Worries about the Coronavirus 29

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Remdesivir is one of the drugs being trialled, there are also a few others.
www.statnews.com/2020/03/16/remdesivir-surges-ahead-against-coronavirus/?

Sansa I wonder if we have the smartphone school.

Our primary has been quite impressive in its measures at the moment. As you say cancelling assemblies, after school clubs etc. Whilst secondary has been gathering them into assembly to tell them to wash hands. After school stuff, gym meets still all going ahead.

Both mine are out now, one is unwell anyway, until Easter. At that point we will reassess.

Smartphone 😂!!.

SCHOOL!!

@fedup21 I think mine will struggle too - as well as people with health conditions, we've got quite a few teachers who live in shared houses too, where one teacher has gone home coughing, so now everyone in that house is off until Easter.

Our head is emailing around trying to get staffing numbers for tomorrow, but obviously that doesn't take into account people waking up ill.

I'd like to limp on until Easter, for Y11, 12 and 13 at least.

I think establishing if you’re immune/the level of immunity is once you’ve had it and rolling out a test that can identify past as well as current infections will make a big difference.

I’m not sure how quickly they can do those things though! CW said they were working on a test.

@ventilatorshortage I'm secondary, so not the same school!

I guess a lot depends on the head!

I wonder if parents would be allowed to volunteer at primary to keep them open. I'd be more than happy to go on a rota to keep them open for emergency workers.
I'm dbs checked and work in a setting already. I wouldn't be much good at teaching however.
I'd be happy to do that.

Drug trials are important, and this is an area where there's definitely some hope - if a drug has already been safely used in humans, licencing it for coronavirus shouldn't be a very long process either.

@ventilatorshortage I agree there must be a way to do something to provide childcare for essential workers. I guess it needs thinking through as you need people like cleaners, caretakers to keep the building open as well, but something should be possible.

Welll I’m out of a job, I work in education and the university has closed, I’m freelance too. I may be able to make this months earnings stretch for two months. DH business is likely to crash, the Gov said they will make r regency loans to small business, but no one knows how to access this! HMRC have been fab though - that’s a bit of an oxymoron!

If you’re thinking of chickens, Chris k out local hen rescues, ours has just saved 400 tatty battys. Poor hens from battery farms, tatty and bald, but great layers. Need little space.

I think establishing if you’re immune will make a big difference
I’d happily go out delivering prescriptions and fetching groceries etc if I was immune. But I can’t be sure because I can’t get tested, so I won’t.

Is there a reason why we can’t just trial paying everyone a basic universal income except for disability?

Sansa, re school every thing is more feasible and possible and reasonable if staff and students are allowed to be thinned out.

Yy exxhord

Someone at work is saying that his friend has coronavirus and he's self-isolating now - which means he can't do any work because he didn't set up his access in time.

Apparently a doctor told the friend she had mild to moderate corona, but didn't give her a test because it wasn't severe.

Does that sound likely?

Health wise it’s a global disaster in the making but the economic fallout will be absolutely catastrophic.

I can’t see how some people are going to survive this economically.

Look at companies like M and S at one end. 90% of their customer base is over the age of 70 and they are already on their arse.

Without even thinking too much.

Taxi Drivers
Airport Transfer Companies
Hotels and staff
Pilots
Cabin Crew
Baggage Handlers
Air Traffic Controllers
Shops in the airport and workers.
Pubs
Clubs
Theatres
Cinemas
Restaurants
Theme parks
Stewards at events
Gig workers
Shops in general other than food
Manufactures if anything connected to affected industries
Car dealers - the over 70’s being one of their best clients.
Golf Clubs
Football clubs
Other sporting clubs
Self employed tradesman who rely on over 70’s
Financial companies

The list just does on and on.

The only people I can see being sure of their income in 6 months time are people employed by the government or council as I’m sure the government will pay all NHS/Teaching/Council workers and anyone employed in the food and pharmaceutical industry. Funerals might be safe too.

I work in economics and this is bigger than anything I have seen in 35 years.

Anyone thinking they are going on holiday in the next 6 months is deluded.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-on-social-distancing-and-for-vulnerable-people/guidance-on-social-distancing-for-everyone-in-the-uk-and-protecting-older-people-and-vulnerable-adults

“And the people stayed home. And read books, and listened, and rested, and exercised, and made art, and played games, and learned new ways of being, and were still. And listened more deeply. Some meditated, some prayed, some danced. Some met their shadows. And the people began to think differently.

And the people healed. And, in the absence of people living in ignorant, dangerous, mindless, and heartless ways, the earth began to heal.

And when the danger passed, and the people joined together again, they grieved their losses, and made new choices, and dreamed new images, and created new ways to live and heal the earth fully, as they had been healed."

~Kitty O'Meara'~

That's lovely calmon ❤️

Jay I agree

Need to sleep so had to stop listening but really interesting call in with insurance and interruption to business being covered by the ‘notifiable disease’ clause offered in March. I’m too tired to make sure it’s all correct, but that’s the term you need in the insurance contract.

So from that I don’t think it matters that the govt haven’t forced closure.

gyms and leisure centres
beautician and nail bars
hairdressers

The scale is like nothing we've encountered.

Are dentists working? A huge chunk of my back tooth sheered off tonight. It doesn’t hurt but I dare not eat or drink.

The list is so long and seemingly bottomless, how can Macron do it?