Friend cancelled because she's scared of catching coronavirus..aibu to be annoyed?

[lindseyvvt]

Saturday night we are going to a concert in Newcastle (well we were meant to be )
We've paid for train (over £100 each ) and hotel (£150 split) and £80 ticket each.
Tonight she text saying she isn't coming as she is scared incase she catches coronavirus.
So I have nobody to go with and we only reserved hotel so I will have to pay £150 for that.
Aibu to be Annoyed?
I told her to get a grip,and was she planning on not going out till after this has gone.

Hahaha @lindseyvvt at saying you ‘ don’t think you should stop living’ while also saying you are not high risk and neither is anyone you know.

Newsflash - it’s not about you. You can toddle off on your cruise and Get a mild case and go around infecting all your poor friends you’re making go out and concert goers you’re in close quarters with. Get a grip. We are all supposed to be working together to handle this. My friend just cancelled a trip to New York for one of her best friends weddings as both her parents have cancer and need her to help care for them so she won’t take any risks.

‘Living your life’ does not need to include holiday or massive gatherings of people like concerts. Can you not just be careful and aware of your risk of spreading it if you got it and lie low for a bit. There is such a sense of entitlement off people. I won’t cancel MY holiday etc.

You are like all those idiots at Cheltenham. As long as I’m alright who cares about everyone else.

Not unreasonable. We are in the middle of a pandemic and its probably very sensible to avoid crowded places and we might not have any choice soon anyway. But you're also not unreasonable for being disappointed!

Chances are the schools will be closed and your cruise will be cancelled so no need to worry on that front. I’d say your friend is being entirely reasonable as long as she pays her costs.

Good for you that you and those around you are low risk. However if you get it, have it mildly but wander around unaware whilst you are incubating it and unwittingly give it to my elderly parents, my friend with heart disease, my friend recovering from a stroke or my son with lung disease all because you are taking the ‘I’m alright Jack’ approach then you are the problem.

Scaremongering aside (& we have all seen the media cry wolf in recent times so it’s fair enough ) please do your research. Look at Italy two weeks ago, look at the death toll and the measures that have been put in place too late or not at all (flights arriving into the UK from high risk areas in Italy today with passengers just being mingled in with people arriving on shuttle buses and through passport control - no checks, no advice, no precautions..). Maybe time to stop thinking about yourself and look at the bigger picture?

‘Surely the government would cancel it all’ it’s incredibly naive to have that much faith in a government run by a dangerous buffoon with priorities that don’t include the elderly or vulnerable..

@lindseyvvt*
Are you for real?? You need to wake up and smell the coffee dear, this is serious and we all need to do whatever we can to stop the spread. You have a very selfish attitude and your friend has every right to not go if she doesn’t want to.

Oh @FeeFee382 🤦‍♀️ was it the media that killed thousands of people in China, or sent in the army to lock down Wuhan, or quarantined Italy, or told the WHO to declare a pandemic? That is some seriously uncritical thinking. Listen to the medical experts. They have nothing to do with "the media".

The thing is things are going to get cancelled v soon now as are we are going to head towards the peak of the virus where a large proportion of the population will be infected. Most very mildly, but we need to limit our risk of catching it now so that the nhs can cope with the numbers of people they will need to look after. I think that you can still go on living but life is going to look a bit different for most people over the next few weeks.

@HeronLanyon thank you

The concert is the script.

Oh, well she's definitely NBU.

Here’s a link to the graph I posted above. It’s great for keeping track of figures.
You’ll see up until the point we are at currently, Italy also had fewer than 100 cases a day. Just like us.
Then, boom.

You’re right, The figures speak for themselves

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

I'm going on a ski trip to France next week. There's literally no warning from the gov?? No one is saying don't go?

But it's not just about you is it ? It's about everyone you could come into contact with.

People are being advised to avoid large gatherings so it's just sensible really.

Lots of concerts, conferences etc. are cancelled so your friend isn't overreacting but obviously the loss of money is annoying.

She's entitled to not go, but she has to pay her share of the costs.

OP, you are literally less well-informed about this than my 9 year old.

You seem oddly happy with being ignorant of the facts, almost comically so.

Your friend is wiser than you. But I somehow doubt you'll take that on board.

Everyone needs to calm down. This is not a serious thing and just people hyped up by the media.

Err... no.

Do you think the WHO have declared this a pandemic for fun?

ILL85
The UK government isn't saying not to go to France at the moment.
But a few other countries have (India, S. Arabia) and by next week you can expect that number to have risen.
The UK gvmt didn't say not to go to Italy until it was a bit late, nor has it dealt properly with people returning from there, so what they say might not be the best criterion.

So are we saying the government has got this wrong?!

you must be pretty well off to be spending nearly 300 on going to a concert. Also maybe she is overreacting a bit with only maybe 500 known cases out of 60 million but it is her decision

Yep. Happened to me yesterday too. I was a tad annoyed .. but I understand. Feel free to live your life in fear, but I refuse to.

It's also not just about protecting the more vulnerable, young people can get it and be very ill too. If you get it and are very ill and there aren't any hospital beds then the death rate is higher.

It's about not overwhelming the NHS, not putting our nurses and doctors in impossible positions.

If you just carry on as normal you're essentially saying 'fuck you, nurses and doctors, my enjoyment is more important than saving you from having to decide who lives and dies'..... As pp have said, we're going to be like Italy. (I'm not saying you're doing this now - I'm saying now you know the trajectory if you did decide to just go ahead then that's what you're saying)

The government in this country has acted less decisively and with fewer clear messages than any other government (even Trump is suggesting stopping large social gatherings) - so it's not surprising you're not aware (though you are now) - many countries with a similar number of cases per population have closed schools and stopped all large social gatherings.

It is real. Your friend is not unreasonable. She should pay but we're all going to be a lot more out of pocket from this very soon. Why have they suddenly reduced interest rates? Because they know what's coming.

YANBU to want your friend to pay what she promised
but it is her decision not to risk sitting in a crowded event atm

YABVVU to even consider a bloody cruise ship !!

Concentrate on the essentials, like work and school; forget crowds until this is over

“ don't think I'm being foolish but I am gonna end up paying for a hotel by myself.”

This is the bit that makes no sense. Your friend should pay.

Or is it that she thinks you should cancel and the hotel will be refunded?

It's just been declared a pandemic. I'm not going anywhere I don;t have to. I don't blame her.

Honestly, we know social distancing is coming. The smart money is on avoiding crowd, events, public transport etc etc.

Some people are showing a touching faith in the British government here. It can't possibly be serious if the government haven't already protected me from making the wrong decision in every instance...

This government includes the PM who lied about having shaken hands with patients at a hospital with coronavirus, the Health Minister who signed the declaration that this was to be regarded as a notifiable illness and then spent 5 days before she notified the public (some of whom had attended her surgery) that she herself was experiencing symptoms, a Health Secretary who thinks "more nurses" and "old nurses which I decide might have been going to leave and I have now decided aren't going to leave" are one and the same thing, also a large assortment of other ministers who at various stages in their careers have been sacked for incompetence.

The fact that the government haven't been clear in explaining what should be done or why doesn't change the nature of the illness: I was listening to Angela Merkel on German TV and she explained very clearly why it is essential to slow down the advance of the virus to give the health service a chance to keep up. In a proportion of patients this virus causes lung damage: we don't want to end up in a situation where patients unable to breathe are all arriving at the hospital at the same time and no beds, let alone respirators to go around.

As for schools not closing, I was booked to attend two events in secondary schools within the last week, both cancelled. Universities are talking about closing and running their teaching online. Conferences are being cancelled right, left and centre.