US - Iran Peace agreement Part 2

[JadeHare]

Doesn’t really look like anyone believes that Donald is going to come out of his stupid war with any kind of better deal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/26/trump-us-iran-capitulation/

It did indeed.

Lol. Seems like it's not only Trump who has a minor obsession with the size of planes.

Is Trump giving billions of dollars to Iran?

I thought the money they are getting was from private investment mainly from Middle East countries - and dependent on them fulfilling their side of the deal.

And the unfrozen assets are only for 60 days at the moment - again, this may be extended if Iran carry on fulfilling their side of the deal.

Al Jazerra said Iran say they haven't agreed to inspections.

Hard to know what's going on with the Iran side. Must be so hard negotiating with terrorists. From the BBC:

Iran and the US continued to share conflicting remarks on the nuclear issue on Tuesday.

Iran's foreign ministry spokesman Esmaeil Baqaei said it had no plans to allow inspectors to access nuclear sites bombed by the US and Israel last year.

US President Donald Trump said that despite Iran's "protestations and false statements to the contrary", it had "fully and completely agreed" to inspections.

"If they did not agree to this, there would be no further negotiations!" he posted on social media.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3vy3nr63gxo

.Grossi: IAEA will inspect Iran's nuclear facilities
5 hours ago

The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency says it will conduct inspections of nuclear facilities in Iran.

IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi made the remark in an exclusive interview with NHK in Tokyo on Tuesday.

The United States said Iran agreed to accept IAEA inspectors back into the country, after high-level talks between the US and Iran based on a memorandum of understanding to end their fighting.

Grossi said there will be inspections. He added, "We think that the sooner the better, especially since this agreement has a time frame of 60 days, so we will have to be working without losing much time."

He said the top priority is confirming the location of highly enriched uranium. He noted the IAEA has an idea of where the material could be, but that it is important for Iran to tell the agency the location.

Grossi added that as some storage facilities were attacked and partially destroyed, the agency may need to study how to get to the material.
He indicated the IAEA will soon talk with the Iranian side to decide on the dates and other details of inspections.

Grossi also said the IAEA is an independent organization and will carry out the inspections on its own. But he said that "if Iran wishes to invite the United States or other observers, this is another matter," adding that "we do not foresee that somebody needs to help us or control us."

The IAEA has been unable to conduct inspections in Iran since the US and Israel attacked nuclear sites there in June last year.
Earlier this month, the IAEA Board of Governors adopted a resolution calling on Iran to disclose information on its enriched uranium and accept the agency's inspections.

Worth noting

President Trump said the strikes "completely and totally obliterated" Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities; a final bomb damage assessment of the strikes was still ongoing as of August 2025.

That will come back to bite Trump in the bum if the US seek to inspect.

Iran and Oman have agreed to discussions about the future administration of navigation in the Strait of Hormuz.
In a joint statement, the two countries said a joint working group would be formed to discuss maritime services in the strategic waterway and the costs associated with them.

In the statement, Oman and Iran, which border the strait, reaffirmed their commitment to ensuring safe passage through the waterway in accordance with international law, while underlining sovereignty under their territorial waters.
They also reaffirmed their commitment to the strait being a secure and open route for international navigation and to promoting maritime safety, freedom of navigation and regional stability.

A plan is underway to evacuate 11,000 stranded seafarers through the Strait of Hormuz, the United Nations agency the International Maritime Organisation said.

Maybe not the best thread for it but I share it anyway

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/23/israel-deliberately-targeting-gaza-children-to-commit-genocide-un-inquiry-finds?

From CNN:

Whom to believe?
The answer to that question is usually a pretty easy one — especially when dealing with authoritarian regimes like Iran.

But Trump’s tendency to make wild and false claims makes it more complicated.
This is a president, after all, who suggested more than three dozen timesover more than two months that an Iran deal was right around the corner. He said more than two months ago that Iran had already “agreed to everything” he was demanding — when it clearly hadn’t.
Similarly, Trump and his administration claimed last year’s strikes on Iran’s nuclear sites had “obliterated” its nuclear program. Trump went so far as to say the strikes had also obliterated the “future nuclear capability of Iran.”
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But CNN and others reported that early US intelligence assessments did not back up these claims. And sure enough, eight months later, Trump was launching a war by citing, yet again, the supposedly imminent nuclear threat that Iran posed.

