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rainingsnoring · 29/07/2026 04:07

trumpredcard · 28/07/2026 13:12

What this foolish war has done is shown Iran how much power it has with controlling the SoH. Why should it agree to the Malacca model when it doesn't need to, atm. There will have to be real and guaranteed incentives for any agreement to happen, as they know from experience not to trust anything the US says, after being attacked twice, during negotiations. Trump has shown in real time that bombing doesn't work and I believe that only experienced diplomats, and not two real estate developers, will be able to magic up an off ramp for both the US and Iran.

Totally agree with all that. I don't see how the Iranians could possibly take the two RE men, with no experience of diplomacy on international matters, seriously plus the history of stabbing them in the back during the fake negotiations and the fact that they appear to be in the region simply to increase their already massive bank balances. The US will need to do much better in order to (eventually) reach an agreement.

rainingsnoring · 29/07/2026 04:14

I wanted to link to this video of Colonel Baud, as discussed earlier. Please ignore if you aren't interested as I don't want to derail the thread completely. I thought some might find it interesting so will tag those who posted about him earlier. I haven't seen him describe what has happened before, was just generally aware of the situation. He descibes this at the start, up to around 12 mins.
I find it really shocking and think that the control is likely to worsen over the coming years.

@BelleHathor @KeeperOfTheSevenKeys @RedTagAlan @Ihatetomatoes @Twiglets1

trumpredcard · 29/07/2026 05:06
  • *Ukraine/Russia and Iran /US/Israel wars

Perhaps they will end up merging into one, huge conflict if this continues.

MSM are asking exactly this. Sky News has a commentary on it.

https://news.sky.com/video/are-the-wars-in-ukraine-and-iran-colliding-iran-war-briefing-with-sean-bell-13567855

trumpredcard · 29/07/2026 05:36

Taking advantage of US distraction on Graham funeral and Z and Bibi's meetings?

A brief pause in fighting in the US-Iran conflict has ended with a new round of military escalation, raising fresh concerns across the Gulf.
The biggest development came overnight when the United States said it intercepted a surprise Iranian ballistic missile attack on one of its military bases in Jordan.

Within hours, US and Saudi Arabian forces launched coordinated strikes early on Wednesday (July 29, 2026) against Iran-backed militia targets in Iraq, marking one of the clearest examples yet of direct military coordination between Washington and Riyadh during the conflict.
What happened?
According to US Central Command (CentCom), Iran fired multiple ballistic missiles toward a US military installation in Jordan.
American air defences intercepted the missiles and no casualties were immediately reported.
The attack ended several days of relative calm after President Donald Trump had paused US strikes to allow diplomatic efforts to continue.

...
US and Saudi forces carried out precision strikes against Iran-backed militia positions in Iraq.
The targeted groups were accused of launching repeated drone attacks against US forces and Saudi energy infrastructure.
Saudi Arabia also said it had intercepted additional drone threats linked to Iran-backed groups.
(Gulf news)

The Saudi Arabian flag.

Saudi Arabia conducts strikes on Iran-backed militias in Iraq after drone attacks on oil facilities

Saudi response aims to deter further assaults on vital energy infrastructure

https://gulfnews.com/world/mena/saudi-arabia-conducts-strikes-on-iran-backed-militias-in-iraq-after-drone-attacks-on-oil-facilities-1.500623381

RedTagAlan · 29/07/2026 06:04

trumpredcard · 29/07/2026 05:36

Taking advantage of US distraction on Graham funeral and Z and Bibi's meetings?

A brief pause in fighting in the US-Iran conflict has ended with a new round of military escalation, raising fresh concerns across the Gulf.
The biggest development came overnight when the United States said it intercepted a surprise Iranian ballistic missile attack on one of its military bases in Jordan.

