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Conflict in the Middle East

US - Iran Peace agreement Part 2

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JadeHare · 27/05/2026 17:21

Doesn’t really look like anyone believes that Donald is going to come out of his stupid war with any kind of better deal.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/26/trump-us-iran-capitulation/

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2026/05/26/trump-us-iran-capitulation

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RedTagAlan · 27/06/2026 14:55

DrPrunesqualer · 27/06/2026 14:52

Trump wants to make out he’s in charge
he loves to flex 💪
He isn't in charge because for one thing
he ball's everything up
Just like this US attack

US news interestingly, but not surprisingly, aren’t reporting any of that
Wonder how long we’ll have to wait for the truth….a lifetime like the murdered 165 children

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Iran is now doing strikes against US bases because of the US strikes against Iran, and those US strikes were because an Iranian drone, or drone debris, hit a ship that was apparently not following the MOU.

It will never end at this rate.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/06/2026 14:58

RedTagAlan · 27/06/2026 14:55

Iran is now doing strikes against US bases because of the US strikes against Iran, and those US strikes were because an Iranian drone, or drone debris, hit a ship that was apparently not following the MOU.

It will never end at this rate.

Agree

and everyone will blame Iran
Again!

RedTagAlan · 27/06/2026 16:39

DrPrunesqualer · 27/06/2026 14:58

Agree

and everyone will blame Iran
Again!

This in the CNN feed in the last hour :

The Joint Maritime Information Center (JMIC), which is overseen by the US Navy, raised the threat level in the strait to “substantial” on Saturday, a step it said it took following attacks on merchant vessels.

Meanwhile, a route through the Strait of Hormuz near Oman has been expanded to allow for greater passage of marine traffic in both directions, the JMIC said, suggesting the US is pushing back at Iran’s control over the waterway.

So there we go. The MOU says Iran is to do it, but the US ain't doing that. They are doing their own thing.

So what was the point of the MOU ?

I suspect the ship that was hit while apparently not following the rules was doing as instructed by someone with alternative rules.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/06/2026 20:04

RedTagAlan · 27/06/2026 16:39

This in the CNN feed in the last hour :

The Joint Maritime Information Center (JMIC), which is overseen by the US Navy, raised the threat level in the strait to “substantial” on Saturday, a step it said it took following attacks on merchant vessels.

Meanwhile, a route through the Strait of Hormuz near Oman has been expanded to allow for greater passage of marine traffic in both directions, the JMIC said, suggesting the US is pushing back at Iran’s control over the waterway.

So there we go. The MOU says Iran is to do it, but the US ain't doing that. They are doing their own thing.

So what was the point of the MOU ?

I suspect the ship that was hit while apparently not following the rules was doing as instructed by someone with alternative rules.

Agree

How can anyone especially Iran trust the US in anything now

TopPocketFind · 27/06/2026 23:01

CENTCOM: US forces carried out airstrikes in Iran targeting military infrastructure, including surveillance, communications and drone facilities, in response to a drone attack on the commercial tanker M/T Kiku near the Strait of Hormuz.

DrPrunesqualer · 27/06/2026 23:18

TopPocketFind · 27/06/2026 23:01

CENTCOM: US forces carried out airstrikes in Iran targeting military infrastructure, including surveillance, communications and drone facilities, in response to a drone attack on the commercial tanker M/T Kiku near the Strait of Hormuz.

Yep

Then Iran reciprocated with an attack on US facilities in Bahrain ( although so far the US haven't commented )

Meanwhile

‘Israeli air strikes in Lebanon have killed one person, the country's health ministry said, a day after the two countries signed a deal aimed at paving the way to a lasting peace.’
bbc

These ceasefires that aren’t ceasefires but understandings have a very basic flaw
Some sides don’t UNDERSTAND

TopPocketFind · 28/06/2026 00:57

Trump is once agaim threatening Iran

"There may come a point when we are no longer able to be reasonable, and will be forced to militarily complete the job that we very successfully started," the US president also said on his Truth Social platform.
"If that happens, the Islamic Republic of Iran will no longer exist."