Put plainly: The Trump administration has major credibility problems, too.
And that also applies to the known terms of the current negotiations.
For instance, before the MOU was released last week, Trump was asked if it included “a $300 billion fund funded by Gulf allies.” He said that was “false.” But sure enough, the MOU contains such a reconstruction fund.
Vance and the administration also broadly dismissed claims about the MOU from Iranian media as “propaganda.” A White House spokesman also said a draft version of the MOU published by CNN last week did “not reflect the language of the actual MOU.”

But many of the Iranian claims wound up being echoed in the actual MOU. And the final document was similar to the draft version CNN published, with some language differences.
It’s also worth asking, if some of these concessions to the US side are so ironclad and were able to be agreed to so quickly, why didn’t they appear in the MOU? Why was that document so heavily weighted toward the Iranians?
The Trump administration has suggested that’s because of the delicate politics involved on Iran’s side of the negotiations — and even that there are some secret handshake agreements that weren’t enumerated in the document.
But the politics are delicate in the United States right now, too. And the administration’s just-trust-us approach might not cut it.

Sadly no suprise, but people will still refuse to believe it 😢

I agree with you. Just awful.

Quite frankly I find it hard to believe anything that comes out of Donald’s mouth. He lies, and he lies and he lies.

“President Donald Trump blatantly lied about how much oil is actually travelling through the Strait of Hormuz, amid growing backlash to his peace deal.
In a post on Truth Social Tuesday, Trump bragged that the 19 million barrels of oil that flowed through the strait on Monday constituted “an all time RECORD.”

That’s a complete lie. Before the U.S. attacked Iran, an average of 20 million barrels of oil passed through the strait every day, according to the IAEA—more than Trump’s so-called “all time RECORD.”
Plus, Trump’s numbers don’t seem to add up anyway.
From Saturday to Monday, only 109 vessels passed through the Strait of Hormuz, The New York Times reported, citing Kpler, a global maritime data firm. That’s the largest three-day number since the war began in February—but still less than the nearly 140 ships that once passed through the strait on a daily basis. So, it seems unlikely that 19 million barrels could have passed through it in one day with the strait still facing restrictions.

“This wouldn’t be the first time that Trump pushed phony numbers about oil. Trump previously claimed that he’d directed the military to conduct a “secret mission” to liberate more than 100 million barrels of oil through the essential trade passageway without anybody knowing—including his own energy secretary!
Trump’s latest lies were part of a larger meltdown Tuesday, as Iran denied having made commitments the Trump administration touted as a done deal. ”

Excerpt From
“Trump Now Lying About “Record” Amount of Oil Passing Through Strait”
The New Republic
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@JadeHare the Iran side also lies or in the words of the article "contradicts itself."

Why Iran's Government Is Contradicting Itself
The contradiction between the IRGC military command and Iran's foreign ministry is not an accident or a miscommunication. It is a structural feature of how Iran's system works — and it is the same dynamic that has defined this entire crisis.

The IRGC answers to the Supreme Leader. The foreign ministry answers to the elected government. These are not the same chain of command, and they do not always want the same things.

The IRGC hardliner faction has consistently used military escalation to constrain what the diplomatic track can deliver — firing on ships during ceasefires, laying mines during negotiations, and now declaring a closure that the foreign ministry immediately walked back. The pattern is not chaos. It is institutional competition between two parts of the Iranian state with genuinely different interests.

For the IRGC, control of the strait is the organisation's most powerful strategic asset. Every day the strait is effectively open under US naval coordination — without Iranian permitting authority, without Iranian toll collection, without Iranian institutional oversight — is a day the IRGC's leverage diminishes. The June 20 closure declaration was an attempt to reassert that leverage at the moment it was most visibly slipping.