Within hours, US and Saudi Arabian forces launched coordinated strikes early on Wednesday (July 29, 2026) against Iran-backed militia targets in Iraq, marking one of the clearest examples yet of direct military coordination between Washington and Riyadh during the conflict.
What happened?
According to US Central Command (CentCom), Iran fired multiple ballistic missiles toward a US military installation in Jordan.
American air defences intercepted the missiles and no casualties were immediately reported.
The attack ended several days of relative calm after President Donald Trump had paused US strikes to allow diplomatic efforts to continue.

...
US and Saudi forces carried out precision strikes against Iran-backed militia positions in Iraq.
The targeted groups were accused of launching repeated drone attacks against US forces and Saudi energy infrastructure.
Saudi Arabia also said it had intercepted additional drone threats linked to Iran-backed groups.
(Gulf news)

Edited

I saw the reports, and I noticed the language. Quote "the United States said it intercepted a surprise Iranian ballistic missile attack on one of its military bases in Jordan."

The use of the word "surprise ", to make it look dastardly. But in actual fact there is a war on, and it was Trump who tore up the MOU peace agreement. After he violated it by guiding/directing ships thro the SoH.

It's no surprise. Looks like Iran are targeting missile defenses and probing them/using up the Patriots and THAAD.

The "Iran-backed groups" the US and Saudi Arabia have been talked about before here. They are part of the Iraqi government forces. Their connection to Iran is that they are Shia. Sky news refers to them as "Iran aligned"

This attack on Iraq is odd, because CNN says "“US and Saudi fighter aircraft struck multiple terrorist logistics and weapons sites across eastern Iraq in a strong response to over 30 IRGC-directed aerial drone attacks in the last 72 hours,” CENTCOM said." . Odd to me because they say the Iraqi group targeted SA oil infrastructure. But I have not seen such as attack reported.

The Iraqi group are the Popular Mobilization Forces. CNN says this :

"Some context: The PMF is an umbrella organization within Iraq’s official security forces, which Iran has increasingly co-opted to wield its influence in the neighboring country. It is mostly made up of Shiite paramilitary groups."

It looks to me, as before, that the war is being used to cover old scores.

Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 06:19

RedTagAlan · 29/07/2026 06:04

I saw the reports, and I noticed the language. Quote "the United States said it intercepted a surprise Iranian ballistic missile attack on one of its military bases in Jordan."

The use of the word "surprise ", to make it look dastardly. But in actual fact there is a war on, and it was Trump who tore up the MOU peace agreement. After he violated it by guiding/directing ships thro the SoH.

It's no surprise. Looks like Iran are targeting missile defenses and probing them/using up the Patriots and THAAD.

The "Iran-backed groups" the US and Saudi Arabia have been talked about before here. They are part of the Iraqi government forces. Their connection to Iran is that they are Shia. Sky news refers to them as "Iran aligned"

This attack on Iraq is odd, because CNN says "“US and Saudi fighter aircraft struck multiple terrorist logistics and weapons sites across eastern Iraq in a strong response to over 30 IRGC-directed aerial drone attacks in the last 72 hours,” CENTCOM said." . Odd to me because they say the Iraqi group targeted SA oil infrastructure. But I have not seen such as attack reported.

The Iraqi group are the Popular Mobilization Forces. CNN says this :

"Some context: The PMF is an umbrella organization within Iraq’s official security forces, which Iran has increasingly co-opted to wield its influence in the neighboring country. It is mostly made up of Shiite paramilitary groups."

It looks to me, as before, that the war is being used to cover old scores.

"surprise" doesn't mean dastardly.

As you know. You use the word "surprise" appropriately in your third sentence.

Iran launched multiple ballistic missiles toward a U.S. military base in Jordan on Tuesday in what U.S. Central Command described as an "attempted surprise attack."
All of the missiles were intercepted, CENTCOM said in a statement.

