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May wedding - caronavirus

238 replies

Dramalamaindeed · 05/03/2020 19:57

Anyone else worried?

I have about 10 guests flying from various parts of the world - none of which are the high risk areas but who knows what 2 months will bring?

Then I’m worried we can’t have the wedding as no mass gatherings could be banned/ we could be sick.

I haven’t taken out insurance but thinking of doing it now but will they even cover it?

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Purplequalitystreet · 13/03/2020 08:43

Thank God for this thread! I've spent the last 2 nightz panicking. I know my wedding doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things but...It's my wedding!!!

We're booked for 6th June. The wedding is taking place in the north west, where we live near DP's family. My family live in the north east. My DP flat out said yesterday that he is not willing to cancel the wedding and lose money, even if it means that my family can't attend. I understand what he's saying, but I bet he wouldn't be saying that if it was his mother who couldn't come! I'm just praying that the govt won't put us into lockdown preventing the north east people from travelling.

I've lost enthusiasm for planning as well, even though I still have stuff to get And balances to pay. It's such rubbish timing. I can't believe that I've been planning this wedding since 2017 and the whole thing could be ruined by a bloody pandemic! Why do these things happen to me?!

purpleboy · 13/03/2020 08:46

Just wanted to pop on and send all of you strength and support. I can't even begin to imagine what you are all going through. The uncertainty is the worst part, your all just in limbo wanting to see what will happen.

I want to echo Heron as a potential guest to 2 abroad weddings in the summer, we are all preparing for whatever the bride and groom suggest. Change of venue, country, guest numbers, itinerary, food, service. Whatever it is we will understand and be ready to support and help in any way we can. I'm sure all your guest will be feeling the same way. I hope you all manage to find a resolution to this.

Frazzle you're are so incredibly strong with what you've been through and I know you probably don't feel that way right now, but you've put things in perspective for me today. I wish you every success for the future Thanks

DisasterousManagementPlan · 13/03/2020 09:20

@peachypetite we don't have insurance because we only just started planning it at the end of February. It was on my to-do list and they'd stopped offering it when I looked. So no insurance for us.

We'll just have to see what happens.

Frazzlerock · 13/03/2020 13:34

Thank you @purpleboy I'm done in I really am.

As @Purplequalitystreet said above and I'm sure you're all thinking the same but, why do these things happen to me?

Every time we were expecting a baby over the past 4 years we tried to stay positive. We thought it couldn't possibly happen again, but it did time and time again. With our most recent loss in January we even saw a healthy heartbeat. Then our baby died less than a week later and only found out because I wanted a 'reassurance' scan - I don't know why they call them that as there's nothing reasurring about a dead baby. After DP refused to try again, the wedding was the one thing keeping me from completely losing my shit. It gave us something to really look forward to. But no. We are not allowed to have nice things happen to us.

4 weeks tomorrow we should be finally experiencing something really really good. Finally getting some joy in our lives, you know?
I guess we don't deserve to be happy Confused

Frazzlerock · 13/03/2020 13:40

Our ceremony venue have just told us that if we wanted to they will let us reschedule for no extra cost. I guess that is something.

TheDogsMother · 13/03/2020 13:43

We're due to get married in early May and we were just saying it looks more likely than not that it will be disrupted. I think we will end up just the two of us going to the register office rather than them coming to the venue, then postponing the rest of the event. It's a small event and we don't have insurance so will just have to wait and see if the venue cancels it. Same with honeymoon flights. No one could ever have guessed something like this !

Jonb6 · 13/03/2020 14:00

Hi Ladies, this might help you and set your minds at rest re the financial side.

Frustrationis an Englishcontract lawdoctrine that acts as a device to set asidecontractswhere an unforeseen event either renders contractual obligations impossible, or radically changes the party's principal purpose for entering into thecontract. The issue of financial obligation and recovery of pre-payments was effectively put to rest with the enactment of the Law Reform (Frustrated Contracts) Act 1943, a result of theLaw Reform Commission's Seventh Interim Report.[46]Under the act, payments can be recovered in full or in part, in a manner which the courts deem equitable. Additionally, as demonstrated inBP Exploration Co (Libya) Ltd v Hunt (No. 2),[47]where a party has had a considerable benefit conferred upon them prior to the frustrating event, the courts can apportion some or all of this benefit to the other party, again where it is deemed equitable.

