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trumpredcard · 20/07/2026 14:35

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 09:39

The same reasoning can be applied by Iran for their Minab dead. Only those defenceless children never had the chance to grow up to be 'heroes'.

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 14:36

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 14:12

Where is the Pro Trump thread? I think the bloke is a mad man, narcissist, liar, etc. Im definitely not pro Trump. I'd be surprised if many, apart from his US backers support him.

Here you go. It never got filled, so still some space to post.

There was a lack of positives... somewhat.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5483302-a-pro-trump-thread-to-balance-the-154-anti-trump-threads

A pro Trump thread to balance the 154 anti Trump threads! | Mumsnet

Thought I’d be brave and start a pro-Trump thread for a change, after all, there are so many anti-Trump ones , we need some balance! I even tried comm...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5483302-a-pro-trump-thread-to-balance-the-154-anti-trump-threads

Twiglets1 · 20/07/2026 15:01

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 14:12

Where is the Pro Trump thread? I think the bloke is a mad man, narcissist, liar, etc. Im definitely not pro Trump. I'd be surprised if many, apart from his US backers support him.

There is no pro Trump thread.

I think to some - if you're not frothing at the mouth critiquing Trump each day you must tacitly support him.

Actually not seen anyone on these threads deny that he is a narcissistic nutter.

Twiglets1 · 20/07/2026 15:08

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 14:36

Here you go. It never got filled, so still some space to post.

There was a lack of positives... somewhat.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5483302-a-pro-trump-thread-to-balance-the-154-anti-trump-threads

Oh wow, you found one.

Not on the CITME board so your challenge to people on here makes no sense.

In fact, as a challenge for the pro Trump thread, I wonder if any pro Trumpers can name a single thing he has been honest about.

I expect I could think of a few things he has been honest about like his love of McDonalds but really, what's the point?? You should post on that thread if you want to debate it more today.

Twiglets1 · 20/07/2026 15:13

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 13:30

Iran appear very unpredictable. They were lobbing missiles into various middle eastern countries when in a war with America. They also fund various terrorist organisations which keep the middle east unstable.

Note. They aren't the only unpredictable nation, but other don't fund or encourage terrorist actions in a range of countries.

Very unpredictable ... though I wonder if they have anything left apart from weaponizing the Strait of Hormuz and terrorising various Middle Eastern countries thus isolating themselves from potential allies.

Could be an own goal that one.

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 15:17

TDS is it ?

On thread about a war that Trump started.

And "There is no pro Trump thread.", right below a thread link to a thread called "A pro Trump thread to balance the 154 anti Trump threads!"

I think it is valid to talk about Trump on a thread about the war that he started. The Trump war. And what is Trump doing today on his war ? Yup. He is escalating it.

trumpredcard · 20/07/2026 15:25

The US appears to have forgotten history, or maybe this regime is too up its own arse with hubris/religious fervour.

Almost every lesson in military history shows bombing does not push a people into submission. Like the blitz of London or allied forces fire bombing Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo. There are some exceptions, like British gun boat diplomacy to force China to take opium. But the bombing has to be followed up with boots on the ground.

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 15:31

trumpredcard · 20/07/2026 14:35

The same reasoning can be applied by Iran for their Minab dead. Only those defenceless children never had the chance to grow up to be 'heroes'.

Yes the attack on those children was awful. I did a thread on it, regarding the Sky investigation. It's not an either or situation, its all awful and unnecessary.

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 15:33

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 15:17

TDS is it ?

On thread about a war that Trump started.

And "There is no pro Trump thread.", right below a thread link to a thread called "A pro Trump thread to balance the 154 anti Trump threads!"

I think it is valid to talk about Trump on a thread about the war that he started. The Trump war. And what is Trump doing today on his war ? Yup. He is escalating it.

Where is the Pro Trump thread?

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 15:33

trumpredcard · 20/07/2026 15:25

The US appears to have forgotten history, or maybe this regime is too up its own arse with hubris/religious fervour.