Why it matters: This marks Iran's first ballistic missile attack against a U.S. base in the region since President Trump paused strikes against Iran on Friday to give diplomacy another chance.
The attack threatens to unravel the fragile pause and could force Trump to decide whether to resume military action.
What they're saying: Trump told Axios on Monday that the U.S. was in "very deep talks" with Iran but warned that he would return to "very strong military action" if diplomacy failed.
"Not much time," Trump said when asked how long he was willing to give the negotiations. "Either it goes fast or not at all."
State of play: CENTCOM said forces from Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) launched the missiles at 5:45pm ET.
"U.S. forces remain vigilant and at a high state of readiness," the command said.
The latest: CENTCOM said Tuesday evening that U.S. and Saudi fighter aircraft struck multiple logistics and weapons sites in eastern Iraq in response to what it described as more than 30 IRGC-directed drone attacks over the previous 72 hours.

Saudi Arabia's Defense Ministry later confirmed it participated in the strikes, saying they were coordinated with CENTCOM.

https://www.axios.com/2026/07/28/iran-missile-attack-us-base-jordan

Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 06:29

@RedTagAlan you say Odd to me because they say the Iraqi group targeted SA oil infrastructure. But I have not seen such as attack reported.

I know can't access all news sources where you are but it was reported on Monday by sources including France 24:

The Saudi defence ministry said it intercepted several drones launched by pro-Iran groups in Iraq on Monday, while the Tehran-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen also claimed attacks on Saudi oil infrastructure.

Saudi Arabia was repeatedly targeted by Iran and its allies at the height of the Middle East war, but the latest attacks come during a lull in the fighting since Saturday, following 13 days of exchanges of fire between the US and Iran.

The Saudi defence ministry said "terrorist attempts were launched from Iraqi territory and carried out by Iranian-backed terrorist militias", according to an official statement posted on social media.

The ministry said the drones targeted petroleum facilities in areas in the country's east and the capital Riyadh.

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20260727-saudi-arabia-says-it-intercepted-drones-from-iraq-as-houthis-target-oil-sites

Saudi Arabia says it intercepted drones from Iraq as Houthis target oil sites

Saudi Arabia said it intercepted drones launched by Iran-backed militias from Iraq targeting oil facilities and Riyadh on Monday, while Yemen's Houthi rebels claimed separate drone strikes on the kingdom's…

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20260727-saudi-arabia-says-it-intercepted-drones-from-iraq-as-houthis-target-oil-sites

Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 06:43

The Telegraph say: Stop-start attacks by both sides over the past few months have repeatedly shattered tentative ceasefire agreements and illustrated the fragility of peace attempts.

Trump has repeatedly promised to obliterate Iran if it does not agree to significant compromises, and renewed that pledge on Tuesday.

Mr Trump also said: “[Iran] cannot have a nuclear weapon. Very simple. And they’ve agreed to that. Essentially, we have to get them to, you know, make it formal.”

The two sides also remain stuck over control of the Strait of Hormuz, the vital waterway through which a fifth of the world’s oil supply passed each day before the conflict.

Iran said on Tuesday that it had rejected an Omani proposal to evenly divide control of the Strait between the two countries, which sit either side of the channel.

Tehran said it instead wanted the lion’s share of the waterway – something it did not control before the conflict broke out.

www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/07/29/iran-usa-war-irgc-trump-washington-leavitt-soldiers/

Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 06:57

The "surprise" element was presumably because Iran said they wouldn't attack again unless attacked.

Admittedly not much of a surprise that they broke that pledge (and yes I'm well aware that the US have likewise launched surprise attacks during supposed periods of peace). It is a war but it's the timing that would have led CENTROM to describe it as an "attempted surprise attack."

trumpredcard · 29/07/2026 07:44

@RedTagAlan the unedited version of my post had called this surprise attack from Iran the first time it has not been in response to an attack. I removed it as I wasn't 100% sure this was the case. You might have the answer at your fingertips.
What I find interesting about the Houti attack is that they were targetting the East-West Saudi pipeline, wihch has potential for exports to bypass the SoH, even though volumes will be smaller.
Now the Caspian Sea, where Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, and Turkmenistan have offshore drilling operations is a dangerous potential new front, after the Ukraine 'fishing boat' incident. This would be a serious escalation of the ME conflict expanding into Central Asia if Iran decided a tit for tat strike or two against drilling operations.

Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 08:17

The retaliatory attacks by the US and Saudi Arabia mark the first time Saudi Arabia has publicly joined the war in months after previously carrying out secret strikes against Iran.

trumpredcard · 29/07/2026 09:05

@RedTagAlan 's gone dark, hope MN is restored soon.

trumpredcard · 29/07/2026 09:11

BBC analyst now reporting that US and Iran traded strikes and that SA joint action with the US is an attempt to deter further proxy/direct strikes. Hmmm.

TopPocketFind · 29/07/2026 09:43

July 29 (Reuters) - Iran is expected to receive within weeks a first shipment out of up to 400 Chinese-made shoulder-fired air-defence missile launchers, three sources familiar with the deal told Reuters, as it rebuilds its defences amid war with the United States.

The purchase, valued at $60-70 million, is one of Tehran's largest-known efforts to strengthen its short-range air defences since the outbreak of its war with the U.S. and Israel, which exposed gaps in Iran's ability to protect military sites and strategic infrastructure.

The contract covers the purchase of between 300 and 400 man-portable air defence systems (MANPADS), including Chinese-made QW-12 and FN-16 missiles, the sources said.

The deal was signed with Zhongqing Baoshang International Investment, a Hong Kong-based company that the sources said was acting as an intermediary between the Iranian side and the Chinese supplier.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iran-get-chinese-shoulder-launched-missile-systems-weeks-sources-say-2026-07-29/

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Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 09:57

It’s becoming more transparent where all the allegiances lie.

The IRGC don’t have many countries on their side but they do have China & Russia who are obviously powerful.

TopPocketFind · 29/07/2026 11:03

Reuters

Oman proposed a plan for joint regional control of the strait this week, with the backing of Gulf states, that would allow the payment of voluntary service charges. But a senior Iranian official told Reuters on Wednesday that Iran had rejected the Omani proposal as "unreasonable".

The official said a 50-50 joint control arrangement with Oman would not serve Iran’s interests, though Tehran considers Oman a valuable neighbour. Iran wants sole control over the inbound route through the strait and partial control over the outbound route.

The United States has been telling ships to use a route near the Omani shore rather than sailing close to Iran. The Revolutionary Guards Navy said in a statement it continued to maintain full control over the strait and would respond to "unlawful U.S. military interference".

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Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 11:21

I wonder why Iran thinks it’s only their interests that matter not Oman’s. The Oman proposal sounds more reasonable to share control of the Strait.

JadeHare · 29/07/2026 12:10

I read this opinion on Donny.

“He is the single stupidest public negotiator in the history of American government and the whole world knows it,” he said. “Iran knows it. Even the propagandists at Fox can no longer pretend to believe Donald Trump when he says he is talking to members of the Iranian regime.”

JadeHare · 29/07/2026 12:16

I thought this was interesting from the ipaper:

