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Conflict in the Middle East

Hamas to disarm.....

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mids2019 · 31/07/2026 05:28

Have Hamas seen sense and realised there is little hope for their death cult? Is this is a significant moment towards peace?

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Twiglets1 · Yesterday 06:41

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

You don't know that ... you're making a guess which casts @dairydebris as a liar.

No one knows who reports posts, they are done anonymously apart from where someone admits to it. It's not necessarily a person even posting on the thread (I get reactions from people sometimes who aren't even posting on the thread and whose usernames I don't necessarily recognise, so know that more people read these threads than the dozen or so who comment).

Ellen2shoes · Yesterday 08:02

Dairy readily admitted with a smiley face emoji) that she reported, so yes I do know.

dairydebris · Yesterday 08:04

Ellen2shoes · Yesterday 08:02

Dairy readily admitted with a smiley face emoji) that she reported, so yes I do know.

When did I do this?

Ellen2shoes · Yesterday 08:07

Last comment on this as don’t want to derail but hd to call it out.

I wonder if I’ll get reported again for explaining it?

Twiglets bemoaned the toxicity of this board and I responded by suggesting that as she is regularly on the board, she is just as responsible for any toxicity. My post was deleted - apparently ok for her to suggest everyone who disagrees with her is toxic but not ok to deflect that back to her…

Perhaps if I’d reported Twigkets’ post too, she’d also have been deleted, who knows? Point is, what you said above is just not true.

I wonder if this will be deleted too?

dairydebris · Yesterday 08:15

Ellen2shoes · Yesterday 08:07

Last comment on this as don’t want to derail but hd to call it out.

I wonder if I’ll get reported again for explaining it?

Twiglets bemoaned the toxicity of this board and I responded by suggesting that as she is regularly on the board, she is just as responsible for any toxicity. My post was deleted - apparently ok for her to suggest everyone who disagrees with her is toxic but not ok to deflect that back to her…

Perhaps if I’d reported Twigkets’ post too, she’d also have been deleted, who knows? Point is, what you said above is just not true.

I wonder if this will be deleted too?

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I didnt report any of those posts by Francine. I repeatedly asked for my post to be reinstated by mnhq as I wanted both posts to stand, the one where Francine said Oct 7 was self defence, and the ones where I shamed her for doing so. I repeatedly asked for all posts, including mine to stay up.
After a bit of back and forth a new mod took.a look at the whole thread and removed all Francines posts. As I said, I would have preferred them to stand.

If you say I BS, you show me where. Point it out to me. Date and time. I'll retract if I have BS'ed, its important to me that I don't. Ta.

Ellen2shoes · Yesterday 08:19

Nothing to do with Francine or this thread. You could check out your and Twig’s posts perhaps by using keyword toxic if you have no recollection of reporting. I don’t have time to do this for you. Really is my final post on this!

ImpossibleGermany · Yesterday 08:23

mumumental · 31/07/2026 07:28

You say you are no fan of Hamas, but your immediate response to a thread about Hamas is to respond with a criticism of Israel?

If you are not a fan of Hamas and its methods then why not just contribute to the discusssion on that basis instead of making it about something else altogether?

Can't we, for once, just talk about the death cult that is Hamas without the whataboutery?

I mean, you can do the whataboutery if you like, but it's pretty difficult then, to take you seriously as someone who isn't secretly a little bit of a fan of Hamas.

When someone says 'I'm not a fan of Hamas but.....' It's a bit like when people start a sentence with 'I'm not a racist, but...'

You know what's coming.

dairydebris · Yesterday 08:44

Ellen2shoes · Yesterday 08:19

Nothing to do with Francine or this thread. You could check out your and Twig’s posts perhaps by using keyword toxic if you have no recollection of reporting. I don’t have time to do this for you. Really is my final post on this!

Found the post you were referring to. Where you attacked Twigs and got deleted. You wondered why. I pointed out it was a personal attack and said happy to help 😊. I also then pointed out that it wasn't me that reported it but the help referred to assisting your confusion about why you'd got deleted. The time stamp is 11.53, 12 June. On penny dropping antisemitism thread.

"Ellen2shoes · 12/06/2026 11:50

"You got the actual post deleted then replace it with your own version!"

I didnt actually- but it reassures me to think others saw your completely unfair personality attack for what it was."

That's a direct copy and paste.

Was that your only evidence of my BS? Because its actually evidence of how I don't report, I prefer for it to stand.