Yukaplantpot · 13/03/2020 14:48

Intereting- thanks.

So say the scenario is really bad ie people can't leave their region of the country, staff and suppliers have dropped out BUT because the venue has not closed you technically have to carry on with the wedding - yet you wouldn't want to because it's not worth it.
Would you present the Act of 1943 to the insurance company?

Can the above legislation mean that you can cancel your wedding on good grounds considering the situation and expect to be paid your money back from suppliers?

Mummyme87 · 13/03/2020 16:33

I get married 4 weeks tomorrow. 4 guests from northern Italy have dropped out today which I think is to be expected. It’s unlikely Italy will be dropping their situation before the day.
I have cried about 4 times today I’m just devastated. This should be exciting but it’s just made me feel so so sad.
We are due to pay our final instalment of around £8k to venue/caterer this week, £5/6k to suppliers this next two weeks. we have John Lewis insurance which OH seems confident will cover if the wedding has to be cancelled, obvs won’t cover if we cancelled it.
Most of our guests are travelling from Newcastle or Devon/Salisbury.
Just trying to be positive. I find it hard to believe that the government will ban small scale events, more likely large scale like over 500

rumandbiscuits · 13/03/2020 17:27

I'm having a bit of a wobble. Been ok for most of the day but feel like I'm currently having a 'this is fucking awful' moment. I could cry. I think I've been in denial until this past hour. The venue have emailed us to say as of today the wedding is still going ahead but things are changing everyday so basically we won't know until the day if we are getting married or not. It was a very long email saying we need to speak to our elderly guests and guests with health issues about not coming, we need to tell guests they are not to shake hands, hug or kiss. I mean I can understand why obviously but what a bloody downer. I do think it will go ahead on Friday but with a bloody great big horrible black cloud over us with half the guests! It's the time, energy and money spent/wasted that's the most upsetting. It should be about me and my OH but I feel like the day will be about COVID-19 and paranoia!!! What a mess.
Me and my OH have just had words as well because he's off to Manchester tomorrow day drinking with all his mates. He has to take two trains to get there and two to get back and the day isn't a stag for him it's a party/do for one of his other mates who has recently just moved there. It seems so unnecessary for him to be going and then taking such a risk. He says he can see where I am coming from but going to go anyway! Whereas me and my 2 year old have stayed in all day just because there is no need for us to go out so I just think what's the point?! I'll go out when I need to but otherwise I'd rather eliminate risk!

Yukaplantpot · 13/03/2020 17:31

Hang in there Mummyme87 I can't offer much advice but please know you're not alone.
I'm going to reason with our caterers that if we postpone the wedding then they'll make much more money.
Our 2 big expenses have been the venue and food/drink

It's the psychological affect which I'm struggling with.
Sorry to sound shallow but I've worked my arse off to look good for this one day and have a day when it's about us. I love my dress I couldn't wait to wear it

Yukaplantpot · 13/03/2020 17:34

rumandbiscuits my partner and I had a big row yesterday because he's brushing it off, that's his way of dealing with it.
He's flown to Portugal today on a stag do.

I'm hoping that actually a wedding will bring everyone spirits up.

Surely your venue can't give those restrictions but not close?!

rumandbiscuits · 13/03/2020 17:43

@Yukaplantpot oh god! I wish I could be as laid back as out OHs I really do!

The venue have said they will only close if the government tell them to, which will never happen!

We sent out this message to our guests last night:
Hi everyone

We are just contacting you all because our big day is coming up next Friday and with all of the hype and worry about the Coronavirus, we wanted to assure you all that our wedding is going ahead as planned. This will only change in the unlikely event the venue is forced to close due to national restrictions on small public gatherings.

We understand that some of you may have more anxieties about Coronavirus than others. If you no longer feel able to come, please let us know by the end of Sunday 15th March so that we can confirm final guest numbers with the venue for catering.

Both of us are so excited to share our big day with you and hope to see you all there.