By hitting the Iranian cargo ship Ana in the Caspian Sea on Saturday, killing one crewman, Ukraine is deliberately seeking to connect its war with Russia with the USA’s against Iran. The fear is that this could even spill over into Europe – with consequences we cannot predict.
“Moscow and Tehran have a long and complex relationship. Both regard themselves as under threat from a hostile West, but at the same time have distinctly different interests. Indeed, the Kremlin has considered Iran also to be a rival for influence in the Middle East and the South Caucasus.
When Russia bogged down in Ukraine in 2022, it turned to Iran to buy drones and missiles. Russia soon developed them further, and fed its experiences and upgrades back to Tehran, as well as the battlefield experience of co-ordinated drone and missile attacks that could penetrate advanced, Western-built air defences.
In January 2025, Vladimir Putin and the Iranian President, Masoud Pezeshkian, signed a 20-year strategic partnership. Longer on rhetoric than firm commitments, it didn’t include an agreement on mutual defence. Ironically enough, this was at Tehran’s request – something it may regret.”
“Nonetheless, Moscow has supported it through arm’s length measures. With Ukraine’s long-range strikes deep into Russia relying heavily on US targeting and intelligence data, Moscow has reciprocated with data from electronic intercepts and satellite monitoring that have helped Iran strike at US and allied military assets in the region.”
“Kyiv is painfully aware of the constant need to maintain Western support. Given the degree to which Donald Trump has seemed more sympathetic to Putin, President Volodymyr Zelensky is especially eager to forge a closer relationship with the White House.
Ukraine has already offered its own counter-drone expertise to Gulf states. The United Arab Emirates has ordered 5,000 of its interceptor drones, while more than 200 military advisers and technicians have been deployed to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE, as well as Jordan, where they work alongside the US military.
This month, Zelensky announced that Ukraine was creating a dedicated Long-Range Strike Command tasked, in his words, with “concentrating all available resources to reduce Russia’s war potential”. It will control most of the stocks of long-range attack drones like the one that hit the Ana. ”
“This largely means the attacks across Russia, striking both military and civilian infrastructure such as energy sites, factories and ports. However, this command will also work with the Ukrainian intelligence agencies, which have mounted sabotage attacks against Russian assets in Africa and Europe. The implication is that it will also be involved in operations outside the primary conflict zone.
Kyiv claimed that the Ana was carrying drone and missile components when it was hit. However, it had just left the Russian port city of Astrakhan. In other words, it was supplying not the Russian but Iranian war machine.
Unsurprisingly, Tehran has reacted with fury. But for Kyiv, provoking Tehran was probably the idea. Just as its operations against Russian mercenaries in Sudan and Mali were spun as in part a gesture of support for France, which was alarmed by the spread of Moscow’s influence in Africa, so too Ukraine wants to present itself as a useful ally in the current Gulf conflict. ”
“Iran increasingly relies on the Caspian Sea to bypass blockades of its southern ports on the Persian Gulf. By demonstrating that it has the capacity and will to interdict these routes, Kyiv is seeking not just to put pressure on Tehran but also demonstrate its value to Israel and the United States.
There is, of course, a flip side, in that Ukraine’s actions may also widen both conflicts in unpredictable ways.
Iranian commentators have pointedly noted that Kyiv is within the range of their missiles. Their Ukrainian counterparts have countered with warnings that their Flamingo cruise missiles could reach Tehran. It is unlikely that there will be such exchanges of fire for the moment, though.
Meanwhile, just days ago Iran accused the UK of being an “accomplice” in the US war, pointing to American bombing sorties out of RAF Fairford. Its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) warned that “any base used for aggression against Iranian territory constitutes a legitimate target for our forces”.”
“A particular concern is that Iran will respond by supporting Russia’s campaign of subversion and sabotage in Europe. Tehran needs Putin’s support more than ever. It may well also want to punish the West for its support of Ukraine.
The IRGC notoriously maintains networks of operatives in Europe, as well as close links with a number of organised crime gangs thanks to its control over the routes whereby Afghan heroin travels west through the Middle East.
In particular, while the Russians are considered stronger in cyber operations and recruiting deniable “disposable assets”, the Iranians are better able to leverage connections within jihadist circles and also have access to greater operational funds thanks to their drug connections.
As a French security source told The i Paper, “the IRGC is a dangerous and ruthless organisation. Combining its capabilities with those of the Russians would create an unpredictable security threat that I’m not sure we’re ready for”.”

Excerpt From
“Putin's war has collided with Trump's. The threat to us all is rising”
Dr Mark Galeotti
The i Paper
https://apple.news/Afd2ZAZkXQOuFu9WdsTVDGA
This material may be protected by copyright.

