Hamas to disarm.....

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Have Hamas seen sense and realised there is little hope for their death cult? Is this is a significant moment towards peace?

Wouldn’t that be amazing for the beleaguered people of the region. I don’t feel hopeful though. Would just leave a vacuum for the next group of militant Islamists with plenty of countries ready to pay for them to continue to attack Israel.
IRA makes a deal. Meet the ‘Real IRA’.

I’m no fan of Hamas. But here is Israel behaving like a another death cult:

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jul/29/they-targeted-us-directly-how-the-israel-lebanon-war-became-deadly-for-healthcare-workers

The Telegraph report that under the proposal, Hamas’s police will first hand over its weapons to a transitional body to be stored and decommissioned.

The militant group’s heavy weapons will then be surrendered in return for Israeli troops withdrawing from the territory.

Personal weapons left in the enclave will be handed over last, along with arms held by IDF-backed militias and other armed clans.

A Hamas official confirmed that a deal had been struck on Friday morning but stopped short of using the term disarmament. Egypt, which helped brokered the agreement, was also more cautious, describing the agreement as a “roadmap”.

Israel has not yet commented on the agreement, but a US official said the Jewish state was “very sceptical” about Hamas complying.

The terror group has promised to give up an inventory of weapons, military production sites and plans for its underground network of tunnels as part of the agreement, according to the BBC.

The weapons would then be stored under a new Palestinian administration, the broadcaster reported. They could not be transferred to Israel.

In recent months, negotiators had reportedly focused on cutting off Hamas’s funding sources. They now believe the mounting financial pressure pushed it to agree to the deal.

“We think we’ve managed to bring Hamas to a place where they can’t say no,” one source involved in the negotiations told Axios before Mr Trump’s announcement on Thursday.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/07/30/hamas-agree-to-disarm-gaza-strip/

I find it more plausible that financial pressures have led Hamas to this point, as their funding sources have been cut off.

In the end it all comes down to money.

A member of Hamas’s negotiating team is claiming that the group are making “concessions for the sake of our people in the Gaza Strip, to save them from killing and displacement”.

But it's very clear they don't genuinely care about people in the Gaza Strip or they wouldn't have triggered a war there or taken so long to agree to disarm.

From the Wall Street Journal:

“Hamas and other Palestinian militant groups agreed to a plan that, if followed, would see the groups disarm and lose power in the Gaza Strip as long as Israel withdraws from the enclave, U.S. officials said.
The officials, speaking to reporters Thursday evening, said the agreement is the start of an indefinite, multiphase process to end Hamas’s rule in Gaza and rebuild the enclave. The officials acknowledged many challenges ahead, such as verifying the Palestinian groups’ compliance and ensuring that a skeptical Israeli government doesn’t scuttle any progress.”

Excerpt From
“U.S. Says Hamas Has Agreed to Broad Plan to Disarm”
Abeer Ayyoub, Alexander Ward, Philip Wegmann, Summer Said
The Wall Street Journal
https://apple.news/ASe8sJIRySWOGwHQ7s7vBdQ
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I'll believe it when I see it.

WSJ, same article:

“In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, Ghazi Hamad, a member of Hamas’s negotiating team, said the group agreed to place its weapons in a storage facility overseen by the National Committee for the Administration of Gaza, a Palestinian-run technocratic group charged with the enclave’s political and security transition. “We didn’t say disarmament, we didn’t say handing over the weapons, and we didn’t agree on any Israeli involvement,” Hamad said, adding that the plan is contingent on Israel ending military operations in Gaza and allowing humanitarian aid in.”

Excerpt From
“U.S. Says Hamas Has Agreed to Broad Plan to Disarm”
Abeer Ayyoub, Alexander Ward, Philip Wegmann, Summer Said
The Wall Street Journal
https://apple.news/ASe8sJIRySWOGwHQ7s7vBdQ
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Why it matters: If implemented, the agreement would represent a dramatic breakthrough in Trump's 20-point Gaza peace plan and clear the way for reconstruction of the devastated enclave.

But the deal requires Hamas and Israel to complete a complicated series of reciprocal and independently verified steps over roughly seven to eight months.