For the foreign ministry, a collapsed MOU is a diplomatic failure that leaves Iran internationally isolated and economically exposed. Hence the immediate denial.

The Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, has not publicly adjudicated between the two positions. His silence is the most important signal of all — it suggests the internal Iranian debate about how to implement the MOU is not resolved.

hormuzstraitmonitor.com/blog/open-closed-contested-strait-hormuz/

Two Routes, Two Sets of Rules

The key to understanding the current situation is geography. The Strait of Hormuz has two navigable routes — and they are operating under completely different conditions.

The northern route runs through Iranian territorial waters, close to Larak Island. This is the internationally recognised Traffic Separation Scheme — the route that ships used before the war began. It remains closed. The central channel is still mined. Iran's Persian Gulf Strait Authority has published a permitting system for vessels wishing to use the northern route, but the combination of mines, IRGC control, and prohibitive insurance costs makes it effectively unusable for most commercial operators.

The southern route runs through Omani territorial waters and is coordinated by the US Navy's Naval Cooperation and Guidance for Shipping (NCAGS). Iran does not recognise this route as legitimate — it explicitly falls outside the permitting system Iran has created. But ships are using it. Fifty-five did on Saturday. CENTCOM reports traffic is flowing.

The result is a waterway that is simultaneously closed and open, depending on which route you take, which government body in Tehran you ask, and whether your flag state has a relationship with the IRGC that allows northern route passage.

https://hormuzstraitmonitor.com/blog/open-closed-contested-strait-hormuz/

Israel in talks to hand back parts of southern Lebanon

Israel and Lebanon are discussing a pilot scheme where control of some areas in southern Lebanon is handed to the Lebanese Armed Forces.

That's according to Reuters, citing three Israeli officials who told the outlet that the project is backed by the US.

The officials added that Lebanese troops involved in the handover pilot would undergo US training and vetting to ensure they are not linked to Hezbollah, the Iran-backed militia that Israel is fighting.

Israel would maintain a military presence in the buffer zone.

Yes. Iran, run by a terrorist organisation, can’t be trusted. Bound to lie.
The POTUS, should be trusted. Can’t be trusted and has been consistently been caught out on his lies.

Bit worrying.

Equally we all know what Trump is like by now with his exaggerations, hyperbole and even lies. If reminders of this are going to be reiterated repeatedly - despite it’s nothing new - then it’s fair to point out that Trump is not the only one who lies or contradicts himself. Especially as some on here present what Iran say as though it’s entirely factual - only for them to contradict themselves later.

At this point I genuinely feel sorry for the negotiators having to deal with unreasonable people from their own country as well as those on the other side. It seems particularly tricky in Iran because of the different factions.

Trump it the only one doing it via social media.

And Fox News interviews. But re social media, yeah, this 5 hours ago.

Wednesday, June 24, 20262:39 AM Truth Social

So, I have Iran on the "ropes," ready to go down for the fall, willing to give us practically anything, and for the first time in decades, respecting the hell out of the United States and its President, ME, and the U.S. Senate decides to have a poorly timed and meaningless War Powers Act Vote, telling the Number One Sponser of Terror in the World that the United States doesn't like what I am doing to them, and I must stop, and by so doing has provided aid and comfort the Enemy. Four Republican Losers voted with the Dumocrats, and Iran asked my people, "what does that all mean?" These Senators have just made my job more difficult, but I will get it done, one way or the other, because I always get it done! President DJT

He says he has Iran on the ropes willing to give up practically anything.

Makes me wonder if he has actually read his MOU. And did he hear what he said at the G7 ?

They use X?

They all use X, Trump is the one using his personal TS to rant, insult, lie.

You really you can't compare it to anything others post on X

They all do it, but nobody does it like Trump.

Especially as some on here present what Iran say as though it’s entirely factual - only for them to contradict themselves later.

Who has? Better to spell it out so it’s clear to all rather than keep making veiled digs. I’m sure we would all appreciate the honesty.

They all use social media then.