Iran Crisis - The i Paper

Impartial news & intelligent debate

https://inews.co.uk/topic/iran-crisis?srsltid=AfmBOorr5oelU8_bGhN-MPtMOF83EuDOW2WxuKYqBbx2F93dInZmwvMc

Ihatetomatoes · 29/07/2026 12:19

JadeHare · 29/07/2026 12:16

I thought this was interesting from the ipaper:

By hitting the Iranian cargo ship Ana in the Caspian Sea on Saturday, killing one crewman, Ukraine is deliberately seeking to connect its war with Russia with the USA’s against Iran. The fear is that this could even spill over into Europe – with consequences we cannot predict.
“Moscow and Tehran have a long and complex relationship. Both regard themselves as under threat from a hostile West, but at the same time have distinctly different interests. Indeed, the Kremlin has considered Iran also to be a rival for influence in the Middle East and the South Caucasus.
When Russia bogged down in Ukraine in 2022, it turned to Iran to buy drones and missiles. Russia soon developed them further, and fed its experiences and upgrades back to Tehran, as well as the battlefield experience of co-ordinated drone and missile attacks that could penetrate advanced, Western-built air defences.
In January 2025, Vladimir Putin and the Iranian President, Masoud Pezeshkian, signed a 20-year strategic partnership. Longer on rhetoric than firm commitments, it didn’t include an agreement on mutual defence. Ironically enough, this was at Tehran’s request – something it may regret.”
“Nonetheless, Moscow has supported it through arm’s length measures. With Ukraine’s long-range strikes deep into Russia relying heavily on US targeting and intelligence data, Moscow has reciprocated with data from electronic intercepts and satellite monitoring that have helped Iran strike at US and allied military assets in the region.”
“Kyiv is painfully aware of the constant need to maintain Western support. Given the degree to which Donald Trump has seemed more sympathetic to Putin, President Volodymyr Zelensky is especially eager to forge a closer relationship with the White House.
Ukraine has already offered its own counter-drone expertise to Gulf states. The United Arab Emirates has ordered 5,000 of its interceptor drones, while more than 200 military advisers and technicians have been deployed to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE, as well as Jordan, where they work alongside the US military.
This month, Zelensky announced that Ukraine was creating a dedicated Long-Range Strike Command tasked, in his words, with “concentrating all available resources to reduce Russia’s war potential”. It will control most of the stocks of long-range attack drones like the one that hit the Ana. ”
“This largely means the attacks across Russia, striking both military and civilian infrastructure such as energy sites, factories and ports. However, this command will also work with the Ukrainian intelligence agencies, which have mounted sabotage attacks against Russian assets in Africa and Europe. The implication is that it will also be involved in operations outside the primary conflict zone.
Kyiv claimed that the Ana was carrying drone and missile components when it was hit. However, it had just left the Russian port city of Astrakhan. In other words, it was supplying not the Russian but Iranian war machine.
Unsurprisingly, Tehran has reacted with fury. But for Kyiv, provoking Tehran was probably the idea. Just as its operations against Russian mercenaries in Sudan and Mali were spun as in part a gesture of support for France, which was alarmed by the spread of Moscow’s influence in Africa, so too Ukraine wants to present itself as a useful ally in the current Gulf conflict. ”
“Iran increasingly relies on the Caspian Sea to bypass blockades of its southern ports on the Persian Gulf. By demonstrating that it has the capacity and will to interdict these routes, Kyiv is seeking not just to put pressure on Tehran but also demonstrate its value to Israel and the United States.
There is, of course, a flip side, in that Ukraine’s actions may also widen both conflicts in unpredictable ways.
Iranian commentators have pointedly noted that Kyiv is within the range of their missiles. Their Ukrainian counterparts have countered with warnings that their Flamingo cruise missiles could reach Tehran. It is unlikely that there will be such exchanges of fire for the moment, though.
Meanwhile, just days ago Iran accused the UK of being an “accomplice” in the US war, pointing to American bombing sorties out of RAF Fairford. Its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) warned that “any base used for aggression against Iranian territory constitutes a legitimate target for our forces”.”
“A particular concern is that Iran will respond by supporting Russia’s campaign of subversion and sabotage in Europe. Tehran needs Putin’s support more than ever. It may well also want to punish the West for its support of Ukraine.
The IRGC notoriously maintains networks of operatives in Europe, as well as close links with a number of organised crime gangs thanks to its control over the routes whereby Afghan heroin travels west through the Middle East.
In particular, while the Russians are considered stronger in cyber operations and recruiting deniable “disposable assets”, the Iranians are better able to leverage connections within jihadist circles and also have access to greater operational funds thanks to their drug connections.
As a French security source told The i Paper, “the IRGC is a dangerous and ruthless organisation. Combining its capabilities with those of the Russians would create an unpredictable security threat that I’m not sure we’re ready for”.”