Almost every lesson in military history shows bombing does not push a people into submission. Like the blitz of London or allied forces fire bombing Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo. There are some exceptions, like British gun boat diplomacy to force China to take opium. But the bombing has to be followed up with boots on the ground.

The Opium wars were boots on the ground wars. The British boats had guns, but their main thing was to carry the soldiers.

Twiglets1 · 20/07/2026 15:34

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 15:17

TDS is it ?

On thread about a war that Trump started.

And "There is no pro Trump thread.", right below a thread link to a thread called "A pro Trump thread to balance the 154 anti Trump threads!"

I think it is valid to talk about Trump on a thread about the war that he started. The Trump war. And what is Trump doing today on his war ? Yup. He is escalating it.

The "There is no pro Trump thread.", right below a thread link to a thread called "A pro Trump thread to balance the 154 anti Trump threads!" was because I was reading the posts in order and responded to @Ihatetomatoes comment before I saw your comment after hers.

But still - no one on this thread is "pro Trump" so why a thread on another board is being raised I do not know. Unless some of us are just not "anti- Trump" enough in your opinion?

Twiglets1 · 20/07/2026 15:35

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 15:33

Where is the Pro Trump thread?

There's one in Chat apparently. Relevant to this discussion? I wouldn't have thought so.

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 15:35

Twiglets1 · 20/07/2026 15:08

Oh wow, you found one.

Not on the CITME board so your challenge to people on here makes no sense.

In fact, as a challenge for the pro Trump thread, I wonder if any pro Trumpers can name a single thing he has been honest about.

I expect I could think of a few things he has been honest about like his love of McDonalds but really, what's the point?? You should post on that thread if you want to debate it more today.

I missed this post. I'd never seen a pro Trump thread and incorrectly assumed poster meant in was on the CITME board. I don't read every thread on mumsnet 😂 I'm not Pro Trump anyway.

Twiglets1 · 20/07/2026 15:37

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 15:35

I missed this post. I'd never seen a pro Trump thread and incorrectly assumed poster meant in was on the CITME board. I don't read every thread on mumsnet 😂 I'm not Pro Trump anyway.

I gather it's not enough to be "not pro Trump".

You have to be vehemently "anti Trump" on a daily basis to be in the gang.

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 15:39

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 14:36

Here you go. It never got filled, so still some space to post.

There was a lack of positives... somewhat.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5483302-a-pro-trump-thread-to-balance-the-154-anti-trump-threads

So not on these boards then. I work and don't read every single thread on MN. I have nothing positive to say about Trump so a thread somewhere else on MN that is positive towards Trump wouldn't interest me! So what was your point directing people to a Pro Trump thread somewhere else?

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 16:22

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 15:39

So not on these boards then. I work and don't read every single thread on MN. I have nothing positive to say about Trump so a thread somewhere else on MN that is positive towards Trump wouldn't interest me! So what was your point directing people to a Pro Trump thread somewhere else?

It's on Mumsnet. I see a fair few people who post on this thread who post on other threads on MN. It's not a link to a different forum.

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 16:28

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 16:22

It's on Mumsnet. I see a fair few people who post on this thread who post on other threads on MN. It's not a link to a different forum.

So why do you think I should read the pro Trump thread? What's your actual point?

So people post on lots of threads. Your point being what? I haven't seen it and it doesn't interest me if it's Pro Trump. Again, why are you referring me to read it. Doesn't make any sense at all.

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 16:31

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 16:22

It's on Mumsnet. I see a fair few people who post on this thread who post on other threads on MN. It's not a link to a different forum.

"Here you go. It never got filled, so still some space to post."

Why would I want to post something on a Pro Trump thread? You make no sense, so I'll assume that you mistakenly thought I support him. As I've previously said, I don't. 🙄

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 16:32

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 16:28

So why do you think I should read the pro Trump thread? What's your actual point?

So people post on lots of threads. Your point being what? I haven't seen it and it doesn't interest me if it's Pro Trump. Again, why are you referring me to read it. Doesn't make any sense at all.

You asked ?

Ihatetomatoes · Today 21:12
Where is the Pro Trump thread?