JadeHare · 28/06/2026 07:43

Israel remain in Lebanon, and Hezbollah remain armed. The US attacks Iran, so Iran attacks back.

This MOU doesn’t seem to be worth the piece of paper it has been signed on. Actually, maybe the signatures will be worth something on Bargain Hunt in a few years time.

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Twiglets1 · 28/06/2026 09:33

I wouldn't be so quick to discard the MoU. It will be war again in Iran if Trump decides it isn't worth the piece of paper it has been signed on.

The latest report from the BBC states that the US has conducted new strikes on Iran, following a drone attack on a Panama-flagged vessel in the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday.

US Central Command (Centcom) said it hit multiple targets across Iran in direct response to "continued aggression" against commercial shipping.

In retaliation, Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said it has launched missiles and drones at US infrastructure in Kuwait and Bahrain, in a statement shared to state media.

Following the exchange of fire, the US and Iran accused each other of violating the ceasefire agreement.

Shortly after the latest US strikes on Iran were announced, Trump said on Truth Social that it was "very possible" that Tehran would "never learn".

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cdxdwkgqgq0o

TopPocketFind · 28/06/2026 09:45

Indeed, it's not worth much when both sides break it.

rainingsnoring · 28/06/2026 09:46

JadeHare · 28/06/2026 07:43

Israel remain in Lebanon, and Hezbollah remain armed. The US attacks Iran, so Iran attacks back.

This MOU doesn’t seem to be worth the piece of paper it has been signed on. Actually, maybe the signatures will be worth something on Bargain Hunt in a few years time.

Unfortunately, there is going to be a lot more in the way of attacks before this is over. It's possible that the US launches a ground invasion in Iran, although Trump won't be keen to do that before his mid terms are over. The Iranians know that the US are totally untrustworthy so will, no doubt, be acquiring more weapons despite the MOU. The whole thing is a mess. I say again that it should never have been started.

JadeHare · 28/06/2026 09:54

I agree. And the repercussions of this stupid, ill thought out pointless waste of time of a war are so far reaching for so many people who absolutely have no skin in this game. Well done Donald and Bibi.

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TopPocketFind · 28/06/2026 10:04

Willy wagging.

Never mind the consequences for the rest of the world

TopPocketFind · 29/06/2026 10:01

The US and Iran have agreed to "stand down" following an exchange of strikes over the past few days, media reports say citing a US official.

In time for the markets opening.

Twiglets1 · 29/06/2026 11:29

TopPocketFind · 29/06/2026 10:01

The US and Iran have agreed to "stand down" following an exchange of strikes over the past few days, media reports say citing a US official.

In time for the markets opening.

Yes. The official confirmed to the BBC’s US partner CBS News that vessels will now be able to move through the waterway freely and added that renewed talks aimed at ending the war will continue.

DrPrunesqualer · 29/06/2026 11:32

TopPocketFind · 29/06/2026 10:01

The US and Iran have agreed to "stand down" following an exchange of strikes over the past few days, media reports say citing a US official.

In time for the markets opening.

We definitely need to keep an eye on when the US flair things up
re the markets

Someone’s getting even richer me thinks

RedTagAlan · 29/06/2026 11:40

DrPrunesqualer · 29/06/2026 11:32

We definitely need to keep an eye on when the US flair things up
re the markets

Someone’s getting even richer me thinks

Friday afternoon ?

JadeHare · 29/06/2026 11:51

According to the LA times regarding the double tap on the school in Iran:

“Minab matters beyond the horror of the strike itself. If the reporting is accurate, this was not simply the fog of war obscuring a tragic outcome. The U.S. reportedly relied on outdated intelligence. Information that the site appeared to include a school was available but apparently did not reach those responsible for targeting. The administration still has not publicly explained how that happened or who, if anyone, has been held responsible.
Those facts demand answers: Why was the intelligence outdated? Why did information about the school not reach the targeting process? Who, if anyone, has been relieved, disciplined or referred for prosecution? Those questions do not presume criminality. They presume that children killed by the U.S. deserve more than the passive voice of “mistakes are made.””