Obviously if they get any symptoms after Monday and can't come there is nothing we can do but I am hoping I can get the money back for the people who cancel on us before Monday. So far we have had three drop out and a lot of people not respond! So we will see!

rumandbiscuits · 13/03/2020 17:44

Sorry I should have made the message bold. The last paragraph of my post isn't in the message! Blush

NotEvenTheKing · 13/03/2020 22:19

Towards the end of June for me. I'm quite worried. Need to pay registry office by end of next week and not sure what to do. I guess I should just pay the balance ... guests are less than 100 so hoping all will be fine. But it's such a worry isn't it? I've been waiting over a decade for this and now it's meant to be happening, a bloody pandemic comes along!!

NotEvenTheKing · 13/03/2020 22:23

@rumandbiscuits I'd still come to your wedding if i was one of yours guests. So fingers crossed that no one gets any symptoms etc. Hope you have a perfect day!

Mummyme87 · 14/03/2020 06:31

We have had no drop outs yet bar the Italians which is obvious. Spoke to my grandparents who all plan on travelling still so fingers crossed

Maddzey · 14/03/2020 17:57

We met with the hotel today, they have moved everything to the 27th of October, guest bookings included. They couldn’t have been more understanding or helpful. It’s such a relief. With 90% of our guests travelling from Ireland it was the right decision I think.

Dramalamaindeed · 14/03/2020 18:35

That’s amazing. When is your wedding?

I’m reluctant to change my date. It’s in May and I honestly can’t bear the thought of another 6-12 months of planning.

I’ve said if we can’t go ahead we will go to a registry office and just do it on the first available date. I’m so fed up now Sad

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Maddzey · 14/03/2020 18:53

Wedding was originally 14th April. I think if our families loved locally we probably would have gone ahead with it or at least waited a bit longer before deciding, but with all travelling just the thought of not having them there was bringing me to tears the last few days. Our parents would be considered high risk for the virus so we are just not willing to let them travel. We have been very lucky with our venue. It honestly was not response we expected when we went in to meet them today but they are well aware our guests were all coming from Ireland so had preempted how we would be feeling. They are quite happy to amend all the room bookings as needed with no additional charges too which is great!

It’s been emotionally draining, it’s the unknown that has been the worst of it. Who knows what will be going on by May. There is no way to predict at all.

Yukaplantpot · 14/03/2020 20:34

What about the legal side of the registrar?

Potterurotter · 14/03/2020 20:49

I get married in June and don’t have insurance, we got engaged in December and took what must have been a cancellation date. The rest of the balance is due end of April and with all the extras still about 9k to pay out not sure what to do just going to see how things play out for the next month

Maddzey · 14/03/2020 21:00

We have to contact the registrar on Monday, their contract does state that in the event of a pandemic dates can be changed so shouldn’t be an issue. We get married on a Tuesday which is an odd day for a wedding really so actually getting a slot should be ok.

Yukaplantpot · 14/03/2020 23:45

Maddzey good luck
I'm so pleased you have been able to sort it out.
Potterurotter if the venue decides to close you will be able to get your money back. However what I would suggest is contacting all your wedding suppliers and asking to change the date that way you won't lose your money you've paid out for your wedding. Remember the wedding industry will need all the help they can get so they won't turn down rearranging the date. Also they haven't actually done anything or given a service so actually you don't owe them money. You may have to pay up now but they will legally need to give you that money back if they don't deliver and the chances are highly likely they'll be under staffed or self isolating
For example we have paid 700 for our caterers as a deposit. In total we owe them another 2.5k.
I believe they would rather agree to change the date to get a guarantee 2.5k than keep the deposit for nothing else.

SweetMarmalade · 15/03/2020 07:33

The glow I’ve had (according) to Dp since we decided we were getting married has been well and truly dimmed. Think the realisation that this now won’t happen hit me last night, totally deflated.

It was happening on a big birthday too so double whammy!

At least I’ve found out that if we have to cancel our mini honeymoon we can alter dates, don’t think we can get refunds, which I’d prefer, how can we know what the next few months will bring Sad

I’d been really good with my calorie count too leading up to the wedding, need to fit into the dress I’d downsized for, but downed nearly a whole pack of Haribo’s last night, cracked open the wine and had a takeaway! Sod it!!

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