I replied with a link to the thread. Because I have posted on it so it's in my history.

I never told anyone they need to read anything.

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 16:40

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 16:31

"Here you go. It never got filled, so still some space to post."

Why would I want to post something on a Pro Trump thread? You make no sense, so I'll assume that you mistakenly thought I support him. As I've previously said, I don't. 🙄

Quote " Why would I want to post something on a Pro Trump thread? You make no sense, so I'll assume that you mistakenly thought I support him. As I've previously said, I don't. "

I posted there to rebut claims made by the pro Trump posters. Is that not normal discourse ?

I also post on a "Trump News Thread", that has an anti Trump lean, to put it mildly. And any pro Trump poster can post there to rebut anything they disagree with.

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 16:41

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 16:32

You asked ?

Ihatetomatoes · Today 21:12
Where is the Pro Trump thread?

I replied with a link to the thread. Because I have posted on it so it's in my history.

I never told anyone they need to read anything.

Ah, I see. It must have been soneone else who mentioned a 'Pro Trump thread' in a response to something, and I replied, 'where is the Pro Trump thread' since I'd never seen one! Most appear very much against Trump. You then went on about the thread. Who originally mentioned the Pro Trump thread...

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 16:46

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 13:42

obsessing

Oh dear. Another wild assumption there. As attempt at an insult even. Look at the feeble minded obsessive.

It is a thread for discussing the US/Iran war of course. What should we be discussing here ? Golf ?

In fact, we can discuss golf here. Because Trump, that guy who tore up the JCPOA, and just recently tore up HIS OWN MOU, that MOU that he appears to have not even wanted to try to honour, is a notorious golf cheat.

That's right. he can't even knock a wee ball about a field with a stick without cheating. In fact, as a challenge for the pro Trump thread, I wonder if any pro Trumpers can name a single thing he has been honest about.

I honestly can't think of anything offhand that he has not embellished, exaggerated, or just flat out lied about. And this is the guy that will somehow solve all.

You originally mentioned the thread here....you said.... "That's right. he can't even knock a wee ball about a field with a stick without cheating. In fact, as a challenge for the pro Trump thread, I wonder if any pro Trumpers can name a single thing he has been honest about.".

So you issued a challenge for the Pro Trump thread (in a completely different section of MN) on a thread in the CITME board 🤔 hence I said where is the Pro Trump thread since I'd never seen it. Might have been better to issue your challenge there. Your comment rather implies you think that Pro Trump individuals are present on this thread or in the CITME board 🤔

The circles, the assumptions.

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 17:09

Ihatetomatoes · 20/07/2026 16:46

You originally mentioned the thread here....you said.... "That's right. he can't even knock a wee ball about a field with a stick without cheating. In fact, as a challenge for the pro Trump thread, I wonder if any pro Trumpers can name a single thing he has been honest about.".

So you issued a challenge for the Pro Trump thread (in a completely different section of MN) on a thread in the CITME board 🤔 hence I said where is the Pro Trump thread since I'd never seen it. Might have been better to issue your challenge there. Your comment rather implies you think that Pro Trump individuals are present on this thread or in the CITME board 🤔

The circles, the assumptions.

That's getting too technical for me. I don't really pidgeon hole things. For me a thread about a war that Trump started overlaps with lots of other threads. I do not seperate Trump cheating at golf from how he is running his war. I actually take his cheating at golf as a measure on how much he can be trusted at war.

This is social media after all, not a court of law. So for me, character witnesses are ok.

And my challange for pro Trumpers was in general. Not aimed at any specific posters.

RedTagAlan · 20/07/2026 17:13

BelleHathor · 20/07/2026 16:36

The Yemeni's have closed the Red Sea to ships carrying Saudi Arabian goods.
https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/yemen-houthis-maritime-embargo-saudi-arabia-oil-rcna588345

Up the escalation ladder we go.....

That does appear to be more of a Saudi /Houthi thing though. Link is blocked for me though. They did have a long war, and it's not really settled. And what with SA bombing a Yemen airport last week.

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