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Legislators have finally begun to recognize the dangers of unchecked executive force.

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DrPrunesqualer · 30/06/2026 02:12

Not quite on thread but could definitely affect how we get our information

It Seems our Government are determined that we only hear one side of the story
Labours big brother tactics to support Israel

this from the Guardian

UK state threats bill could pull British journalists into terror prosecutions, experts say
Two independent reviewers of terrorism legislation call for safeguards for NGOs and journalists before bill becomes law this week

Pippa Crerar and Aamna Mohdin
Mon 29 Jun 2026 17.20 BST

British foreign correspondents could be at risk of prosecution if they use sources within state-backed groups in countries such as Iran under national security legislation being rushed through parliament this week.

David Anderson, a former UK independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, has warned that unless the bill is amended it could accidentally pull journalists working in danger-zone countries into prosecutions for terrorism.

The new anti-terror powers are designed to allow the UK government to label state-backed groups as terrorist organisations, enabling them to ban groups such as Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).

The legal change, which is expected to complete its final parliamentary stages this week, would also create new criminal offences for people who “support, assist and obtain material benefits” from groups formally listed as state-supported threats.

However, there are concerns that the national security (state threats) bill would in practice go beyond its main aim of targeting proxies, and could end up penalising foreign correspondents as well.

Press freedom groups have expressed concern at the warnings and asked the government to ensure there are safeguards.

The Home Office denied the bill would undermine the work of journalists. The department’s guidance suggests journalists are protected, but Lord Anderson said those protections were not explicit in the bill.
“The bill seems to have been pulled together in a hurry, with mooted safeguards for NGOs and journalists largely absent from its text,” the peer said. “That needs to be put right early this week, before the bill becomes law.”
Under the legislation, material benefits include not just financial benefits but also information. It would be an offence both to “obtain, accept and retain” this material benefit but also to “agree to accept” it – and there is no “reasonable excuse” defence for either.
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RedTagAlan · 30/06/2026 03:31

DrPrunesqualer · 30/06/2026 02:12

Not quite on thread but could definitely affect how we get our information

It Seems our Government are determined that we only hear one side of the story
Labours big brother tactics to support Israel

this from the Guardian

UK state threats bill could pull British journalists into terror prosecutions, experts say
Two independent reviewers of terrorism legislation call for safeguards for NGOs and journalists before bill becomes law this week

Pippa Crerar and Aamna Mohdin
Mon 29 Jun 2026 17.20 BST

British foreign correspondents could be at risk of prosecution if they use sources within state-backed groups in countries such as Iran under national security legislation being rushed through parliament this week.

David Anderson, a former UK independent reviewer of terrorism legislation, has warned that unless the bill is amended it could accidentally pull journalists working in danger-zone countries into prosecutions for terrorism.

The new anti-terror powers are designed to allow the UK government to label state-backed groups as terrorist organisations, enabling them to ban groups such as Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC).

The legal change, which is expected to complete its final parliamentary stages this week, would also create new criminal offences for people who “support, assist and obtain material benefits” from groups formally listed as state-supported threats.

However, there are concerns that the national security (state threats) bill would in practice go beyond its main aim of targeting proxies, and could end up penalising foreign correspondents as well.

Press freedom groups have expressed concern at the warnings and asked the government to ensure there are safeguards.

The Home Office denied the bill would undermine the work of journalists. The department’s guidance suggests journalists are protected, but Lord Anderson said those protections were not explicit in the bill.
“The bill seems to have been pulled together in a hurry, with mooted safeguards for NGOs and journalists largely absent from its text,” the peer said. “That needs to be put right early this week, before the bill becomes law.”
Under the legislation, material benefits include not just financial benefits but also information. It would be an offence both to “obtain, accept and retain” this material benefit but also to “agree to accept” it – and there is no “reasonable excuse” defence for either.
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But I keep seeing posts on other threads about how Labour are pro the Palestine and anti Isreal.

It sort of reminds me of the telly news in the 80's, when so many Irish had their voices dubbed over in tv interviews.