Israeli officials remain deeply sceptical that Hamas will surrender its weapons, while comments from a senior Hamas official suggest the sequencing of disarmament and Israel's withdrawal could still be contested.

https://www.axios.com/2026/07/30/hamas-weapons-gaza-deal-israel-board-peace

How it works: Under the agreement, an international stabilization force would help train the new Palestinian police, assist with weapons collection, and deploy between Palestinian-controlled areas and Israeli forces.

• A Board of Peace official said the agreement was designed around "zero trust" because Hamas and Israel each made clear from the outset that they did not trust the other side.

• The process would not advance from one stage to the next until monitors verified that both sides had met their obligations.

• The goal is to avoid a situation in which the technocratic government controls Gaza during the day while armed factions retain power at night, the official said.

The other side: Israel's withdrawal would proceed gradually under a timetable that is still being finalized.

• Trump said Israeli forces would withdraw as disarmament was completed and the international force and new Palestinian police assumed responsibility for security.

• Israel would also halt military operations and targeted killings in Gaza, except in cases involving an imminent threat.

• "All military activity in Gaza will have to cease — both from Israel and Hamas," the Board of Peace official said.

The intrigue: During a recent visit to Iran for the funeral of former Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, a Hamas delegation met with senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps officials, according to a source with knowledge of the meeting.

• The IRGC officials urged Hamas not to rush into signing the agreement and to play for time, the source said.

• A senior U.S. official also claimed Iran tried to convince Hamas not to sign the deal, but said the group chose not to listen.

https://www.axios.com/2026/07/30/hamas-weapons-gaza-deal-israel-board-peace

Israel yet to comment and commit to withdrawal and as @JadeHare highlighted Hamas saying We didn’t say disarmament, we didn’t say handing over the weapons, and we didn’t agree on any Israeli involvement,” ... "the plan is contingent on Israel ending military operations in Gaza and allowing humanitarian aid in.
Feels like we're back to a chicken and egg situation.

Headlines I saw sounded so positive but feeling more despondent now after reading the details.

Oh look a flying 🐷
All ways going to be hardliners that won't give up their guns unfortunately .

I don't believe it.

They're not interested in peace. It's hardly worth talking to them.

I don't believe it either. Nothing matters except the bit that says any agreement is contingent on certain Israeli actions. But does withdrawing from Gaza mean Israel gets to keep all the land it has appropriated so far? It's NEVER going to happen as Israel will say ' for security, innit".

However, a senior Hamas negotiator said the group’s disarmament is conditional on Israel fulfilling its commitments under the agreement, including withdrawing from Gaza and allowing the establishment of a national committee and reconstruction efforts.
Ghazi Hamad said: “The agreement contains a clear provision stating that Israel must commit to and implement its obligations. If Israel does not implement the agreement, neither will we.”
The Independent

Headlines I saw sounded so positive

Just the usual clickbait. Unfortunately. I fell for it too, as the news was so unbelievably good I had to read it. 🙁

Jeremy Bowen on the disarmament:

“But the BBC’s international editor Jeremy Bowen told Radio 4’s Today programme there’s no guarantee this is the beginning of the end.

“There are many reasons why this will not work,” he said.
“There are many reasons why everybody should hope that it does a way of working.
“More than two million people, Palestinians in Gaza, live in the most hellish conditions, in tents, disease, awful hellish misery.
“Equally, Israelis have legitimate reasons about being concerned about Hamas because of what happened on October 7 [2023].
“However, there are lots of conditionals in this. It depends on Israel also being willing to withdraw from territory in Gaza, when actually what they’ve been doing is deepening their control of it.”
He said while Israel has not offered up an official response to Trump’s announcement, the office of Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, issued a statement “pouring cold water” on the whole process last night.
Israel has elections in October and “the whole political spectrum is on the right” and therefore against concessions towards Palestinians, according to Bowen.
Despite the obstacles, the expert suggested there is still some optimism this could work because, until now, there has been “zero hope”.
He “speculated the change may have been triggered by Hamas’s new leadership, who could be looking to “relaunch themselves ultimately as more of a political organisation”.
“Plus they don’t have a great many options at the moment because Israel has kept up military pressure,” Bowen said. “More than one million Palestinians have been killed since the ceasefire, including many children.”
He added that Trump is also grappling with the mid-term elections coming up in November and “he wants to have some wins” before voters hit the ballot box.