Excerpt From
“Putin's war has collided with Trump's. The threat to us all is rising”
Dr Mark Galeotti
The i Paper
https://apple.news/Afd2ZAZkXQOuFu9WdsTVDGA
This material may be protected by copyright.

Interesting article.

Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 12:29

JadeHare · 29/07/2026 12:10

I read this opinion on Donny.

“He is the single stupidest public negotiator in the history of American government and the whole world knows it,” he said. “Iran knows it. Even the propagandists at Fox can no longer pretend to believe Donald Trump when he says he is talking to members of the Iranian regime.”

That sounds childishly written like the way Trump himself talks.

The “single stupidest” 😂

Stupidist would have done. Or as a more literate person might put it, most stupid.

JadeHare · 29/07/2026 12:51

Being fully aware of the more than one syllable rule, most stupid would be considered grammatically correct, and should be used when writing. However, I looked it up, “stupidest” is considered allowed when speaking. What is the world coming to?

Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 12:55

JadeHare · 29/07/2026 12:51

Being fully aware of the more than one syllable rule, most stupid would be considered grammatically correct, and should be used when writing. However, I looked it up, “stupidest” is considered allowed when speaking. What is the world coming to?

Most stupid would have been better.

Single stupidest sounds unintelligent. .

TopPocketFind · 29/07/2026 12:55

Twiglets1 · 29/07/2026 12:29

That sounds childishly written like the way Trump himself talks.

The “single stupidest” 😂

Stupidist would have done. Or as a more literate person might put it, most stupid.

I guess it depends on the intended audience?

I suppose it would work for the MAGA base

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rainingsnoring · 29/07/2026 12:58

JadeHare · 29/07/2026 12:16

I thought this was interesting from the ipaper:

By hitting the Iranian cargo ship Ana in the Caspian Sea on Saturday, killing one crewman, Ukraine is deliberately seeking to connect its war with Russia with the USA’s against Iran. The fear is that this could even spill over into Europe – with consequences we cannot predict.
“Moscow and Tehran have a long and complex relationship. Both regard themselves as under threat from a hostile West, but at the same time have distinctly different interests. Indeed, the Kremlin has considered Iran also to be a rival for influence in the Middle East and the South Caucasus.
When Russia bogged down in Ukraine in 2022, it turned to Iran to buy drones and missiles. Russia soon developed them further, and fed its experiences and upgrades back to Tehran, as well as the battlefield experience of co-ordinated drone and missile attacks that could penetrate advanced, Western-built air defences.
In January 2025, Vladimir Putin and the Iranian President, Masoud Pezeshkian, signed a 20-year strategic partnership. Longer on rhetoric than firm commitments, it didn’t include an agreement on mutual defence. Ironically enough, this was at Tehran’s request – something it may regret.”
“Nonetheless, Moscow has supported it through arm’s length measures. With Ukraine’s long-range strikes deep into Russia relying heavily on US targeting and intelligence data, Moscow has reciprocated with data from electronic intercepts and satellite monitoring that have helped Iran strike at US and allied military assets in the region.”
“Kyiv is painfully aware of the constant need to maintain Western support. Given the degree to which Donald Trump has seemed more sympathetic to Putin, President Volodymyr Zelensky is especially eager to forge a closer relationship with the White House.
Ukraine has already offered its own counter-drone expertise to Gulf states. The United Arab Emirates has ordered 5,000 of its interceptor drones, while more than 200 military advisers and technicians have been deployed to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the UAE, as well as Jordan, where they work alongside the US military.
This month, Zelensky announced that Ukraine was creating a dedicated Long-Range Strike Command tasked, in his words, with “concentrating all available resources to reduce Russia’s war potential”. It will control most of the stocks of long-range attack drones like the one that hit the Ana. ”
“This largely means the attacks across Russia, striking both military and civilian infrastructure such as energy sites, factories and ports. However, this command will also work with the Ukrainian intelligence agencies, which have mounted sabotage attacks against Russian assets in Africa and Europe. The implication is that it will also be involved in operations outside the primary conflict zone.
Kyiv claimed that the Ana was carrying drone and missile components when it was hit. However, it had just left the Russian port city of Astrakhan. In other words, it was supplying not the Russian but Iranian war machine.
Unsurprisingly, Tehran has reacted with fury. But for Kyiv, provoking Tehran was probably the idea. Just as its operations against Russian mercenaries in Sudan and Mali were spun as in part a gesture of support for France, which was alarmed by the spread of Moscow’s influence in Africa, so too Ukraine wants to present itself as a useful ally in the current Gulf conflict. ”
“Iran increasingly relies on the Caspian Sea to bypass blockades of its southern ports on the Persian Gulf. By demonstrating that it has the capacity and will to interdict these routes, Kyiv is seeking not just to put pressure on Tehran but also demonstrate its value to Israel and the United States.
There is, of course, a flip side, in that Ukraine’s actions may also widen both conflicts in unpredictable ways.
Iranian commentators have pointedly noted that Kyiv is within the range of their missiles. Their Ukrainian counterparts have countered with warnings that their Flamingo cruise missiles could reach Tehran. It is unlikely that there will be such exchanges of fire for the moment, though.
Meanwhile, just days ago Iran accused the UK of being an “accomplice” in the US war, pointing to American bombing sorties out of RAF Fairford. Its Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) warned that “any base used for aggression against Iranian territory constitutes a legitimate target for our forces”.”
“A particular concern is that Iran will respond by supporting Russia’s campaign of subversion and sabotage in Europe. Tehran needs Putin’s support more than ever. It may well also want to punish the West for its support of Ukraine.
The IRGC notoriously maintains networks of operatives in Europe, as well as close links with a number of organised crime gangs thanks to its control over the routes whereby Afghan heroin travels west through the Middle East.
In particular, while the Russians are considered stronger in cyber operations and recruiting deniable “disposable assets”, the Iranians are better able to leverage connections within jihadist circles and also have access to greater operational funds thanks to their drug connections.
As a French security source told The i Paper, “the IRGC is a dangerous and ruthless organisation. Combining its capabilities with those of the Russians would create an unpredictable security threat that I’m not sure we’re ready for”.”

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“Putin's war has collided with Trump's. The threat to us all is rising”
Dr Mark Galeotti
The i Paper
https://apple.news/Afd2ZAZkXQOuFu9WdsTVDGA
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I've only read the first paragraph fully and agree with the writer here. I said this the other day in response to a post about it making sense strategically for the Ukrainians to attack the Iranian vessel:
'Sure but you could also argue that it makes sense for Russia to ask the Iranians to attack Europe, who are supplying the Ukrainians with their weapons.
All of it is bad and just escalates these wars. Perhaps they will end up merging into one, huge conflict if this continues.'

My concern is the potential for escalation from one thing on top of another. How do people think the WWs started? What provokes the use of nuclear weapons? These things are all possibilities, maybe not next week but in the next year or two, maybe more, perhaps.