Ireland - wearing black armbands for a game near October 7th?

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So the Irish football team thought it would be some sort of protest to wear black armbands for their recent mat h against Israel and guess what strangely the Israeli team wore black armbands for the victims of the worst terrorist atrocity in their country. So the Irish were left wearing black armbands for victims of the Israeli Gaza conflict but I guess not the victims of October 7th? No wonder the Israeli players were pissed. Ireland then dress and threw the dummy out the pram by saying they shouldn't be playing Israel again......pretty pathetic.

You can also see how for countries like Ireland October 7th is being erased from history as when they went for their black armband protest they probably very stupidly forgot about the proximity of a day of Israeli national mourning.

I've given up posting as all my comments get reported & deleted . They really don't like being disagreed with. Their derogatory comments about Ireland & Palestine get to stay though. Some are definitely mods, no doubt about it.

Carry on showing yourselves up and proving my point.

‘Derogatory comments about Ireland and Palestine’ you mean a Jewish person talking about antisemitism in Ireland?

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Easy to have a clean slate when you have a ‘policy of neutrality’ that means you never make hard decisions or help anyone out.

I said there are very few violent incidents. (yet) But its not very nice to be called a baby killer. And read the ignorant comments online.

I've studied Irish history at university level, (and paid particular attention to those areas) but thanks.

Terror connections between the IRA and PLO is often given as a reason that the Irish are so anti-Israel. Back in the 1920s Jews like Robert Briscoe saw no conflict between being a Zionist and an Irish Nationalist.

Slán agus póg mo thóin.

I don't think posters are taking issue with them talking about their experience as a Jewish person living in Ireland but clarity is needed on a pretty questionable statement such as Terrorist connections from the 70s

to be fair Ulysess was written before Ireland was an Independant country, but its also interesting that the Jewish community mostly came here when Ireland was under British rule. (besides for recent immigration)

Not saying I agree, this is a statement i have heard many many times from (Jewish) people.

Thank you for clarifying what you meant. It initially read that the Irish (in the main) had terrorist connections in the 70s. However as someone who lives in Ireland I'm sure you are well aware that the majority of Irish people did not support the IRA so their connection to the plo would have absolutely nothing to do with the majority of Irish people or influence their views in any way. It's important not to reignite "the Irish are terrorists" tropes of the past

I have lived and worked with Jewish people @Jewishcraic but I don’t see how that is going to make you less worried?

So Jewish people you speak with believe our pro Palestinian stance is because of Ireland's connection to terrorists in the 70s? If you don't agree why did you suggest it?
Sorry I'm just really confused where this would come from

Right, this is certainly true. In recent elections it struck me that mainstream parties such as FF and FG were very much trying to get votes their way from potential SF voters, so therefore were spouting similar nonsense about Israel.

And a person like Punam Rane is still currently part of FG despite spouting the most outrageous antisemitic tropes at council meetings.

Ok you've lost me with your reply tbh.

Yes, its not a fullproof antidote to antisemism. You can have Jewish friends and aquaintences and still be an antisemite. Punam Rane is ironically a counciller in a Jewish area. (as much as there can be said to be one) De valera had close friends who were Jewish and while he did some postive things for the Jewish community (put Judaism in the constitution for one) he still did some unforgivable things.

But I do think not knowing any Jewish people at all is remarkably common in Ireland.

I don't know what the reason is, I can only speculate.

sorry double post

The main reason would be the small number of Jewish people and that they are most likely to live in urban areas.

In secondary school we were thought about Yitzhak Shamir and how he revered Michael Collins. He based his own groups’ struggle against British Imperialism in the 40’s on Collins’ tactics. His nom de guerre was “Michael”.

The Irish army has been in Lebanon for 50 years in a peace keeping role, and in conflict zones all over the world. That’s what neutrality means, it’s not doing nothing. It’s a highly respected role You may not respect it, and it may be at odds with ‘the Irish terrorist’ ’ trope that posters are flaunting, but that’s what our army does .

did you not learn that most people in Ireland were not pro the IRA in the 1970’s then? So your point does not make sense.

Your point about FF and FG is a bit off as well. There are no mainstream political parties in Ireland that defend the Gaza war.

Anyway, Ireland’s opinion was an outlier at the early stages of the war but I think this type of controversy around sport and Israel, will happen more and more. Most of Europe are against what Israel is doing.

I’m very sorry you’re scared @Jewishcraic.

I thought Punam Rane got a hefty party suspension for her remarks. Is she back?

I think the political parties were broadly on the same page regarding humanitarian concerns about Gaza tbh. I don’t think they were making up their concern to get votes, though maybe I’m being naive. It really wasn’t my impression though, and I’m fairly sceptical about what politicians say usually.

The vast majority of Irish people don’t support terrorists, so the links between the terrorist groups would be more likely to put most people off. There is an element where it is otherwise, hopefully it is still small.

It’s the innocent civilians caught up in the conflict that many people worried about. The children, for example.
I don’t know why some on here seem to have such trouble with the idea of this being a motivator.

Again, I’m very sorry you’re scared here. That’s very troubling to hear.

How many governments and indeed sporting teams are going to offer some condolence to Israel on the anniversary of October 7th. It's as if this event is now avoided due to the pressure of pro Palestinian supporters and it just seems so wrong.

But also affirms the point I’ve been making all along, including the ensuing minimising, hand waving and ‘but Ireland is so amazing’ posts at wildly inappropriate moments.

Sorry @AgeingMillennial, but I don’t agree with much of what you’ve said on this thread.

@Jewishcraic, my sincere condolences on the anniversary of Oct 7th.

You are correct, Punam was suspended for 18 months. (not permanently!)

See here article comparing her suspension to Eoin Hayes. https://dublinpeople.com/news/southside/articles/2025/04/09/rane-suspended-fg/

Punam represents my local area (i even voted for her!) so I feel especially annoyed about it. Not sure if i am more upset about being represented by a rabid antisemite or somebody who is obviously not very intelligent. I think we could do with intelligent people running this city/country.