ......too stupid to be a Prime Minister."

chomalungma · 13/05/2020 10:09

PMQs is on BBC Parliament or on Radio 5 live if you are at home working and aren't supposed to be watching TV at all....or MNing

MinkowskisButterfly · 13/05/2020 11:03

But he can't just say I don't know.
If he did the papers would react to that, saying he isn't in charge.

Nicola sturgeon was asked a question, she didn't know the answer. She told the truth and said she would find out the answer and get back to them with said answer. How is honesty bad? It would earn respect.

If he doesn't know the answer, rather than talk shite he should be honest, admit he doesn't know and find out and come back with it. Not exactly rocket science is it?!?!

MinkowskisButterfly · 13/05/2020 11:04

Sorry that was two @mummmy2017

MinkowskisButterfly · 13/05/2020 11:04

*to

lyralalala · 13/05/2020 11:20

But he can't just say I don't know.
If he did the papers would react to that, saying he isn't in charge.

He would look far more competent if he said “I don’t know, I don’t want to give the wrong information so I’m going to check that and we’ll get the information out to you” than he does waffling, getting things wrong and inspiring zero confidence.

Not remembering offhand one detail in a 50 page document when you’ve been hashing out details for days and days is perfectly understandable and acceptable.