Worries about the Coronavirus 29

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Tibble I’m starting to agree with you but why do you say it?

Concerned as have mildly asthmatic child but govt advice does not apply so far.

So I am a dentist.
It’s an utter shambles at the moment for us from NHS England.
Most of the profession believes we should go to emergencies only. This is because every time we use a drill or ultrasonic it creates an aerosol. If the patient is infected, and they could be but symptom free, the dentist, nurse and any patients following will get a lungful of virus. We only have paper masks which don’t help.
Still no directive from the government to close. Personally I am no longer doing aerosol procedures unless the patient is in pain.
If your tooth breaks we can stick a bit of glue on no problem and get it mended when normality resumes.
I am removing DS from school as of today. In my gut I’m not expecting him to go back until September but hope I am wrong.

Has this been mentioned before?

More than 1,500 people have tested positive for the virus in the UK - but the actual number of cases is estimated to be between 35,000 and 50,000.

35,000-50,000 positive cases? That's quite a jump from 1,500; probably explains why "Just wash your hands, herd immunity, lalala..." changed to "Some of you will die, isolate the elderly and vulnerable!" almost overnight.

It's mentioned in this BBC article: UK to unveil new financial measures to support economy

Found this article, not sure if it's been posted before but it's not good reading!

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-nhs-doctor-warns-we-are-already-at-breaking-point-11958542

NC but I've been here since thread one, that's relevant because I believed what was being said back then, I have been doing everything possible to protect my family and business.
But it's not been enough - now don't have enough well staff to do the work and there's not enough work to pay the rent. I know that other people will lose more but I've spent 15 years working long hours, missing out on things with the family so that we could make a living. I'm too old to start again.

Morning world.

All aboard today’s thread to see what happens?

I’m expecting to be given a laptop at work and sent home today.

I have ME and hydrocephalus as well as an under active thyroid. The first 2 are concerning me regarding social distancing even though they are not respiratory.

My Mum (aged 55 and in relatively good health) has COPD. She usually collects my son from school once a week, using the bus, and often has him at the weekends. I can’t decide whether we need to stop the school collections and visits. It seems awfully extreme but I would also never forgive myself if my son was carrying it (he’s 5) and haven it to her ...

Gave it to her*

It might come to the ambulance situation tbh...I'm going to to try and get hold of the commissioner for the service this morning (they are the head honcho for social services) and see what they suggest.

Current situation is that I've two staff there, allowed one to sleep during the night just being woken up when needed (it's meant to be two waking night), and she will stay til 9 tonight and I've two who volunteered god bless them going in at 8-3. Not sure what will happen at 3.

The person who does our food shop is self isolating with her purchase card so will need to get that back somehow and sort them some food out Soon (they had shop to last them til Friday but if they are all home all day they will be eating more). No online slots available obvs.

www.aappublications.org/news/2020/03/16/coronavirus-effects-children-pediatrics-3-16-20

A new retrospective study on childrens cases in china. The link is in brackets in the main body of the text. I find it worrying

Will run out of face masks today. No more to be had anywhere.
Looking forward to the 'expanded testing' as I'm still waiting for a call back (should be within 12 hours so by noon today) to say if the NHS will agree to test service user. I didn't even ask about staff as I was fairly sure I knew what the answer would be.

This is unbelievably bad!!

WTAF, have these people been down the pub while the rest of the world have being paying attention or something?
"This realisation has happened only in the past few days.

However, it is long after other scientists and the World Health Organization had warned of the risks of not going all-out to stop the virus.

The crucial piece of evidence came from the scientists at Imperial College London who first realised the scale of the problem in China and whose advice is heavily influential in government."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51915302

and "The experience of Italy, and the first cases in the UK, led to this dawning realisation."

No shit Sherlock.

Sorry if already posted, here is an account of someone who gave their child with covid-19 ibuprofen
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/ibuprofen-coronavirus-warning-nhs-nurofen-17933855

BTW is thread merging not a thing on this forum? So many duplicate threads makes it hard to follow.