This link is to the government explanatory notes on the bill.

8443 (parliament.uk)

Fair enough if they need this to proscribe the IRGC, but looking through those notes I can see how people could be caught up in it. For the record, I am not familiar with the National Security Act 2023, before anyone accuses me of anything.

Still, at least the UK publishes it. Where I am the State Security laws are.... State Secrets.

Twiglets1 · 30/06/2026 06:25

Great news that the IRGC will shortly be a proscribed terrorist organisation in the UK as well as the EU, Albania, Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Canada, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Israel, Paraguay, Saudi Arabia, Trinidad and Tobago, Ukraine, the United States, Honduras and the Dominican Republic.

JadeHare · 30/06/2026 06:55

You can barely read through the press these days without coming across so many negative news stories uncovering the bullshit lies which Donald has spouted. How depressing that he is the POTUS.

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TopPocketFind · 30/06/2026 09:53

Like doing a celebration dance because the Iran football team didn't get through to the next round

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crr8x5qkly1o

And how the US governent treated the team throughout.

JadeHare · 30/06/2026 09:58

TopPocketFind · 30/06/2026 09:53

Like doing a celebration dance because the Iran football team didn't get through to the next round

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crr8x5qkly1o

And how the US governent treated the team throughout.

It was disgusting. Shame on the US of A.

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JadeHare · 30/06/2026 10:34

From the Washington Post:

“Senior U.S. and Iranian negotiators were set to travel Tuesday to Qatar, nearly two weeks into a 60-day window to negotiate a deal that would limit Iran’s nuclear program. But Iranian hard-liners have balked at making significant concessions, and Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Esmaeil Baqaei said that officials from his country did not plan to meet directly with Americans this week, despite President Donald Trump saying earlier that there was a meeting at Iran’s request.
Trump has made clear that his primary focus for now is on gasoline prices. He has lauded the decline in crude* *oil prices, which has bought him some breathing room since he signed an agreement with his Iranian counterpart earlier this month.”

“At the same time, he has complained that gas prices haven’t followed suit.
“Oil prices are way down. We hit $69 today. It was higher than that prior to the denuclearization of Iran fight that we had, which we’re doing very well,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office on Monday. “The meeting in Doha is going to be perhaps important, perhaps not,” he added.
Later in the day, however, he complained angrily about gasoline, which currently averages close to $3.90 per gallon.
“Gasoline Retailers must get their Prices down, IMMEDIATELY! They’re too high considering that Oil is now at $68 a Barrel, and heading south,” he wrote on his Truth Social site. “If Retailers don’t do this, big problems lie ahead! Start targeting around the $2.50 a Gallon number,” he wrote.”

“With oil markets continuing to be top of mind, Trump has signaled he is willing to let negotiations play out. But the central challenge facing the U.S. team remains unchanged: Though battered by weeks of intense U.S. and Israeli airstrikes, Iran emerged from the war with new leverage and little obvious incentive to give it up.
Rather than engaging deeply on major limits to its nuclear program, Tehran has focused on the prize it won as a result of the months of conflict: its ability to control shipping traffic through Hormuz, once a theoretical threat but now a demonstrated power. It has been able to close the waterway cheaply, using mines and low-cost drones against tanker traffic that carries 20 percent of the world’s oil.”

“With Iranian hard-liners signaling little willingness to eliminate their stockpile of highly enriched uranium or accept other major U.S. demands, many diplomats and analysts were skeptical a deal could be reached within the 60-day window — or anytime soon.
And Iran has shown that it can more easily close the strait than the U.S. military can keep it open, according to diplomats watching the dynamic.”

Excerpt From
“Iran’s leverage over Strait of Hormuz snarls Trump’s push for a deal”
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Iran’s leverage over Strait of Hormuz snarls Trump’s push for a deal — The Washington Post

The U.S. president is set on bringing gas prices down and reaching a nuclear deal, but Iran has little incentive to cede its newfound power to control shipping traffic.

https://apple.news/A-2C6yYhsTHu4ObJqmVI1hw

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