worried about coronavirus (covid19) part 17

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Helpful links

WHO media speech for world plan of action

updated data on this page every day at 2pm until further notice.
www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england/coronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

WHO advice for the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Its not just like flu www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/yes-it-is-worse-than-the-flu-busting-the-coronavirus-myths

Why WHO not declaring a pandemic www.newscientist.com/article/2235342-covid-19-why-wont-the-who-officially-declare-a-coronavirus-pandemic/

Worldometer www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

BNO News bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

Link to WHO report www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019

The Lancet coronavirus hub - latest research and comment www.thelancet.com/coronavirus. Please provide updated link if possible, I haven't been able to make this one work.

JAMA coronavirus research centre jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/pages/coronavirus-alert

Please add in other links for any wanting to increase their understanding and decrease their anxiety!

Round up of one-liners gathered from the wisdoms across the threads, with links...

Work is progressing on vaccine, take 1yr -18 mths for safe use.
First human trials of vaccine started
www.livescience.com/us-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-recruiting.html

Advice for anxiety
www.cci.health.wa.gov.au/Resources/Looking-After-Yourself/Anxiety

WHO advice to the public
www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public

Specialist asthma sufferers advice here:
www.asthma.org.uk/about/media/news/Coronavirus/

A plea,

• to remember to help food banks stay stocked up
• to give older, or maybe lone, neighbours your phone number with offers to help with shopping and medicine collections

Life expectancy of virus on surfaces
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195670120300463#

sodium hypochlorite drum to kill virus

The stance on profiteering from CV
www.gov.uk/government/news/cma-statement-on-sales-and-pricing-practices-during-coronavirus-outbreak

A survivors story - only ONE remember!
www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-51714162/how-i-recovered-from-coronavirus-and-isolation

Irreversible lung damage? Aids/sars effects
amp.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/chinese-doctors-say-coronavirus-like-a-combination-of-sars-and-aids-can-cause-irreversible-lung-damage/news-story/f58f19c5eeae99b845c54e2d2b9305ca?__twitter_impression=true

The efficacy, or otherwise of sanitisers
www.bics.org.uk/coronavirus-dr-andrew-kemp-jp-phd-reports/

Sign the petition for action against CV19
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300403

Picture explaining CV19 scenario goals source The Daily Telegraph

Travelling, making other decisions around
exposure read up, noone can decide for you, but be aware...
Your mode of transport (train/boat/plane) is unlikely to be disinfected.
You may not be welcome back at work (forced isolation unpaid because you decided to take risk)
Getting stuck in quarantine in another country, subjected to their health service and govt restrictions on you.
What happens with your dc and school upon return.
Holiday insurance cover?

Positive ways of coping

Exercise daily, out where you won't be in close proximity (greater than 2 metres)

Eat well, healthy foods, plenty of liquid

Include natural antivirals in diet and good levels of daily vit c - theres research backing up use of vit c as treatment, it.can stop colds for instance, and tests are encouraging

Rest

Take steps to address any raised anxiety, above what might be reasonable and normal steps for keeping viral hygiene under control.
Its normal to feel more anxious, and normal to take steps to manage situation by being well prepared.

Isolation Issues

Getting sufficient shopping in on low incomes, and/or vulnerable / already isolated

Keeping on top of KEY METERS - need to top up yet in isolation - what measures are there to help

Paying mortgage/rent (private & housing associations) if not receiving sick pay

Legislation that enforced isolation = sick (for sick pay purposes)

Huge thanks to all contributors for regular updates and trusted sources of information, as well as being mindful of impact of whats posted so as to remain an informative thread that stays on track.

thoughts go to all those affected, in whatever way.

Primary mode of transmission is airborne droplets.

Sneeze or cough into elbow. Droplets can travel 2m.

Secondary means of transmission touch.

Hand wash to break transmission cycle from hand to mouth, eyes, nose, or to others.

Alcohol breaks down the outer layer of virus to effectively kill, other methods may not.

Use 2/3rds vol alcohol to any other additive

You're on thread 17 stop this now... Surely you're increasing the concern

Thank you, very informative and helpful threads, obviously to be taken with your own common sense.

Do we know much about the average age of the Corona victims who have died in Italy? Is it following the trend that it's the older generations? Not that that makes things any better at all, i was just wondering if the pattern has changed.

Thanks for the new thread.

DD said they've now got 2 cases at Loughborough Uni.

What worries me is that a lot of students are not at all worried and so they are not following advice about handwashing etc.

I doing lots of handwashing and using gel etc but then I'll pick up my mobile or touch my face out of habit. It's also hard to avoid touching surfaces when you are out and about.

Do you think we need to use anti-bac wipes on work loos before using them?

Posted on last thread however for everyone worried.

Most affected Local Authorities by Covid 19

Hertfordshire: 13
Devon: 12
Kensington and Chelsea: 8
Hampshire: 8
Brighton and Hove: 7
Torbay: 6
Manchester: 5

From this it is clear Devon appears to be a hotspot. Devon 13 + torbay (in devon i think) has 5

Devon area total: 17

Mollie that's worrying.

I'm going to be taking wipes to the loo and I already use a tissue on handles.

Yes it is older people in Italy.
Total deaths from the official sources are 366.

I posted this on the previous thread:

"For fucks sake. Just seen Sadiq Khan's post of the big Women's Day rally in London, complete with him hugging people. Great example there!"

That is really not taking this seriously, is it? That's how we're going to wind up Italy mark 2.

I wonder what the impact on the Devon tourism industry will be at Easter?

Average age in Italy of victims who died: 81
All with existing chronic illnesses. Two thirds of cases had more than 2-3 chronic conditions..

Thank you for the new thread and for keeping including the important links.

Let's hope this thread isn't derailed.

We’re meant to be going on holiday to Devon in Easter 😫

Do you think we need to use anti-bac wipes on work loos before using them

No, because the virus isn't transferred to your bottom.

But more importantly, can people please stop using anti-bac wipes. This is a VIRUS. Not a bacterium. And we should not be using antibac stuff willy-nilly and causing more bacteria-resistance.

So with regard to risk for children without underlying conditions. Is it possible that they can carry the virus without developing symptoms - hence the idea to close schools to limit transmission into the wider community? Or is that not how it works?

Sorry if this has been clarified before but I'm reading conflicting things in several places.......

You're on thread 17 stop this now... Surely you're increasing the concern

Personally I hope these threads are increasing the concern. People shouldn't be panicking, but they should be concerned about the spread of the virus.

Does anyone know where they split a town and a county are they all in the county number as for Torbay and Devon above? Is the Torbay 6 included in the 12? The county splits seem odd when they throw in a random town 🧐

154 deaths in total in Lombardia since the beginning.
Today 133 deaths in the whole of Italy.

I think when looking at the Italy deaths and their apparent CFR it's important to remember that there are likely vast numbers of unreported mild cases there. Prof Neil Ferguson was estimating 50-100k a good 4 or 5 days ago.

People clearly think that the British have their own unique immune system.

I can't think of any other reason why you wouldn't be concerned having seen China and now Italy overwhelmed by this virus.

It's weird to think that something which has no life of its own can take so many lives

If it grows inside Devon than i expect a lockdown. Based on Geography it would be a lot easier to lockdown Devon and Cornwall than say London.

You're on thread 17 stop this now... Surely you're increasing the concern

the situation keeps developing.
it is a good thing to stay informed.