Excerpt From
“BBC Expert Issues Warning Over Trump's High Hopes For Hamas-Israel Deal In Gaza”
Kate Nicholson
HuffPost UK
https://apple.news/AD8jjl00OTwyFYu2GJO9BoQ
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I think the one million Palestinians being killed is wrong, so not sure why that is in there. However, there has been a significant number of Palestinians still being killed since the ceasefire was called.

How it works: Under the agreement, an international stabilization force would help train the new Palestinian police, assist with weapons collection, and deploy between Palestinian-controlled areas and Israeli forces.

• A Board of Peace official said the agreement was designed around "zero trust" because Hamas and Israel each made clear from the outset that they did not trust the other side.

• The process would not advance from one stage to the next until monitors verified that both sides had met their obligations.

• The goal is to avoid a situation in which the technocratic government controls Gaza during the day while armed factions retain power at night, the official said.

The other side: Israel's withdrawal would proceed gradually under a timetable that is still being finalized.

• Trump said Israeli forces would withdraw as disarmament was completed and the international force and new Palestinian police assumed responsibility for security.

• Israel would also halt military operations and targeted killings in Gaza, except in cases involving an imminent threat.

• "All military activity in Gaza will have to cease — both from Israel and Hamas," the Board of Peace official said.

The intrigue: During a recent visit to Iran for the funeral of former Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, a Hamas delegation met with senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps officials, according to a source with knowledge of the meeting.

• The IRGC officials urged Hamas not to rush into signing the agreement and to play for time, the source said.

• A senior U.S. official also claimed Iran tried to convince Hamas not to sign the deal, but said the group chose not to listen.

https://www.axios.com/2026/07/30/hamas-weapons-gaza-deal-israel-board-peace

Assuming you mean Hamas, no they are not interested in peace.

However, if they have lost/are losing a lot of their sources of income, then maybe they had tp take this step because they are running out of money to pay their fighters.

It's really good news that Hamas is completely disarm - if it's true it's brilliant. Once disarmament is complete then Israel must withdraw and Gaza have self determination (not Hamas controlled) for the betterment of all of the people of Gaza, not just in the interests of Hamas leaders!

I hope this is true, will happen and peace can be found for good.

Saw this in your comment..........

A member of Hamas’s negotiating team is claiming that the group are making “concessions for the sake of our people in the Gaza Strip, to save them from killing and displacement”.

Shame they couldn't do that a few years ago! Or never launch a massive terrorist strike in the first place. I imagine gradual demise of the senior Hamas officials, then fighting force, and lack of funds and support has made them realise that they cannot go on. We have no idea how many Hamas fighters actually die in the conflict, they don't say, we do not that lots of named high ranking officials of Hamas died and that too many innocents also died.

Let's all hope for lasting peace

Completely agree with all that.

Sadly, I can't see this happening. Generations have been rased to believe Israel and the Jews must be erased as a fundamental aim. Each side will blame the other for breaking terms and reprisals will follow. Not one Arab country welcomes Palestinians they appear to be considered by all to be toxic to the populations of those countries. When they were in Jordan they caused trouble and when they were in Kuwait and Libya they were moved out. How to sort out the good from the bad? HAMAS have poisoned UNWRA and proved untrustworthy by hiding in and under Hospitals etc. HAMAS need rooting out. There must be some good people in the Palestinian population.

I'm going to take the positive from it (perhaps naively) and say that any step forward is a good thing. I remember the Good Friday agreement and similar scepticism but surely even baby steps forward are forward.

So when they feel like another terrorist jaunt into the neighbouring country they just go break in and get weapons. 😂Hamas must think others are mugs. Who'd trust them.

Sadly, Hamas don't usually think of the people of Gaza and only about destroying Israel. Fortunately, other countries in the region realise peace is the way forward so maybe without much support they have no alternative than give up weapons?