Ellen2shoes · Yesterday 09:04

Fair enough Dairy, I owe you an apology if you didn’t report 💐

’I pointed out it was a personal attack and said happy to help 😊’

Taken as ‘happy to help’ Twiglets by reporting

’I didn’t actually’ - took to mean you didn’t replace my post with your own meaning.

Twiglets1 · Yesterday 09:19

Ellen2shoes · Yesterday 08:02

Dairy readily admitted with a smiley face emoji) that she reported, so yes I do know.

I always report Holocaust Inversion as I cannot abide it. The rest I prefer to leave to stand so everyone can see it.

@dairydebris plainly says here that they don't report posts apart from those using HI as you call it (Holocaust Inversion).

Don't be bitter Ellen ... DD and I both got posts deleted on this thead too for reflecting the language back to Francine that she used first ... I've moved on.

Twiglets1 · Yesterday 09:29

dairydebris · Yesterday 08:15

I didnt report any of those posts by Francine. I repeatedly asked for my post to be reinstated by mnhq as I wanted both posts to stand, the one where Francine said Oct 7 was self defence, and the ones where I shamed her for doing so. I repeatedly asked for all posts, including mine to stay up.
After a bit of back and forth a new mod took.a look at the whole thread and removed all Francines posts. As I said, I would have preferred them to stand.

If you say I BS, you show me where. Point it out to me. Date and time. I'll retract if I have BS'ed, its important to me that I don't. Ta.

That is true.

I asked for a different mod to review the thread and was told that it had been escalated to the Head of Community at Mumsnet.

The Head of Community sent me a detailed email response. She deleted most of Francine's posts and did not reinstate the post of yours (or mine) that had already been deleted. I was told that my post attacked Francine which is against site rules, albeit only using the same language that she had thrown at me first.

dairydebris · Yesterday 10:20

Ellen2shoes · Yesterday 09:04

Fair enough Dairy, I owe you an apology if you didn’t report 💐

’I pointed out it was a personal attack and said happy to help 😊’

Taken as ‘happy to help’ Twiglets by reporting

’I didn’t actually’ - took to mean you didn’t replace my post with your own meaning.

No worries, like I said on that same thread, we are both different sides of the same coin. Xx

mumumental · Yesterday 10:52

ImpossibleGermany · Yesterday 08:23

You say you are no fan of Hamas, but your immediate response to a thread about Hamas is to respond with a criticism of Israel?

If you are not a fan of Hamas and its methods then why not just contribute to the discusssion on that basis instead of making it about something else altogether?

Can't we, for once, just talk about the death cult that is Hamas without the whataboutery?

I mean, you can do the whataboutery if you like, but it's pretty difficult then, to take you seriously as someone who isn't secretly a little bit of a fan of Hamas.

When someone says 'I'm not a fan of Hamas but.....' It's a bit like when people start a sentence with 'I'm not a racist, but...'

You know what's coming.

Well, it’s hard not to, because Israel’s behaviour continues to be unspeakable, and they pass off anyone they kill as Hamas, from what I’ve read.

KeeperOfTheSevenKeys · Yesterday 11:09

mumumental · Yesterday 10:52

Well, it’s hard not to, because Israel’s behaviour continues to be unspeakable, and they pass off anyone they kill as Hamas, from what I’ve read.

Maybe try one of the 100+ threads about Israel's behaviour then.

ImpossibleGermany · Yesterday 13:02

mumumental · Yesterday 10:52

Well, it’s hard not to, because Israel’s behaviour continues to be unspeakable, and they pass off anyone they kill as Hamas, from what I’ve read.

Stop reading the Guardian then.

GentleSheep · Yesterday 15:35

mumumental · Yesterday 10:52

Well, it’s hard not to, because Israel’s behaviour continues to be unspeakable, and they pass off anyone they kill as Hamas, from what I’ve read.

One wonders what sources you are reading.

JadeHare · Yesterday 19:10

Is Reuters good enough?

Israel has continued to carry out strikes on Gaza since agreeing last October to a U.S.-mediated ceasefire, killing 1,200 Palestinians in the past nine months. Palestinian health officials say many of those killed were women and children. Hamas rarely announces its casualties.

CowboyBuilders · Yesterday 23:38

dairydebris · 05/08/2026 17:45

You googled 'Bestiality' to prove a point?! Your algorithm is fucked Alan 🤣

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