LuxLFC I tend to stick to this one, any breaking news is posted.

the advice given in uk is very confusing.
especially if businesses stay open.
other countries give much clearer advice.

Wish they would just close the schools. Whats the point of us limiting contact when kids might just bring it home?

I have one off school with her usual winter asthmatic cough - the other one I'm sending in as long as school is open - ours was very early to re timetable the day with handwashing slots in hourly and have staggered the start and end times to b reduce parents milling around chatting - I trust our head to balance advice with sanity and am trying to keep things as normal as I can for the kids while I can do. I'm not expecting school to last out the week though personally.

I’d really appreciate some perspective on my situation below because I really don’t know what to do and what is best...

am 33.

I have hydrocephalus and ME as well as an under active thyroid.

My Mum is 55. Relatively good health but has COPD after pneumonia a few years ago.

Is on her 3rd or 4th chest infection of the year.

I have a 5 year old son. At school.

My husband is 47 and works in retail.

Would you limit contact with my Mum given her health? She collects my son once a week from school on the bus and he stays for tea. She also has/sees him at the weekend.

Would you insists on full time wfh rather than week in/week out rota given my health?

Also, what precautions would you take wrt to if both husband and I fall ill... no one to have son given mum’s health above?

Our uni have closed to face to face teaching from Monday next week. Staff still have to go in, and other than no students its business as usual..... allegedly. All this advice came out before BoJos press conference though so who knows what will come out today.

My husband has been told he can work from home by his boss as he is high risk with his blood pressure problems (he did an e- consultation with gp so had it in writing). I still have to go in and possibly bring it back into the home and our daughter is still in nursery.

I have noticed a lot of the "it's just a cold" people on facebook are suddenly changing their tune after berating me over the past few weeks for scaremongering.

in austria and the netherlands (probably other countries as well) schools are closed for teaching, but primaries remain open for childcare for key personnel. open means - 2 staff to all children...

Morning all,

Early bird today because I'm meeting my Mum at 8 at the hospital to support her through hopefully getting a drain fitted to ease the discomfort of the hopefully fluid building up so fast in her abdomen due to her terminal ovarian cancer. My son is helping her get ready for the hospital transport which won't take me with her as I am not essential medical personnel, so I have to get a bus or taxi across the other side of town.

Everything feels very surreal.

Last night my dear SM divulged she will hopefully be having a procedure in the next couple of weeks because she has aneurysms in her neck that may leave her blind if not treated - worst case scenario stuff but even so - my 80 year old Dad isher carer and has no spleen so will not be able to go with her if it goes ahead. She is so worried that she will have to go into a home - she has long term MH issues and slow burn vascular dementia. I have offered to accompany her - IF, in the current climate it even goes ahead.

My mantra is now a steady chant of "It is what it is" with a side serving of whelp.

My heart goes out to @MurrayTheMonk running the care home - I don't even know what to say but hope things get turned around soon.

One thing that has gone through my mind is that every country has a contingency plan for this sort of thing. I don't really see evidence of it at all. I'm wondering if someone accidentally shredded the wrong files and they're now winging it. But I'm a little cynical so in reality I'm sure there are some things going on that have not yet been explained. We shall see.

So to everyone, those with symptoms or self-isolating, people with quite natural anxiety and everyone feeling this virus circling like a stealthy predator and coming ever closer to disrupting everything we hold dear and cherish, I wish you well. This thread, as I have said before is one of may anchors to sanity at the moment, and I send immense gratitude for all the posts, information and for the safe place to share. It's going to be more vital than ever from here I feel.

MNetters, I salute you.

cjt your mum should be completely self isolating with copd. No doubt about it.

You should be social distancing and asking to work from home if possible.

I've made the decision that this is my kids last week at school, it's a decision that I think will be made soon anyway. They are asking for work sheets etc. It's all well and good saying everything will be online but we have two computers for six of us and one will be needed for work at least to begin with.

cjt110 I am very extreme in my advice. If your husband can’t stop working, I would consider moving in with your mum and isolating together with him delivering supplies. Sooner or later, if his job is non essential, he will be able to quarantine for a fortnight and join you.